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Self-Defense or Vigilantism? The Controversial Case of a Homeowner Confronting a Burglar
Red State ^ | 06/30/2023 | Jeff Charles

Posted on 06/30/2023 9:17:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

...so he should have shot him in the garage?


21 posted on 07/01/2023 4:44:08 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: The Sentient Sheep

When they invade your home/property, they become fair game - I think it it was me, I would have shot him when he “lunged at me with the drill in his hand”....

If it was food, that may be different....


22 posted on 07/01/2023 4:46:40 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you need to fire a warning shots but they are illegal in your state, just remember to say “oops!” afterwards.


23 posted on 07/01/2023 5:32:38 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: hoosierham

“Your stuff was purchased with a portion of your life.”

I make that very same point often.

L


24 posted on 07/01/2023 5:39:44 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind; cpdiii; The Sentient Sheep

cpdiii “,,,killing a man or woman over property is not worth it.”

The Sentient Sheep “You do not shoot people for talking your stuff.”

Shooting someone over property seems to be generally frowned upon legally and socially, but there’s more to it than an offense against the property owner.

Ownership of property is part of the foundation of civilized society and property offenses are not just an offense against the property owner but an attack on the foundations of civilized society.


25 posted on 07/01/2023 6:06:46 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: The Sentient Sheep

that stuff represents your life. thieves are stealing part of your life... a car... 20,000 dollars of your life to replace, tools 3500 of your life to replace...


26 posted on 07/01/2023 7:34:44 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: The Sentient Sheep
You do not shoot people for talking your stuff. you shoot people trying to take your life or the life of loved ones and the life of people around you.

So what should he have done if the guy had just continued to load up all his $1000's of tools into the pickup, as well as his lawn motor, standby generator, and his son's motorbike?

Just watch and wave goodbye? And then wait for the police to show up in an hour or so?

27 posted on 07/01/2023 3:14:10 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: The Sentient Sheep
You do not shoot people for talking your stuff. you shoot people trying to take your life or the life of loved ones and the life of people around you.

Your property was earned with hours of your life. I would agree that property representing negligible value is not worth using force, but when a steady stream of thefts effectively makes you the slave of the thieves, when a significant part of your life goes to recovering from what they take of your life, then I can understand taking action.

28 posted on 07/01/2023 3:20:40 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: .44 Special

Disturbing a crime scene is a sure-fire way of being convicted. Police forensic people are trained to spot such things.


29 posted on 07/01/2023 3:22:49 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

When thief lunges toward owner thief is putting owner in fear for life so shoot thief dead.


30 posted on 07/01/2023 5:08:01 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: The Sentient Sheep

If they are taking my “stuff” they are taking my life.

I worked hard long hours, days, years for my property (stuff), if your stealing it you are stealing my life!

If I catch you stealing my “stuff”, you are stealing my life’s work and I will shoot you deader than a well hung ham!

And just as an afterthought, it’s the only way CRIMINALS LEARN!


31 posted on 07/01/2023 10:31:45 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: metmom

YUP; they get lots of control, BUT WE NEVER GET THE SAFETY!


32 posted on 07/01/2023 10:33:49 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: teeman8r

$3500 for tools? You must not have many. I’m easily four times that.


33 posted on 07/02/2023 5:53:22 PM PDT by jy8z (Everything you think, do and say is from the pill you took today.)
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To: jy8z

You do too much.


34 posted on 07/03/2023 5:52:25 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: SauronOfMordor

“I was checking him for signs of life.”


35 posted on 07/03/2023 6:00:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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