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The Guild 10-25-2003 Iraqi's have long memories.....
cnn ^ | 10-23-2003

Posted on 10/25/2003 6:51:39 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

... And so do we.

Germany, France won't pledge funds at Iraqi conference
Iraqi leader warns of possible backlash

MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- The level of Germany and France's participation in an international conference aimed at raising more funds to rebuild Iraq prompted reaction Thursday from a top Iraqi official, who warned of a possible backlash.

Ayad Allawi, the current head of Iraq's U.S.-appointed governing council, said he hoped German and French officials would reconsider their decision not to boost their contributions beyond funds already pledged through the European Union.

"As far as Germany and France are concerned, really, this was a regrettable position they had," Allawi said. "I don't think the Iraqis are going to forget easily that in the hour of need, those countries wanted to neglect Iraq."

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This thread is dedicated to our friend Lynn (LBGA).

We will miss you.

1 posted on 10/25/2003 6:51:40 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer; Timeout; ClancyJ; BlessedAmerican; daisyscarlett; LBGA; Rheo; ..
Good morning.
2 posted on 10/25/2003 6:52:07 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Dennis Miller's on a roll in this interview. Fate was smiling on us when it sent him scampering to our side of the fence.

And Victor Davis Hanson takes on the pundit class on Iraq:

Yet here we stand, a little more than six months later, with a country that was the worst in the Middle East evolving into the best. We are witnessing nothing less than the revolutionary and great moral event of the age, and when it comes to pass, a reborn democratic Iraq will overturn almost all the conventional wisdom, here and abroad, about the Middle East, the nature and purpose of war in our age, the moral differences between Europe and America — and the place in history of George W. Bush.

No wonder the current hysteria looks likely to increase in the months ahead.

The elites think Americans have forgotten 9/11 and reverted to Clinton-mania. This next election will tell us just how shallow our citizenry has become....I think the pundits are in for a shock.
3 posted on 10/25/2003 7:18:54 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: All
Rummy's OTHER leaked memo:

LOL!

4 posted on 10/25/2003 7:24:01 AM PDT by Timeout
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Here's the full-sized version at The Weekly Standard:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/293qrzpj.asp
5 posted on 10/25/2003 7:25:10 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: BigWaveBetty; LBGA; *The GUILD

The waving flag came from a Quicktime movie I made of the flag with my digital camera on the day my son graduated from Airborne School at Ft. Benning, GA. It was a great day for the flag and for me.

Above from Lynn's homepage here, beneath from God:

"And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away." (Revelation 21:4)


6 posted on 10/25/2003 7:40:23 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Timeout
Bill and Hillary’s marriage couldn’t have been any more about convenience than if they’d installed a Slim Jim rack and Slurpee machine at the base of their bed.

I would truly LOVE to see Miller in the senate...those folks are as dead as the bent's marriage.

Thanks for the link, T.
7 posted on 10/25/2003 7:43:11 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Thanks JL.
8 posted on 10/25/2003 7:47:50 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
I noticed Dennis' scampering shortly after 9/11. He's always had what appeared to me to be contempt for clintoon (he thought the intern thing was beyond the pale) but Dennis would throw out barbs for both sides. Soon after 9/11 it became clear he would straddle the fence anymore. YEA!

If you haven't seen his comedy special on HBO (not his regular show) watch it. He skewers lots of liberal and progressive policies.

I think the pundits are in for a shock.

I think you're right! :-)

Some of Best of the Web from Friday that I liked:

'A Very Long Year'
The New York Sun has a report on the Democratic presidential campaign that can't be encouraging to those who hope for a new president next year:

"It's been a very long year of special-interest hopping," said Bruce Reed, president of the Democratic Leadership Council, a coalition of moderate Democrats.

