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You're not going to like what comes after Pax Americana. (Welcome to the jungle.)
Noahpinion blog ^ | 7 Oct 2023 | Noah Smith

Posted on 10/10/2023 5:27:28 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The United States was really the first country that succeeded with mass immigration from different cultures.

There is no question this was a big factor in our growth into a super power. Because at one time we did it right, we had the “Melting Pot”, where people blended into one unique American culture.

That all changed with the Cultural Marxists, and declaring the Melting Pot as a racist construct. Now instead of the Melting Pot, we have Balkanization.


21 posted on 10/10/2023 6:54:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Scotland is not the USA. A economically self sufficient USA basically conquored the world in 1945.


22 posted on 10/10/2023 6:54:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
A economically self sufficient USA basically conquored the world in 1945.

Because the rest of the world was bombed, their infrastructure ruined, and manpower shortages because of the loss of life. We were basically the only industrial country left standing in 1945.

23 posted on 10/10/2023 6:57:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
If told you Adam Smith it was a good idea to offshore factories from England to say the fledgling USA and then re-import the finished products back to England duty free, thus undercutting the working class he would have laughed in your face. Even Adam Smith wasn't that crazy.
24 posted on 10/10/2023 6:58:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: dfwgator

In 1940 we produced everything thing here AND WON THE WORLD WAR. Nice try, fail


25 posted on 10/10/2023 6:59:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
A economically self sufficient USA basically conquored the world in 1945.

An economically self-sufficient German Reich didn't. The US had the resources of the Western Hemisphere to draw on: rubber, tin, copper, etc.

There is much to be said for "reshoring" industries and bringing back American manufacturing, but you are acting like a troll.

26 posted on 10/10/2023 7:00:02 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Germany’s problem was oil. Simply couldn’t get enough. They were trying to make synthetic oil but it never got off the ground.


27 posted on 10/10/2023 7:04:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: central_va

I am on Bastiat’s side on this one.


28 posted on 10/10/2023 7:06:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If Kitty Genovese had a gun, she’d be in jail today.)
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To: x
Patriots are not trolls, Free Traitors™ are the trolls.

PS The third Reich used factories from all over central and western Europe.

29 posted on 10/10/2023 7:06:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

In that case, you can enlighten us on what specific elements are needed and whether they are no deposits in the US and Canada or whether the deposits are not competitive with e.g. South African mines in the current geopolitical environment.


30 posted on 10/10/2023 7:20:35 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Furthermore, more inter-state conflict does not mean that trade stops nor that the US has to be involved with one or the other of the parties in conflict.

The US is the main advocate of cutting off trade with nations that we have an actual or possible conflict with. Other nations seem happy to continue trade, e.g. I believe that gas is still flowing to Europe from Russia via Ukrainian pipelines.

And other countries avoid identifying parties to conflicts as their own friends or foes. e.g. China is avoiding that in Ukraine and Israel.


31 posted on 10/10/2023 7:32:01 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Silicon is the second most abundant element in the Earth’s crust and yes, that includes sand.


32 posted on 10/10/2023 7:41:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: FarCenter

https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news-release/us-geological-survey-releases-2022-list-critical-minerals

https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/12034/chapter/1

That’s from a 15-second browse. Which anyone could have done if they WANTED to. But ignorance is bliss, they say.....


33 posted on 10/10/2023 8:01:57 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“China practices mercantilist policies, to the detriment of her own people and our manufacturers.”

Why is it to the detriment of her own people?

China standard of living has increased many folds since it started exporting manufactured goods. It used to be a basket case, now it’s the second most powerful country and growing.

And its mercantilism is very different than what was practiced in the 19th century. Back then countries like Britain and France would drain their colonies of their natural resources (including gold) and send them manufactured goods.

Today China sends us manufactured goods in exchange for iou’s in the form of treasuries. Quite a deal for us if you ask me.

They basically fund our yearly deficits which pay for our welfare programs.

So Chinese people work so ours don’t have to.


34 posted on 10/10/2023 8:07:04 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Couldn’t read the article, that blogger had too much of it blocked off with popups.


35 posted on 10/10/2023 8:10:14 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: dfwgator

“ The United States was really the first country that succeeded with mass immigration from different cultures.”

That’s because we insisted they become Americans and there was a long pause after we took a large number in. It wasn’t until 1965 when Ted Kennedy changed all that. I hope Satan is butt raping his soul without ceasing.

L


36 posted on 10/10/2023 8:14:47 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: dfwgator
Germany’s problem was oil. Simply couldn’t get enough. They were trying to make synthetic oil but it never got off the ground.

By 1944 about 50% of Germany's aviation fuel was synthetic, so yes, it did get off the ground, literally as well as figuratively.

A more critical resource problem after 1942 was cobalt. The recapture of North Africa by the Allies cut off their cobalt supply, and thereafter they couldn't make exhaust valves for their aircraft engines that would last more than a few hours. The hot-section blades in their otherwise advanced jet engines also were notoriously short-lived.

37 posted on 10/10/2023 8:15:22 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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Why is it to the detriment of her own people?

Because they are paid less than the value of their labor, and to much of the added value goes to those who are connected, including the CCP bureaucrats and connected capitalists. With free trade, rather than a government monopoly they would receive higher wages.

38 posted on 10/10/2023 8:17:04 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If Kitty Genovese had a gun, she’d be in jail today.)
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To: FarCenter
I believe that gas is still flowing to Europe from Russia via Ukrainian pipelines.

Ironically, yes. Moscow needs the foreign exchange, and Ukraine would not benefit from cutting supply to supporters in Europe.

Another more obvious critical item we import, and I forgot, is bauxite, the ore from which aluminum is extracted. Our domestic supplies are small and expensive to mine.

39 posted on 10/10/2023 8:26:09 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Fresh Wind
Silicon is the second most abundant element in the Earth’s crust and yes, that includes sand.

I should NOT have to tell anyone who graduated high school this, but silicon is only the base on which semiconductors are constructed. Look up "dopants", the small galaxy of other elements added to produce the desired properties. They include almost all of the metals in the periodic table. Without them there are no transistors, and hence no computers more sophisticated than the old UNIVAC, with its' thousands of vacuum tubes.

40 posted on 10/10/2023 8:36:37 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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