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Analyst: US support for Ukraine may have to last "decades"
HotAir ^ | October 5, 2022 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/05/2022 4:54:10 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: Trump20162020

Ukraine announces $750 billion ‘recovery plan’

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-announced-750-billion-recovery-plan-russia-hones-donetsk

That’s just as of today…


41 posted on 10/05/2022 7:09:04 PM PDT by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: sport

Hi Sport.

Russia will never have a Soros friendly goverment.
I believe they’ve really po’d the Ukrainians in DC.

That would be funny if these Ukrainian lunatics werent threatening to use nukes.

Dangerous times for sure.

Take care.


42 posted on 10/05/2022 7:50:55 PM PDT by katie didit
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I hope that they do not not.


43 posted on 10/05/2022 9:05:28 PM PDT by sport
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Someone asked a CNN Host why Biden is sending all this money to Ukraine when people here are suffering, including the Hurricane victims.

The CNN personality said - we have money to do it all.

That’s the new US Economic policy.

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44 posted on 10/05/2022 9:13:53 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: Trump20162020

WOW, Biden has found a new slush fund.

The man is a genius.


45 posted on 10/05/2022 9:19:49 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Huskrrrr

TA DA!!!

Even the local barbers have dirt on them! Now, it’s pay or get outed. To cover their butts, the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and other agencies have been corrupted to a criminal degree. The criminal racketeers will be lucky if only ONLY the BIDENS are hanged!


46 posted on 10/05/2022 10:49:19 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World!)
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To: EEGator
How Soviet - was your schooling, if you don't even understand something as basic as ownership? If you live under any normal form of capitalism you should be familiar with the concept. It doesn't matter if they had the power to launch or not, it is a simple matter of OWNERSHIP - the bases, the launch equipment, the transport equipment etc. AND the warheads were the property of the UNION of Soviet Socialist Republics, and were installed in several Soviet Socialist Republics.

Russia inherited the kit left in the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, Ukraine inherited the kit left in the Ukrainian SSR. Here's an analogy which might help you to see how the fundamentals of property ownership applied.

Whenever I have workmen doing major renovations on my property I tend to have to sign something when the job's complete. It's not unusual at all for that wrap-up to involve some confirmation (sometimes even me signing a bit of paper) to the effect of, everything left behind once they depart is waste for me to dispose of

Every now and again, I'll get a call a few days later from a contractor to the effect of, "I think I left some of my tools in your garage". Thing is, whatever you think morally about it, if he had me sign a bit of paper saying that I get the job of disposing of everything he left behind, he's made his "tools" my my "waste" to get rid of. So it's my property. He can't just walk into my garage and take those tools back; he has to ask me if I'll be so kind as to hand them back. Because I'm a nice guy I will give him his tools back, but the letter of the law says he and I both signed paperwork to the effect of, whatever he leaves behind is mine therefore it is my decision not his.

So if he had done a particularly poor job, I could refuse to return them unless he redid the unsatisfactory work. All kinds of scenarios play out but the main thing is, it's up to me if he gets his tools back, because legally they're not his and it's not up to him. The only real complication I'd have is if the tools were on a hire purchase contract.

That's what happened with the nukes in the independent states.

This article by no means is on Ukraine's side, but it goes pretty thoroughly through the reasons why some in America wanted Ukraine to hang onto the nukes and become an independent superpower, while others lobbied Ukraine to hand them over to Russia.

https://nucleardiner.wordpress.com/2022/02/06/could-ukraine-have-retained-soviet-nuclear-weapons/

The article confirms Ukraine didn't have the means to use the nukes but it did have technical ownership of them. It could've done what Khazakstan and Belarus did, but instead it decided to return the nukes SIMPLY IN RETURN FOR RUSSIA SIGNING A NON-AGGRESSION TREATY WITNESSED BY USA AND UK. That decision didn't just benefit Russia as well as Ukraine, it put the "brotherly love" between the former SSRs into writing. And that choice is the only thing that kept Putin's foot on the brake pedal for so long... Without the Budapest Memorandum Ukraine would've been Groznyfied as soon as Putin thought they were ready to be absorbed into his fascist empire. What changed? COVID, and America booking it out of Kabul. If there ever was a time to commit a treaty violation that'd drag the USA and UK into a regional dispute, it was after Biden ballsed up Afghanistan.

47 posted on 10/06/2022 1:23:16 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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Winter is coming and will be rough for both sides. Ukraines shorter supply lines plus US help will stall any Russian advance. Come spring, a peace treaty will be forced on both sides by the US and EU.


48 posted on 10/06/2022 3:19:18 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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🤔


49 posted on 10/15/2022 2:50:57 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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