Mr. Reed said he began to worry about the process in January when six of the candidates appeared together at a dinner sponsored by the National Abortion Rights Action League. Mr. Reed said the Rev.Al Sharpton "boasted" about being arrested at an abortion rights protest and Howard Dean, a physician and the former governor of Vermont, regaled the crowd with stories about counseling he had given to his patients, including a 12-year-old girl who he said was probably the victim of incest.

"I knew we were in trouble," said Mr. Reed, who was domestic policy adviser to President Clinton. "Those two completely stole the show," he said."If you hadn't been arrested or you hadn't performed an abortion, you might not be able to compete." [Cozying up to abortion, how comforting.]

The Campaign Heats Up
New Hampshire Public Radio has a hilarious vignette from Joe Lieberman's primary campaign:

In the middle of a cold, windy day--with the first snow of the year falling all around them--a team of young Lieberman supporters were promoting the fact that their man fights global warming. Apparently oblivous to the large white flakes around them, an observer noted, "It's snowing!" Unabashed, one young supporter replied, "That's because of global warming!"

Why didn't Lieberman's supporters just take credit for the snow, offering it as evidence of their man's success in combating global warming? [I'll take a stab... They're not smart enough?]

Will John Kerry Join?
Rep. Amo Houghton, a liberal Republican from upstate New York, has formed the Congressional French Caucus, the Washington Times reports. Houghton made the announcement over a lunch of "salmon, beef and fancy sorbet" at the French ambassador's residence.

'I Hate Moderates'
Cheers to blogger "Frank J." for this delightful bon mot (ellipsis in original):

There is now a Centrist Coalition blog. I hate moderates . . . much more than even liberals. I bet Satan is a moderate; the best way to get evil accepted is to package it with some good. That's what moderates do; they're always like, "Oh! I'm so special because I don't take a firm stance on issues, and I see value in everyone's viewpoints." I bet right now a moderate is reading this and partially agreeing with it. Damn you! :-)

9 posted on 10/25/2003 8:07:46 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
he would straddle

he wouldn't straddle! grrrrrr

10 posted on 10/25/2003 8:09:38 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
Oh my, that is too, too funny!
11 posted on 10/25/2003 8:14:43 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
BEN Affleck - despite all his J.Lo-generated publicity - is on a slide career-wise.

Just four weeks from the start of production on "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past," Disney has canceled the comedy about a bachelor visited during his brother's wedding by specters of his former flames.

Betty Thomas, of "I Spy" fame, had been hired in August to direct the movie, and the studio was just about to announce some big names as Affleck's co-stars.

The Hollywood Reporter noted that "in addition to the movie's high cost, another contributing factor was Affleck's tarnished image. The star has taken a beating in the tabloids and at the box office with the failure of his most recent film, 'Gigli.' "

Disney will have to pay Affleck's salary in any case - unless another studio picks up the movie - because he has a "pay-or-play" contract.

Meanwhile, Paramount is said to be considering dropping Affleck from its next Jack Ryan movie, though he played the CIA agent in "The Sum of All Fears."

Affleck will be seen in December in John Woo's "Paycheck," and next year in what is widely rumored to be another Affleck/Lopez bomb, "Jersey Girl," directed by Kevin Smith.

The relationship of Affleck with Jennifer Lopez has launched a thousand magazine covers. The latest supermarket tabloid story has them eloping any minute. But the publicity isn't helping put any fannies in seats for their movies.

"Daredevil" failed to capture the audience that "Spider Man," "X-Men" and "The Hulk" pulled in. And "Gigli" - after being savaged by the critics - was one of the biggest flops of all time.

Beside the speculation over the wedding and its last-minute postponement, readers have been deluged with stories about Affleck's partying with strippers, his gambling and his impulsive shopping for cars and jewelry.

There is a growing suspicion that all the publicity is backfiring, that the public is getting bored with "Bennifer."

It might be time for Affleck and Lopez to take a long vacation, as Demi Moore did, so we'll be eager to see their faces again. PageSix

What a shame.

