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Posted on 04/01/2024 7:05:59 PM PDT by al baby

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To: Bullish
Yes, but many still were not believers It is, after all, hard to face the reality that your government really is no better than other countries. The Democrats would say it, but it was rationalized as them being America-haters, which they were & still are, but they couldn't help raising the curtain up ever so slightly like the criminal who taunts the police.

No longer could the normies, for the most part, deny it. Some here still refuse to accept the reality. Because acknowledging that reality is just too frightening. If they just ignore it, it will all go away & return to normal.

At least that is my explanation, because no one is really that blind are they?

21 posted on 04/01/2024 8:02:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: al baby

Trump is an existential threat to the deep state.

They will stop him at ANY cost.

Prayers up! Supplies topped off.


22 posted on 04/01/2024 8:15:49 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (DEI = Didn't Earn It!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I agree, and everyone around that I talk to says the same thing. The dems are so desperate that everything’s on the table... Wet work and all.

I believe in God and I’m praying for his protection of Trump.


23 posted on 04/01/2024 8:24:21 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: No name given

Can you even imagine what the USA and the world would be like if Hitlery had won in 2016?

We dodged a bullet then, and we need to do it again in 2024! Fer Shure! Fer Shure!


24 posted on 04/01/2024 8:32:35 PM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: al baby

He still is.

We are alive to be witness to and fighters for it, him, us.


25 posted on 04/01/2024 8:34:48 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: al baby

Of course, I felt peace, and upbeat, during the Trump years - in spite of the unhinged Left’s non-stop attacks on him.

But the Reagan Presidency - that was my favorite. :)


26 posted on 04/01/2024 9:56:07 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: al baby

His biggest mistake.

27 posted on 04/01/2024 9:57:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: al baby

The contrast between the trump years of sane american policy, peacemaking and partnerships is very sharp compared to the biden years of 10g accelerating corruption, lawfare, warmongering and criminality in high places.


28 posted on 04/02/2024 2:55:58 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What choice did he have? Fauci was foisted on him with his ‘top notch’ credentials and all.
What would you have done in Trump’s position? They screwed him and they released the damn virus too.

Crazy? Think about it... They won, didn’t they?


29 posted on 04/02/2024 3:41:21 AM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Bullish

Trump won by exposing them if nothing else.
Now we need to finish what he started.
However possible.


30 posted on 04/02/2024 4:40:53 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Robert DeLong

” No longer could the normies, for the most part, deny it. Some here still refuse to accept the reality. Because acknowledging that reality is just too frightening. If they just ignore it, it will all go away & return to normal.

At least that is my explanation, because no one is really that blind are they?”

Exactly right. And unfortunately yes they are. Many are still stuck in the old days when the Republicans actually cared about their constituents and stood on principle.

They better wake up to the reality that those days are gone.


31 posted on 04/02/2024 5:12:17 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

I really do not think they have the capability to face reality. I hope I am wrong & they do awaken, though I don’t believe they would have much to offer even awake. I hope I am wrong on that assessment too.


32 posted on 04/02/2024 5:40:47 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

I have been hollering and predicting since Clinton was in office and have only been able to wake up a very few minds to reality. By what I read from you it looks like you have also. The refusal to adapt and change is almost like a deep set traditional religion. “Republican” even if it means electing the criminal establishment. And the opportunistic powers that be know this and take advantage of it. For far too many John McCain is still a hero and Reagan will be elected again someday...


33 posted on 04/02/2024 5:58:12 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
Yeah, but I wasn't really awake myself in many ways. I clearly saw the problems Bill Clinton brought, but I blamed the Democrats entirely. I mistakenly still believed that the Republicans were good people. Incredibly stupid, and ineffective as opposition to the problem this nation faced.

Two people on a chat bard I frequented, one a policeman the other an airline pilot were trying to awaken me to the Republicans. But I wasn't following because Reagan had inspired me. This was during W. Bush first term.

They also were trying to awaken me about the cabal that wanted to establish a One World Government. However, they didn't really have enough information at that time. That coupled with my disbelief that such a "cabal" could ever actually establish such a thing was so beyond the realm of believability, that I dismissed that claim as being absurd . though I did follow some of those they did mention like Bilderberg etc.

Then 9/11 hit & I was convinced that the Democrats were selling this nation down the river.

But when I saw the reaction to Trump, I could no longer dismiss the claims, and more information had come into view as well.

So, to a degree I understand, but I mean what does it take for people to at least start thinking about it. I personally think they will fail in the One World Government conspiracy. However, it doesn't take success in creating a One World Government to wreck & destroy freedoms. The outcome may be as bad or perhaps even worse.

That is the point they will not come to terms with. People just do not understand the true power these people have at their disposal. Besides that they have control of this nation as well.

Where do they see the help arriving from exactly, if not the people themselves working together? Our strength is in pour numbers.

If they honestly believe that their world would return to normal if we just sit back & watch, the are delusional.

That is why the threat of a One World Government must be taken seriously. It's paramount in fact. There is a lot at stake, & it is obvious that they are trying to create a One World Government, where the elites are like Gods who are able to move about wherever & whenever they want, but the vast majority will be confined, limited, & totally dependent upon them.

They also are consistently talking about the world being overpopulated & that it is unsustainable, so they seek to tinker with sustainability as well. This could only be accomplished by making the majority either incapable of reproducing, killing the desire within them to reproduce, or by mass extinction. Since they are mere mortals, they have no clue what the real repercussions that may have.

