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Hersh: Antony Blinken “Figured Out US Will Not Win War” After CIA Told Him “Ukraine Offense Not Going to Work”
Gateway Pundit ^ | Aug. 20, 2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 08/20/2023 8:52:40 AM PDT by Kazan

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To: dfwgator

U.S.


21 posted on 08/20/2023 9:31:34 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: canuck_conservative

if the Russians could have taken Ukraine they would have by now

Yep, so they dig in and let Ukraine destroy themselves trying to dig them out. Ukraine can’t win militarily. They need NATO (meaning us and maybe a token European force) to go in and do it for them.


22 posted on 08/20/2023 9:34:37 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: NWFree

Peace sells, but who’s buying?


23 posted on 08/20/2023 9:41:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: canuck_conservative
"if the Russians could have taken Ukraine they would have by now"

Has anyone stopped to think that Russia (and China) are enjoying watching the U.S. bankrupt itself by sending billions of dollars, and military equipment to a war that Ukraine will never win? Hitler thought he could defeat Russia, but we all know how that ended up. Germany became dependent on Russia for the oil they had invaded Russia for in 1941.

Russia and China have been strange bedfellows for decades, We were fighting proxy wars with them in Korea. And it hasn't ended since.

24 posted on 08/20/2023 9:44:00 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Kazan
How many billions were given to the arms makers at taxpayer's great expense so those in this administration could satisfy their delusions of grandeur.

Sullivan “planned it to be Biden’s equivalent of (President Woodrow) Wilson’s Versailles. The grand alliance of the free world meeting in a victory celebration after the humiliating defeat of the hated foe to determine the shape of nations for the next generation. Fame and Glory. Promotion and re-election. The jewel in the crown was to be Zelensky’s achievement of Putin’s unconditional surrender after the lightning spring offensive. They were even planning a Nuremberg type trial at the world court, with Jake as our representative. Just one more fuck-up, but who is counting?”

Another reason why Trump was such a great POTUS - he already achieved a pinnacle as a real estate developer - his ego was already satisfied. He became POTUS to solve problems.

25 posted on 08/20/2023 9:47:02 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Kazan

Neocons are Nazi, period.


26 posted on 08/20/2023 9:47:03 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (irr)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"If Ukraine even wants to survive, they’re going to need to find better allies than the grifting Joe Biden fascists."

Plenty Republicans in Congress following lock-step with Biden on Ukraine. They all need to go, but they never will, because stupid people will keep voting for them, just to keep the seat Republican.

27 posted on 08/20/2023 9:47:25 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

I consider almost all elected Republicans in the class named “grifting Joe Biden fascists”.


28 posted on 08/20/2023 9:49:19 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"I consider almost all elected Republicans in the class named “grifting Joe Biden fascists”."

And you're very wise to.

29 posted on 08/20/2023 9:53:06 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Kazan

Knowing how stupid and compromised Biden is, Putin has been waging a war of attrition to bleed the US dry and further divide and weaken us...and guess what? It’s working.


30 posted on 08/20/2023 9:55:19 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: canuck_conservative
You're clueless. The Russians are grinding Ukrainian into dust. The Ukrainians are sending their entire army into the meat grinder. Once the Ukrainian military is completely depleted, the Russians will be able to go on offensive with little resistance.

The Russians NEVER wanted to take the entire country, however. All they wanted to do was liberate the ethnic Russian part of the country, build a land bridge from Crimea to mainland Russia and take control of the Black Sea, which already mostly been accomplished.

31 posted on 08/20/2023 10:14:56 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: rxh4n1
The Russians are grinding Ukrainian into hamburger. That's the objective. Once the Ukrainian military is depleted enough, they can do whatever they want.

The objective was never to take the entire country but to liberate the ethnic Russian part of it, build a land bridge from Crimea to mainland Russia and take control of the Black Sea, which pretty much been accomplished.

Neocons are the most clueless people on earth, dangerously ignorant.

32 posted on 08/20/2023 10:17:30 AM PDT by Kazan
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33 posted on 08/20/2023 10:35:07 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: mass55th
Hitler thought he could defeat Russia,

So did Napoleon.

"Russia is never as strong, or as weak, as she appears." -- Bismark

34 posted on 08/20/2023 10:37:06 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

58000+ dead


35 posted on 08/20/2023 10:37:06 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: mass55th
Plenty Republicans in Congress following lock-step with Biden on Ukraine.

So too Dennis Prager, who says that "moral clarity" and a "working moral compass" require us to aid Ukraine.

36 posted on 08/20/2023 10:39:56 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Kazan

Biden and friends knew this all the time, they just wanted the bribery money.


37 posted on 08/20/2023 11:08:53 AM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: combat_boots

“I just want people to stop dying”

Indicted, of course.


38 posted on 08/20/2023 11:09:51 AM PDT by M1911A1 (Drain The Swamp)
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To: Kazan
The Russians NEVER wanted to take the entire country, however

if you really believe that, then YOU are the one that's clueless

btw, please explain to us how a country "being ground into dust" is able to hold off Russia AND still launch counterattacks deep inside Russian territory? LOL

you need to give your Russian propaganda a break, no one is buying the nonsense ... Russia cannot win this, and they know it


39 posted on 08/20/2023 11:26:03 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Kazan; All

Sounds like the Chinese have gotten word to the Biden administration they want a long stalemate in the Ukrainian war.


40 posted on 08/20/2023 11:35:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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