12 posted on 10/25/2003 8:40:56 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
I oppose any ban on abortion because I think any mechanism that keeps most people from procreating is good. Look around you at the people with whom you work. Do you want all them having offspring? How about those morons on the freewqay this morning, should they be popping out pups?
The abortion argument has left out one of the sides for far too long. In addition to pro-choice and pro-life, there is also pro-abortion. I don't think hippies should go around having choices about aborting. We should just stop them in their tracks.

That IAMO site is something else...thanks for the linkage.
13 posted on 10/25/2003 8:46:03 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
BEN Affleck - despite all his J.Lo-generated publicity - is on a slide career-wise.

Just four weeks from the start of production on "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past," Disney has canceled the comedy about a bachelor visited during his brother's wedding by specters of his former flames.

Betty Thomas, of "I Spy" fame, had been hired in August to direct the movie, and the studio was just about to announce some big names as Affleck's co-stars.

The Hollywood Reporter noted that "in addition to the movie's high cost, another contributing factor was Affleck's tarnished image. The star has taken a beating in the tabloids and at the box office with the failure of his most recent film, 'Gigli.' "

Disney will have to pay Affleck's salary in any case - unless another studio picks up the movie - because he has a "pay-or-play" contract.

Meanwhile, Paramount is said to be considering dropping Affleck from its next Jack Ryan movie, though he played the CIA agent in "The Sum of All Fears."

Affleck will be seen in December in John Woo's "Paycheck," and next year in what is widely rumored to be another Affleck/Lopez bomb, "Jersey Girl," directed by Kevin Smith.

The relationship of Affleck with Jennifer Lopez has launched a thousand magazine covers. The latest supermarket tabloid story has them eloping any minute. But the publicity isn't helping put any fannies in seats for their movies.

"Daredevil" failed to capture the audience that "Spider Man," "X-Men" and "The Hulk" pulled in. And "Gigli" - after being savaged by the critics - was one of the biggest flops of all time.

Beside the speculation over the wedding and its last-minute postponement, readers have been deluged with stories about Affleck's partying with strippers, his gambling and his impulsive shopping for cars and jewelry.

There is a growing suspicion that all the publicity is backfiring, that the public is getting bored with "Bennifer."

It might be time for Affleck and Lopez to take a long vacation, as Demi Moore did, so we'll be eager to see their faces again. PageSix

What a shame.

14 posted on 10/25/2003 8:46:37 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: lodwick
I must need more caffeine, which link is that?
15 posted on 10/25/2003 8:51:58 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: lodwick
Nevermind, sheesh, more caffeine over here please!
16 posted on 10/25/2003 8:53:48 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout; All
The Dennis Miller interview is great.

MILLER: Yes. I think Condoleezza Rice would make a great President. I hope she runs against Hillary. That would be my dream ticket in 2008: Hillary Clinton versus Condi Rice; an imagined track record versus a real track record.

Speaking of Hillary, seems she and the Dems have been focusing on the homosexual "community" in NYC lately:

Jonathan Sheffer, founder of the Eos Orchestra, celebrated his 50th birthday at the Ace Gallery on Hudson Street with his boyfriend Dr. Christopher Barley, plus Sen. Hillary Clinton, City Council Speaker Gifford Miller, Democratic National Committeeman Robert Zimmerman and John Tartaglia of "Avenue Q." (PageSix)

Avenue Q is a Broadway musical which features songs such as ''Everyone's a Little Bit Racist,'' ''Schadenfreude,'' ''The Internet Is for Porn'' and ''You Can Be as Loud as the Hell You Want (When You're Makin' Love).''

In other news, Spain is emerging as the significant European country, while France and Germany, busily shooting themselves in the feet over Iraq, are old news - or "Old Europe," as Rummy said. Interesting article in the Int'l Herald Tribune, here.

17 posted on 10/25/2003 8:55:22 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
Wake up! back there...it's nearing noon,
unless you've already set your clock back.

Why can't all our clocks be like computer clocks?
18 posted on 10/25/2003 9:04:29 AM PDT by lodwick
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Anyone else's BS-ometer going off?

