Posted on 01/15/2023 11:49:19 AM PST by Rusty0604
And the NRA is where?
I’m still getting funding snail mail from them. Loyal opposition.
Yep. Good thing the courts stepped up to protect gun owners from Trump’s executive overreach.
I guessed I missed the gun ban part of his MAGA platform.
“Bumpstock ban has been overruled. They are now legal.”
Only if you live in 5th Circuit state: Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas. 6th, 10th, and DC have upheld it, so until the Supreme Court decides to give final word, legality depends on location (which is absurd).
Good question. I entered the search terms "nra position on pistol braces" into duckduckgo and found articles of the NRA, along with the NSSF, condemning the ATFs changing stance on pistol braces, from two years ago.
Here's a good and very recent article.
See? That wasn't very hard.
"GOA CONDEMNS BIDEN RULE TO CRIMINALIZE PISTOL BRACED FIREARMS"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Does GOA not understand that, even if the states had given the feds the specific power to make peacetime restrictive, non-militia-related gun laws, Biden can only sign or veto a legislative branch bill to criminalize certain firearms?
In other words, it's never the job of non-popularly-elected bureaucrats running constitutionally undefined, so-called federal regulatory agencies to make such rules, ATF in this example.
Also, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to make peacetime penal laws — not even for murder!
"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union [emphases added]. The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day.” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)
It remains that not only have the states never expressly constitutionally given the federal government the specific power to make peacetime restrictive gun laws, but the Supreme Court had clarified in United States versus Cruikshank that the 2nd Amendment (2A) was made for the main purpose of dealing with the untrusted federal government when Congress becomes the enemy!
"The second and tenth counts are equally defective. The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress [emphasis added]. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States." —United States v. Cruikshank, 1875.
How does Congress infringe our 2A gun rights if not by making constitutionally indefensible peacetime restrictive gun laws?
Patriots need to use this Biden Administraton attack on 2A protections to identify lawmaking RINOs who are not speaking up about this problem so that patriots can primary them in 2024.
A lot of legislators are lawyers, with at least a passing acquaintance with the Constitution, and what the courts will bounce. There are things they won’t even try to fob off on the public. Rules are a work-around, initiating lawfare which can last years. Initiative petitions in the States are the same.
Exactly, thanks.
welcome. This corrupt regime is pulling off so much on the American people it’s hard to keep up with them.
I don’t really know that much about it. All I own is a 38 special and a regular 22 rifle. But I do know the government wants to chip away at our 2A rights so any new “rules” need to fought.
Without the 2A we won’t keep the 1A, or what’s left of it.
I’m a lifetime member of both organizations and I’ve supported the JPFO on occasion. NRA is well known as being the loyal opposition.
A search on “NRA vs GOA” produces lots of links.
https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/top-5-gun-rights-organizations-nra/
See? That wasn’t too hard either.
Isn’t this just a piece of plastic that is slid on to the rear of the gun? Is it illegal only if it is attached to the gun?
Thank you very much for that post. The federal government has just grabbed so much power in every part of our lives, without the constitutional or God given right to do so.
Scary looking, huh? 🤯
If you have about 15 minutes Ian McCollum over at Forgotten Weapons covers this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE0naVApPU
I don’t understand how they make a piece of plastic illegal.
Ditto
Crazy, huh?
NRA, GOA, JPFO are all good organizations, and like you, I have contributed to all and still do. We face many threats on many fronts in the never-ending battle to preserve our liberties. It's good to have a variety of organizations in the fight, with their different approaches, strengths and weaknesses. Warts and all, the NRA is the 1200-lb gorilla. As for being "the loyal opposition", who's saying that, besides the folks at the GOA?
All this worthless infighting only strengthens and emboldens the enemy.
And you quoted an article that was two years old. If they are the 1200lb gorilla then I would expect them to do something in two years. Personally, I consider the current NRA to be the RINOs of the gun lobby. Perhaps with better leadership they would be a more formidable lobbying organization. Remember the days when “My president is Charlton Heston”?
“From my cold dead hands”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
That’s the NRA of old.
Anyway, agreed on the infighting. There’s too much of that ongoing here. Circular firing squad. Between EVs and Ukraine, this place is often a charlie foxtrot. A lot of us (including myself) are full of piss and vinegar and looking for somewhere to blow off steam. I’m seeing that ongoing throughout society.
That's fine as far as Cruikshank goes, but SCOTUS has since made it clear that the states cannot violate the 2A either. Now, they need to address the meaning of "shall not be infringed".
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