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Good and Evil in Middle-Earth
Christian History Magazine ^ | Spring 2003 | Ralph C. Wood

Posted on 12/19/2003 9:49:07 AM PST by My2Cents

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To: Alouette
There is no "Christ" figure in LOTR.

I respectfully disagree. While there is not a consistent and perpetual Christ figure (like Aslan in "Chronicles of Narnia), there are aspects to the characters, and certain actions of characters (e.g., Gandalf, Aragorn) which are "types" of Christ (this was not lost on Peter Jackson who, in conveying Gandalf's fall into the abyss in Moria, had Gandalf's falling figure assuming the sign of a cross). Even Sam's role as constant companion, help, and encourager, is a type of the Holy Spirit.

21 posted on 12/19/2003 12:09:10 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: JenB
Well-said.
22 posted on 12/19/2003 12:09:57 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: Corin Stormhands
Don't forget...Aragorn, as King, was also a healer.
23 posted on 12/19/2003 12:10:53 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: My2Cents
Darn...extra credit...
24 posted on 12/19/2003 12:15:08 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Proudly being a natural irritant since 1958.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
There is no "Christ" figure in LOTR.

Actually there are three (at least) that I would consider "Christlike" figures. Did a research paper on it in college

I majored in languages (also during the 2nd Age) and noted the similarities between LOTR and the Nibelungenlied of which there are many. One could argue that LOTR is actually a retelling of the Nibelungenlied just like Wagner's cycle of operas because the stories parallel each other in many ways.

I'm not a Christian, so the "aspects of Christ" analogy is not so obvious to me. It's just that these same aspects (faces of G-D) can also be found in the OT, as well as (l'havdil from holy to profane) in pre-Christian pagan myth. It is not a "uniquely" Christian allegory.

25 posted on 12/19/2003 12:57:38 PM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu Ha-Cohen, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: Alouette
I think the Fellowship as a whole is the Christ figure. Gandalf is the death and resurection. The Hobbits are the humble nature of the son of a carpenter. Aragorn is his natural ability to lead men when it must be done. Legolas is his grace. Gimli his fighting spirit.

Something like that, just going off the top of my head.
26 posted on 12/19/2003 1:02:51 PM PST by discostu (that's a waste of a perfectly good white boy)
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To: Alouette; JenB; Wneighbor; ksen
It's just that these same aspects (faces of G-D) can also be found in the OT.

The Old Testament, which is of course full of references to Christ. Tolkien drew from many influences. He acknowledged that. But to paraphrase him "I am a Christian, my writing will reflect that."

It is not allegory in the sense that The Chronicles of Narnia are Christian allegory. But it is undeniable that Tolkien's faith shines forth through his work.

27 posted on 12/19/2003 1:31:19 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Proudly being a natural irritant since 1958.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Right. They are applicable, not allegorical. Elves do not represent anything, they demonstrate something. Aragorn is not Christ the way Aslan is Christ; he's just a type of Christ.

I hope that my faith will show in my writing, someday, half as beautifully as Tolkien's shines through his.
28 posted on 12/19/2003 1:35:01 PM PST by JenB (21 Days Til EntMoot)
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To: My2Cents
read later
29 posted on 12/19/2003 1:52:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: My2Cents
are not battles over ideology, but are spiritual battles

BINGO!

30 posted on 12/19/2003 3:35:24 PM PST by Maigret
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To: JenB
I do dislike his phrasing "prevented from fulfilling his(Frodo's) mission"

I have felt that - not only the 'burden' of carrying the Ring, and the shoulder wound worked on Frodo, but his own guilt over knowing that he had succumbed to the the Ring - that all these things, not least his own sense of quilt worked on him, causing him continued pain, and din't allow him to 'heal'.

Don't know, but I've just always felt that his own sense of shame worked on him till he left Middleearth.

31 posted on 12/19/2003 9:02:33 PM PST by LinnieBeth
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To: My2Cents; All
recent article from the Christian science monitor.