Former US president Bill Clinton has canceled a scheduled trip to Taiwan for the second time since he left office, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said yesterday. Clinton was originally slated to visit Taipei Nov. 15 and Nov 16 at the invitation of the Taiwan Foundation for Democracy, an organization founded by senior government officials to promote democracy.

Victor Chin, director general of the ministry's Department of North American Affairs, said Clinton called off the trip because "one day was too short for him to carry out the activities he wanted." Clinton had told Taiwanese officials in the US that having visited the country four times during his time as governor of Arkansas, he wished to meet up with many good friends he had here.

"Clinton said Taiwan deeply impressed him and that he wanted to see Taiwan's dynamic democracy. But the brief overnight stay, which would last less than 24 hours, cannot really allow him to do anything besides giving a speech and meet with President Chen Shui-bian," Chin said.

Clinton had wanted to visit early next month but delayed his arrival date so that he could meet with Chen, who will be out of the country from Oct. 31 to Nov. 4 on a state visit to Panama, Chin said.

Clinton's office tried to squeeze the Taipei leg into the tight schedule of his Asian trip, between a visit to South Korea and one to Japan, but Clinton eventually decided to drop the Taipei leg. "Now Clinton has postponed his visit until next spring," Chin said, without giving a date.

"Of course we hoped Clinton could visit Taiwan as early as possible. But we respect his decision," Chin said.

The foundation has not paid Clinton for the canceled visit yet. However, Chin said, the delay would not affect the ministry's donation to Clinton's memorial library, which is under construction in Arkansas.

Clinton might meet with Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan and People First Party (PFP) Chairman James Soong if he visits in the spring. A Chinese-language newspaper had invited Clinton to visit Taiwan for four days in September 2001, but the trip was canceled because of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Taipei Times

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No time to visit friends? I thought all his Chinese friends lived in the "other" China, that is, the ones who bulked up his bank account.

19 posted on 10/25/2003 9:16:10 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
The foundation has not paid Clinton for the canceled visit yet. However, Chin said, the delay would not affect the ministry's donation to Clinton's memorial library, which is under construction in Arkansas.

Huh?? People PAY to have that jackass in their country?

Lord love a duck...
20 posted on 10/25/2003 9:25:29 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: *The GUILD
Little Stuff 4 you - including Bare Escentuals

I have NO idea if this pricing compares to QVC or BE stores.


21 posted on 10/25/2003 9:33:12 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Clintoon gets his $$$ over the table (speaking fees) and under the table, I guess, the Lie-brary foundation being nothing but a pipeline to his off-shore accounts.
22 posted on 10/25/2003 9:44:56 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
It might be time for Affleck and Lopez to take a long vacation...

What a shame GREAT SUGGESTION!.

23 posted on 10/25/2003 11:09:45 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: mountaineer
I hope you never see "The Producers". They have a song called "Springtime for Hitler". But, never mind, you wouldn't see it anyway. I forgot it stars those leftist Saddam-loving actors.
24 posted on 10/25/2003 11:49:24 AM PDT by halfdome
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To: BigWaveBetty
As my brother says..." Ben and J-lo are two people who can't act, and when they are together, they really can't act."
25 posted on 10/25/2003 12:18:24 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: halfdome
But, never mind, you wouldn't see it anyway. I forgot it stars those leftist Saddam-loving actors.

I have seen The Producers. As for the above-quoted comment, I have no idea what you're talking about. It seems you don't, either.

26 posted on 10/25/2003 12:51:12 PM PDT by mountaineer (So here's a bunny with a pancake on its head)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
" Ben and J-lo are two people who can't act, and when they are together, they really can't act."

So that means they have their can't-act together.

27 posted on 10/25/2003 1:09:03 PM PDT by MaeWest
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To: MaeWest

Eminem's ex put under house arrest

October 25, 2003






MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. -- After missing two court appearances in a cocaine possession case, Eminem's ex-wife has been placed on electronic house arrest.

