Posted on 03/16/2023 11:01:40 AM PDT by jacknhoo
Russia has 312 ICBMs with 1,032 warheads ready to launch and 112 SIBMs with 400 warheads ready to launch. And that was back in 2012.
That’s not “tiny tactical nukes.” And, they’re of course well maintained, just like ours are.
Sniffer will shoot his toe off.
The NORKS can always get the required info from the Biden cartel plus a 10% service charge for the big guy.
To which I replied "I respectfully disagree", which I meant by the way of disagreeing but with an attitude that I'm on a forum with a fellow FReeper who usually sees things like I do.
I then pointed out that the basis of your statement was a study that was limited to only ground-based interceptors. An unrealistic limitation when trying to answer the question of if we can knock out an ICBM from NK (again, the context of the article). What next, they say, "Yeah, but can we do it with only a slingshot? If not then it's all crap."
I then pointed to recent tests of knocking out an ICBM from a sea based platform, including hitting the ICBM near apogee (impressive if you keep up with missile defense R&D like tech geeks born and raised a couple of hours from Huntsville, AL where much of this is designed). There was a time when I thought hitting it at apogee was impossible (typed in my best MIT dean voice from the 1980's when it seemed like every egg head at MIT went around saying not to do SDI, because "you can't hit a bullet with a bullet" LOL). This successful test basically is against ICBM's more advanced than what NK has (again, context of the article is about NK).
So could we intercept a test launch from NK? Yes if we have an interceptor capable boat in the area, and possible yes if we have an interceptor launched from an area their missile flew over (i.e. if flying over Japan).
Can we stop the split warheads the Russians made lately? Nope, not all of them. Nor can we stop the supersonic ones China has that can fly barely over sea level (basically our ships are defenseless against those right now). Nor could we stop all of the conventional ones Russia has if they launched all of them at us at once. For Russia and China our primary missile defense is still MAD.
But we can stop what NK has. And we can stop most incoming tactical nukes (small scale) even from Russia if directed at a military position that has interceptors. I don't know if they're equally as capable at stopping ours.
IMHO what we have is not only impressive work done by the Huntsville geeks, but also effective defenses against all but the full assaults from Russia and China. IMHO, that means our missile defense program isn't wasted money, it brings us real valuable defense that shouldn't be so casually discarded.
Will Joe Biden Shoot It Down?
NO Biden thinks ICBM means In Coming Big Money.
Shoot it down? With what? The Dems and faux-Republicans over the last several decades have prevented us from having any kind of ABM system that could actually protect us...and have also made any kind of national shelter system impossible with their arrogance and condescending ridicule of the concept. They’ve left us completely unprepared to face a purposeful EMP attack or a solar storm like the Carrington Event that would destroy our civilization and kill hundreds of millions.
Imagine if the Norks put a nuclear warhead on the missile and detonated in in some very remote part of the south Pacific. Even if we had the shoot down capacity, old Joe wouldn’t be awake from his nap to make the decision.
No US missile defense system is proven capable against ‘realistic’ ICBM threats.
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Nothing to worry about because no capable missile defense system is needed against ICBM threats, realistic or otherwise!
Of course if there was an actual missile ATTACK, then it would be a different matter!
Look how long it took to make a decision on a slow-moving balloon. With this administration, nothing is getting shot down before they gauge the sentiment on social media and their focus groups.
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IMHO there can be no better reason than that to get every damn Democrat and RINO out of D.C., and re-elect President Trump for the third consecutive time!
“N. Korea has yet to prove a guidance system or a re-entry system.”
You are a hard man to convince. I didn’t try to prove they are using the targeting capacity, just that they had it. Did you read past this in the article I quoted:
“After failed satellite launches in 1992, 1995, and 1996, China has reported 28 consecutive, successful commercial and government/military space launches.”
This was right after Loral, Hughes, Boeing, and Clinton handed the re-entry system to China where it bounced past them to N. Korea.
Korea has not fired a single missile with intent to attack a country...yet. But with the proven success of the test firings, and the missiles they are using, the largest, the Hwasong series 12, 14, 15, and 17, it is admitted by the US, to include Japan, that the 17 has the range to hit New York. The 12, Guam.
I also spent a good bit of time in the business between active military (DP) retirement, NAF, and DOD with my last few years in a job being a 35L researcher in terrorist weapons and tactics. (Over 38 years) North Korea has all the tools now with knockoff Russian missiles they have built and successfully tested, and the MRV. But to say they can’t because they haven’t had an excuse to or are willing to take the gamble at this point, is denying it is possible for the wrong reason.
The Germans invented the plans for the atom bomb. But we used it. Does that mean they didn’t have it? Same theory.
wy69
“Given to them by the 1990s version of Julius Rosenberg.”
Funny thing is, to show people just how far we’ve advanced, the fine handed to Clinton for his part in the passing, he and Hilly got themselves a begging like site on the internet to cover his fine which was equivalent to Loral and Hughes. He’s a scab isn’t he.
wy69
Biden probably has his shotgun ready ... no doubt he will use 00 buckshot.
What a shame. I'm sad.
I say he would have it shot at after it overshot the whole country.
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