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Baltimore: 23 Schools Have Zero Students Who Can Do Math at Grade Level
Legal Insurrection ^ | 12 Feb 2023 | Mike LaChance

Posted on 02/13/2023 5:50:26 AM PST by Rummyfan

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You expect kids to learn a ytbi g but crt, deviant sexual practices and gender theory and lgbtq crap. Well then, no participation trophy for you. Asking kids to learn life skills like math is just racist!


61 posted on 02/13/2023 7:31:36 AM PST by Bob434
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To: telescope115

> The reasons for it were many, but like you say, the school district on the one hand, and the lack of competent parenting on the other. <

I might get in a bit of trouble with my fellow teachers for saying this, but I do not put parents in my top reasons for the failure of schools.

Schools have kids for a huge chunk of the day. That’s a lot of time to teach core values and self-discipline. But it’s simply not being done. School administrators have abandoned their responsibilities. Some are too woke. Some don’t want to take any career risks. And some are just lazy.

And then there are the state legislatures. They pass laws that make it difficult to keep schools orderly. For example, in my state a special ed student cannot be suspended more than ten times in a school year. So those ten days are kept in reserve for serious crimes (like assault or having a weapon). Anything less and the student can run wild.

So yes, I would have liked more parent support when I was teaching. But that wasn’t my main problem.


62 posted on 02/13/2023 7:35:46 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Rummyfan
“We’re not living up to our potential…”

Unfortunately. I think there is a pretty good chance you are.

63 posted on 02/13/2023 7:37:49 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: telescope115

“It doesn’t matter what color or ethnicity we are, our brains are the SAME”

Had black neighbors on one side that she was originally from N.C., he was originally from the Miami FL. Area.
Not married of course she had a daughter from a previous marriage that ended up having a child out of wedlock.
They really didn’t seem to know how to be homeowners, never taking care of the yard and the HOA was always sending them letters.
Eventually the house ended up in foreclosure and they moved out.
A flipper Bought the house and in the process of rehabbing it he told me it was without a doubt the worst house he’d ever bought. I took a peek inside and sure enough it was pretty trashed.
How do you lose a kitchen drawer????? I’m still trying to figure that one out.

Conversely one the OTHER side of me is also a black family, however having emigrated from Ghana west Africa, the mother and father are married and both are professionals in the medical field. The oldest daughter followed in their footsteps and graduated from nursing school. The oldest son graduated from a local university and now works in the cyber security field.
The youngest son is doing well in public high school.

The contrast between a family originally from here and one that emigrated to here was a real study in lazy entitlement mentality versus one that is actually willing to work for the American dream.

Just goes to show how spoiled some US born minorities can be.


64 posted on 02/13/2023 7:51:22 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Trumpet 1

The student body at the schools served by Baltimore City Public Schools is 7.5% White, 75.7% Black, 0.8% Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander, 14.2% Hispanic/Latino, 0.2% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.1% Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.


65 posted on 02/13/2023 8:21:16 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Salman

>>I’d like to see the math proficiency scores of the teachers.

And there you’ve identified the problem with one short sentence.

When I was young and bored I took my first master’s degree in education with a program for one year and $1,000. Ended up taking longer since I asked them to let me write a thesis instead of taking the exam. Sigh. But I went from University of Chicago to a teacher’s college and came out of the program with very mixed emotions. First, I finally saw what happens when you get teachers who specialize in teaching rather than research. At U of C, I had a Nobel prize winning professor for whom my husband’s ADVISOR! had signed a petition way back when to suggest he spend his time ONLY doing research. Some of these teaching profs could have taught that man a thing or two.

But some of the others! I’d never seen teachers so dictatorial before EVER! They taught one technique and one only. It took a while (I was young) before I realized that they didn’t know enough to allow their students to deviate in the least. They’d obtained the limit of their competence and couldn’t discuss issues or, to my young mind, even think clearly.

At Chicago, I’d never questioned the knowledge of a teacher. The issue was whether they had the skill to pass it on. Here I found that it was a rare teacher whose knowledge could be respected.

And the students. They were lovely. Not the best and the brightest, but the sweetest and most into cooperation that I’d ever met. No one fought for grades. If you didn’t show up, everyone was there to worry about you and to support showing you what you missed. Again, jaw-dropping after Chicago.

So I did come out of teacher’s college with a respect for teachers, but doubts about what they’d learned.

Then I became best friends with a teacher from one of the great inner city NYC schools. The kind protected by her students when she was in their neighborhood. The kind who taught them Shakespeare and made them want to understand. From a school that made the students pass exams to get in.

Over the years I watched her grading papers at home and watched as her standards, set by her superiors, degraded and let more and more errors pass by. As her grading was controlled and more poor students were made to feel good about themselves, but not to realistically understand what they knew and what they didn’t know.

And this woman was the best of the best!

Today, her standards are just a memory. If the students who graduated without knowing what standards were were slotted into teaching colleges as both teachers and as students, then they would end up trained by the rigid techniques of teachers who didn’t understand themselves, and passed with the same limited requirements that they would then pass on to their students.

So where do we go from here? Where do we get that first class of teaching school teachers who know what to teach and how to teach?

Well, if conservatives were in charge and were willing to challenge the teacher’s unions, we might get them from universities with a mixture of heavy testing requirements and heavy - and temporary - government grants, along with a program of inspiring idealist goals like the Peace Corps of our youth. Yes, that was a birthplace of much liberalism, but couldn’t those same techniques produce a birthplace of much conservatism?

So you end up with battle royals in red states at a time when conservatives have the White House. You lose maybe 3 years of students while the battles go on. A loss we now understand thru the covid period. But we get a group of teachers of teachers that won’t pass thru every teacher, but will pass thru a core to spread. To spread, that is, until the White House once again goes liberal and stops the experiment.

But at least we’d have a core of good teachers for when conservatives can restart the fight and the experiment.


66 posted on 02/13/2023 8:29:12 AM PST by mairdie (Grandfather Jack Bell - miner, reporter, lawman, naturalist - https://youtu.be/Dnnb63UEk9c)
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To: Rummyfan

It’s the textbooks.

“Jimmy sells three tabs of fentanyl at $200 a tab. How many people does Jimmy kill?”


67 posted on 02/13/2023 9:32:15 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Rummyfan

At least the students don’t be actin’ white.


68 posted on 02/13/2023 10:22:16 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Leaning Right

Great insight and I agree with every word. Thanks.


69 posted on 02/13/2023 12:59:33 PM PST by animal172 (This ain't the country I grew up in.)
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To: eyeamok
This problem can be fixed overnight by making it a Felony for ANY Public Employee to send their children to any school other than the Public School in their neighborhood.

If the employee does not live IN Baltimore, this proposal does not solve the problem. And the teachers AND administrators should have their children in the same school the teacher draws a paycheck from.

70 posted on 02/13/2023 2:55:45 PM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: EEGator

I like that, nomsayin’!


71 posted on 02/15/2023 11:56:24 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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