Kimberly Mathers is accused of possessing up to 25 grams of cocaine, driving with a suspended license and unsafe driving near a stopped emergency vehicle. A pretrial hearing is scheduled for Dec. 11.

Mathers, 28, will be allowed to leave her home only for court dates and counseling sessions, Macomb County Circuit Judge Edward Servitto ordered. An electronic tether will monitor her movements.

She failed to appear Monday at her arraignment. The judge gave her until Tuesday morning, then issued a bench warrant when she failed to show up.

28 posted on 10/25/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Stewart's tied for the lead at the Disney Classic! (Well, he is for the moment.) He just embedded his ball in the bank of the lake, so may have to take a penalty..darnit!)
29 posted on 10/25/2003 2:20:45 PM PDT by Timeout
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Well, no penalty...just a chunky little punk shot to get the ball back in play. Still a chance for par....fingers crossed!
30 posted on 10/25/2003 2:24:24 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Nice chip
31 posted on 10/25/2003 2:28:22 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Timeout
Great news!

Come'on Stew - stay loose out there.
32 posted on 10/25/2003 2:43:09 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Nice work with driving a stake though this thread's heart.
33 posted on 10/25/2003 6:33:15 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
You killed it,,,,, deader than a door nail. Nice work!
34 posted on 10/25/2003 8:36:16 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Only 88 Days until the Iowa Caucuses,,,,, then Iowans will be rid of these DingBats!)
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To: Iowa Granny
An excellent read, here:
"Osama's Best Friend"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/296fmttq.asp?ZoomFont=YES

I don't care about the elite sniggering at the suggestion that Saddam was connected to 9/11. In my mind there's no question that, having failed to take down the twin towers in 1993, Saddam was anxious to see al Queda succeed. I have no doubt he provided funding, weapons and intelligence to anyone who could further his goal of killing Americans. Every day, if I've been away from TV/radio, when I come home I think: I hope we caught him today.
35 posted on 10/26/2003 5:47:53 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout; Iowa Granny; *The GUILD

Good Sunday morning, everyone.


36 posted on 10/26/2003 5:57:42 AM PST by lodwick
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To: All
Whew! Now we can all take a breath, Jen and Brad will save the Middle East!

After Tony and Kofi fail, Brad and Jennifer try Mid-East diplomacy

37 posted on 10/26/2003 6:11:58 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
Just a minute ago on NBC Jim Miclowhatever just relayed a story about the attack this morning on the Al Rasheed hotel.

He and Steven Hayes (Weekly Standard) were in the area of the mortar attacks and saw one room that had been destroyed. They called out to see if anyone was inside the dark room. Jim didn't hear anything and thier group was about to leave but Steven Hayes said he heard moaning. They went back in and found someone!

Steven Hayes continues to impress me.

I have no doubt he provided funding, weapons and intelligence to anyone who could further his goal of killing Americans.

Judge Baer agrees with you and entered a judgement against Saddam on May 7, 2003 for collaborating with bin Laden on the 9/11 attacks.

Off to read your link....

38 posted on 10/26/2003 6:23:44 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Should be: Stephen Hayes
39 posted on 10/26/2003 6:46:55 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
Can't wait for today's coverage of the tournament. Last group, woo hoo!
40 posted on 10/26/2003 6:51:48 AM PST by mountaineer
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A few days ago, weren't we reading about how the NY Times had a former Clinton official's spouse review the latest "bio" of x42? Now this, from the Left Coast:

THE publisher of a new book about the murder of Daniel Pearl claims the book-review editor of the Los Angeles Times ordered a hatchet job against the controversial tome because of a conflict of interest. "Who Killed Daniel Pearl?" (Melville House), by French journalist Bernard-Henri Lévy, accuses the government of Pakistan of playing a key role in Pearl's abduction and murder. So it raised eyebrows when the L.A. Times Book Review - run by editor Steve Wasserman - had Pakistani critic Mahnaz Ispahani review Levy's work.

