Posted on 09/09/2022 9:23:51 PM PDT by TBP
“I never forget a face”. Yes, he had a pretty good memory as well as intelligence to remember a face he’d never seen before.
That was actually in the original theatrical version. But for some reason it was removed from the DVD version. Khan’s final expression was of astonished disappointment just before the Genesis device went overload.
The starship Reliant is on a mission to find a lifeless planet to test a scientific device for the Federation called the Genesis Device, which was developed for the Federation by a civilian scientific team led by Dr. Carol Marcus, one of Kirk’s former lovers, and her son David. It is designed to reorganize dead matter into habitable worlds
Ah, liberalism in endless quest to meddle in everything and engage in world saving schemes no one but them would want or wish to piss resources away on.
will a SF be made showing the consequences of endless meddling, world saving egotiam, know it all arrogance
and smug all knowing liberal assurance, maybe it could be named Iraqi Freedom 2- the Endless Pain in the Ass.
Certainly a film in which I would sincerely support Mr. Khan in his revenge on the multi gobalist plague.
Also if Kirk met Kamala Harris, do you think he would woo her?
Kirk liked intelligence in his women, even the green lady on Star Trek was smarter than Kamala.
Heck, I thought the way he pulled off the Melville quote toward the end, knowing his fate, but defiant to the end, was fabulous.
Oh, he had superior intelligence, but had gone insane...
“Revenge and the Price of Holding a Grudge”
Revenge and holding a grudge are two staples of Italian culture.
In the movie Red Dragon with Anthony Hopkins, the guy who caught him said it wasn’t because Hannibal Lecter was less intelligent, but because he had disadvantages. He was insane.
Never realized how much lib world saving globolist baloney was implanted in sci-fi. The UN into space on steroids. That is why I really do enjoy the HALO series. The aliens are a hell of a lot more impressive than the terrans and they do seem to have a superior albeit really weird culture, They terrans about as we regard termites or lice. No liberal sentimentality here. Wish there were as many HALO feature movies there are the tiresome wordy, liberal moralizing, Wilsonian bullshit Star Trek films.
I disagree. In Space Seed, Kirk showed him in sickbay how to use the computer to study the schematics of the Enterprise. Who’s to say he didn’t look at the bridge officers dossiers. That’s always been my answer to why he recognized Chekov in the movie.
In the original "Space Seed" episode, both Kirk and Spock recognized the flaw in the genetic engineering: "Superior ability breeds superior ambition"... and an extra helping of pride and arrogance came along with it too, apparently. Plus, after fifteen years of hardship, Khan was consumed by his obsession and desire for vengeance. In the end, all of the eugenics tinkering couldn't save Khan from the same weaknesses that plague all of humanity. Finally, there was a story to be told; if Ahab hadn't pursued the whale, it would've been a short book.
“Technical manuals” is all the show said he read, but it’s only a minor issue anyway. Walter and Ricardo had no scenes in that episode because Walter was not yet part of the cast. But no one can definitively say that Chekov wasn’t yet part of the Enterprise crew apart from the bridge, or that he and Khan had never met.
They thought they were superior to everyone else, and acted like nobody could stand in their way to take whatever they wanted. They felt they deserved whatever they wanted, and were free to take it. Their blind spot was believing they couldn't be stopped, despite Earth stopping them in the first place.
-PJ
Yes, arrogance and vindictiveness can lead one to make mistakes, but Khan’s mistakes were particularly stupid ones in my opinion for someone supposedly possessing super intelligent.
Fair enough!
I didn’t think they were caught and forced onto the Botany Bay. I thought when Kirk asked him what his mission was, Khan said a new life meaning they deliberately left Earth by themselves. Spock later tells Kirk some where unaccounted for meaning Khan and his crew.
Now, I am bummed I missed it.
The vindictive people I have known have invested a fair amount of their energy and intellect into being vindictive. Harming, undermining, frustrating those who have opposed them and pissed them off is a major satisfying part of their life. Some times it is constant bad mouthing or slandering people behind their backs just to undermine them or for the sheer unadulterated fun of knowing what you are doing to someone who has crossed you or defeated you in some way. I know of a hs football coach that spent literally several decades plotting and scheming to harm other coaches whose teams had beaten his in important games. This went on in one case after the man had left athletics. The coach through a relative in a neighboring police department had an essential fake criminal case pushed so that the other party became a near pariah in his own town even though the criminal complaint never went beyond an ‘investigation’ by his relative.. The coach eventually retired to Daytona and apparently loved to regale buddies at the legion hall with the tale of the vindictive campaign that lasted over two decades. These people exist and they revel in their vindictiveness.
Montalban's screentime was indeed shorter than one at first perceives. This is due to the so-called "Mr. Wong Effect," as enunciated by Orson Welles.
If, in a play, all of the main and side characters are "obsessed" with an as-yet unseen yet somehow important character (named "Mr. Wong"), when the Mr. Wong finally does appear for a brief scene in the final act, thus "solving the mystery" or "triggering the climax," all of the theatre-goers will later comment, "Oh, I especially liked the role of Mr. Wong!"
Welles himself used this to good effect in "The Third Man."
Regards,
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