They just dismiss all of this as nonsense of a rambling nut job.

Sometimes it almost makes one think, perhaps they should see it first hand. But then we all have families to think about, so that thought never lingers long.

34 posted on 04/02/2024 6:40:37 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Excellent... Thank you.

I kind of battled that also in trying to convince folks over the years. Having a deep interest in history I was fortunate enough to see that “this has been done before” during Clinton. Ruby Ridge and Waco were very obviously a message sent to the people that “you will immediately submit to your government superiors or be charged, tried, and executed on the spot for even daring to resist”.

From that point on it was clear the Constitution and concept of “innocent until proven guilty” was now gone. We the people were now enemies of the state. It was really cinched when Clinton closed Pennsylvania ave. It was an admission of guilt and wrong doing. He knew he was operating against the people and feared reprisal. At that time I kept asking myself “where are the Republicans, the party of the Constitution? Where is the press and why are they not exposing truth or discussing it?”

Oh... Because they are all in on the government take over and suppression of the very people they work for. Our employees had committed mutiny right at that point in history. So I started asking then “who stands to benefit? If the people lose who will win?” That sent me into a life long project of research up the ladder to find out who this deception would benefit the most. It went obviously to global control and New World Order as the end goal.

“They just dismiss all of this as nonsense of a rambling nut job.”

Fools... “Merica! never happen here!” I am on board with every point you make here, the New World Order is a real thing and already here, we are just in denial and still refuse to see it.

“Sometimes it almost makes one think, perhaps they should see it first hand.”

They are, it is blatantly right in front of their faces and not even a secret anymore but they refuse to see. But it was slid into our pockets so incrementally and slowly that we have been “softened up” slowly to accept it as normal. No one stands back and looks at the whole picture to see the reality of the total. Just the mass shootings that used to NEVER happen should be enough. Now we have accepted it as normal news about current society and don’t even pay much attention to these anymore.

But when you add up all the historic elements and forks of the bipartisan agenda it is so obvious even a fourth grader could connect the dots...


35 posted on 04/02/2024 8:02:21 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
I could see from Watergate & The Pentagon Papers, that the press had dramatically shifted to be the mouthpiece for the Democrat Party m and thus an actual extension of the party.

Objective reporting was lost from then on. So, it didn't surprise me at all that they sided with the Democrats on issues.

Ruby Ridge impacted me more so than did the Branch Davidians Waco, but only because they offered up resistance right from the start. Had David Koresh just surrendered himself, I might have caught on. I also bought into the possibility that he had committed sexual crimes against children. It seemed like a cult, and Johnstown Guyana Massacre didn't help his cause at that point either. There were also questions about who fired first. A Russian in our group also condemned the government. He saw it whereas I hadn't seen it. He had lived it under the USSR communist rule, while I was still a normie who saw only the evil on the Democrat side of the spectrum.

While I saw that the government was less benevolent, I assumed that perhaps even Democrats were getting tired of unruly behavior. I was however, aghast of the outcome. But again, there were issues on both sides that I rationalized had contributed to the outcome.

As for closing down the part of Pa. Ave, in front of the White House, I took merely as precautionary measures. I hated the Clinton Administration, because I didn't like a lot of things they did, and I thought Clinton was a scumbag communist.

One thing that really angered my was how they took possession of 6 year old Elián González to return him to his father in Cuba, at the very end of Clinton's presidency. It was on or around Jan.6th too I think.

“Merica! never happen here!”

My response: Frank Zappa - Freak Out

Well, yes they are seeing it, yet they aren't, and I'm sure you understand what I mean by that. 👍😋

36 posted on 04/02/2024 10:58:39 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: MinorityRepublican

“His biggest mistake.”

On paper, highly qualified. In practice, traitorous.


37 posted on 04/02/2024 1:03:07 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That and not putting Hilary in jail


38 posted on 04/02/2024 5:36:51 PM PDT by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: Robert DeLong

“Well, yes they are seeing it, yet they aren’t, and I’m sure you understand what I mean by that.”

Yes, they can’t see the forest for the trees.

But I need to clarify an important point. For me Ruby Ridge and Waco was not so much the “why” they did it but “how” they did it. To “get their man” they threw all caution and the Constitutional rights of innocent associates completely out the door. It displayed the fact that civilian lives no longer matter. all that matters is their power over citizen’s rights.

It was all about sending the message that you will never question government authority or you will die. And it has been a standard policing protocol since. Ruby Ridge was the turning point where the people no longer owned government, but that the government now owned the people.


39 posted on 04/03/2024 5:47:34 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
Definitely true with Ruby Ridge, but conflicting accounts make Waco less certain. I think in the Waco event, had they invited David Koresh into the sheriff's office to talk, it might have gone in a different direction. However, I agree with you that the government without question wanted to present a show of force. On that single respect, I side with you that they were inviting the resistance the Branch Davidians feared they would. Because it was well known that they didn't have too much faith in the Federal Government especially. Local government was not as big a threat as far as they were concerned. They had many contacts with them and respect was a two-way street between them. I think I remember the sheriff even saying something to that affect. But I could be remembering something that wasn't the case at all. 😋

However, David Koresh played a role in the outcome as well.

That fact cannot be denied, because the resistance was predicated upon him calling for them to resist, instead of capitulating.

What I am trying to say is that the participants were determined to produce the outcome that unfolded. The government, David & other adults acted in a manner that gave no consideration whatsoever for the fate of the truly innocent present.

40 posted on 04/03/2024 12:32:18 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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