Not surprisingly, Ispahani tore the book to pieces in an article that Melville House founder Dennis Johnson says was so factually inaccurate "one could only assume she didn't even read the book."

Several facts seem to bolster Johnson's claim that Ispahani was chosen to do the review as a premeditated hit. First, Ispahani had made negative comments about the book in The New Republic months before she was assigned the review. Secondly, Philadelphia-based critic Carlin Romano had already been assigned the job when Wasserman took it away and gave it to Ispahani. Romano eventually published his rave review in The Philadelphia Inquirer. rest of story, Page Six.

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!

41 posted on 10/26/2003 7:01:18 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: All
Page Six also reports:

WE HEAR . . . THAT fans in Sante Fe, N.M., who waited two hours to have their books signed by Michael Moore, were told as they approached the portly populist: "Take your hands out of your pockets and don't ask him any questions"

Sounds like Chubby's taking lessons from Hillary.

42 posted on 10/26/2003 7:12:45 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: All
Is there any story into which this idiot won't interject himself?

BLAIR'S HEART PROBLEM SECRET FOR 5 YEARS
Oct 26 2003
BILL CLINTON REVEALS TO SUNDAY MIRROR
From James Saville And Dan Evans In Barcelona

FORMER US President Bill Clinton has revealed that Tony Blair has known of his heart problem for FIVE YEARS. Downing Street insisted that last weekend's scare was an unexpected one-off. But Mr Clinton told the Sunday Mirror that his old friend had nursed his health secret for years.

"I've known about this for a long time," Mr Clinton said when asked during a visit to Spain this week. "He told me about it quite a few years ago.

"As soon as I heard what happened I called to check he was OK. We had a talk and he sounded in good shape.

"Basically, the whole problem is brought about by a combination of too little sleep and too much coffee. It's a common condition which doesn't interfere with his work and he has learned to live with it. He's still a relatively young man and exercises regularly so that gives him the strength to fight off these little blips." Mr Clinton, who has lost over two stone in recent months, said Mr Blair told him of the complaint after he became PM in 1997.

"He told me it was no big deal. But I knew the moment I heard what must have happened," said Mr Clinton. rest of story, Daily Mirror

43 posted on 10/26/2003 7:35:36 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
This is a BIGWAVEBETTY ALERT!!!!!

Betty's computer is acting up, but she wants you all to know that George Clooney will be on CNN's Reliable Sources at 11:30 today.
44 posted on 10/26/2003 8:21:06 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Poor Looney can't afford a suit that fits properly?
45 posted on 10/26/2003 8:35:27 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
How did Stewart do in his tournement?
46 posted on 10/26/2003 8:39:07 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: mountaineer
That SOB!! Clinton is the worst scumbag!!!

Why would he out his friend? Because Tony was putting up with the scum just because he was prez and told us so a few weeks back.

If I were Tony Blair I hook up with GWB and make sure that scum never sees another election!

47 posted on 10/26/2003 8:39:52 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
I would wager Blubba's story is all hooey. Picture it: two world leaders are sitting around discussing important issues of the day, and Tony says, "By the way, Bill, have I ever told you about my heart condition? I simply must cut back on the caffeine, eh, wot? Just don't tell anyone else!"

x42 still seems to be that chubby dorky kid in husky-sized pants who will say anything to make himself seem relevant or the least bit important, even to something that doesn't concern him.

48 posted on 10/26/2003 8:48:27 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; BigWaveBetty; All
Ole bent; of whom it was said that "he's an uncommonly good liar," and that "he would rather climb up a tree to tell a lie, than to say on the ground and tell the truth."

Cheers guys.

Go Stew!
49 posted on 10/26/2003 9:28:35 AM PST by lodwick
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To: lodwick
...stay on the ground...

doh
50 posted on 10/26/2003 9:29:28 AM PST by lodwick
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