'Return of the King' brings back the epic hero - and crowds

By Gloria Goodale and Daniel B. Wood | Staff writers of The Christian Science Monitor

LOS ANGELES – Hunks, babes, and a battle for the soul of mankind.
These might sound like ingredients in a cynical Hollywood producer's recipe for a surefire blockbuster. But they were also tapped, half a century ago, in the prose of a proper professor of Old English named J.R.R. Tolkien.



This week, it is his vision brought to life on the big screen that is drawing record-breaking audiences of every age to see "The Return of the King," the final installment of Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings."

The linguist from Oxford University, it turns out, knew that it takes some bodacious swashbuckling to keep readers' eyes open. And he delivered something more that is now resonating in a post-9/11 world: deeper truths about man's struggle against evil and fight for redemption. "It's all the technology of Hollywood harnessed to telling a story that is worth something for the ages ... even the smallest creatures can make a significant difference in a war that encompasses the world," says Mel Campbell, who waited from 6 a.m to midnight midnight to see "Return of the King" at its opening showing Wednesday. The recreation manager from Palos Verdes, Calif., and several friends huddled around a table playing a "Lord of the Rings" board game to pass the time as they waited.

The epic, 200-minute finale has already won "best film" accolades by numerous groups, led by the New York Film Critics Circle. This has not staved off a certain level of "Ring" fatigue, inevitable given the nearly three years it has taken to complete the film-watching journey.

"For every one of my students who've become converts through the movies," says Charles Nelson, associate professor of literature at Michigan Technological University, "there are those who can't stand the books and think the movies are a waste of time." Nonetheless, says the professor who has taught one of the two longest running courses on Tolkien in the US (since 1973), just because a student isn't caught up in Tolkien's vision, doesn't change the fact that "Lord of the Rings" is one of the most important and influential books of the 20th century. A recent Amazon.com online poll dubbed it book of the millennium. It was No. 1 on the BBC's Big Read project.

"It touches on all the great themes of the old epics and sagas," says Nelson. "There's the loyalty of the fellowship, the idea of the roundtable and being bound together by a mission or a task," he says, adding that this focus on the contribution of the smallest member of the group is what sparks most with his students. "None of them really thinks they'll go on a big adventure like Aragorn, but they can identify with Frodo and Sam, two little people struggling against a big burden."

While Tolkien made a point of describing the hobbits as sort of half-men, Nelson says it's the valor of the ordinary "man" in extraordinary circumstances that makes the hobbits the story's heart. "They are short in stature, but not in vision."

"I think it's the hobbits which give normal people access into this larger saga," says Steven Hlebasko, a tennis instructor standing in line here. "People like the idea that even a tiny player without magical can affect the big picture."

In post-9/11 America, they also like the idea of heroes without irony, observers say - a turn away from many of the successful novels of the 20th century in which the dominant character was an anti-hero.

"My students are resonating with the return to heroism with a completely straight face, like the fire and policeman running straight into the World Trade Centers without fear," says Professor Michael Drout, a medieval specialist at Wheaton College. Attendance at his classes has doubled in the past three years. "[Students] have gotten tired of the wisecracking Han Solos, and figures like Holden Caulfield ["Catcher in the Rye"] that refuse to accept phoniness but aren't out to save the world."

Tolkien himself thought a film of his epic would be impossible. But Hollywood - now able to do computer animation of prominent characters as well as vast armies - has finally caught up, says Tom Shippey, a professor at Saint Louis University and one of the world's foremost Tolkien experts (he teaches the other longest-running Tolkien course in the country).

And the genre has taken off. But Tolkien, to many, did it first and best. The veteran of the horrors of World War I eschewed simplistic allegory. "Tolkien on his own generated the genre of heroic fantasy, which is one of the most prolific and popular genres in the world right now," says Dr. Shippey. The reason is simple, he adds. Combine the psychological depth of his timeless themes with the latest technology and you have the recipe for a blockbuster.

While similar plaudits have been showered on other fantasy blockbusters ("Star Wars," "The Matrix"), "Rings" has something none of the others possess: Tolkien's towering intellect that created a fully realized world, complete with languages and detailed histories. In fact, the books were intended as a sort of updated "Beowulf," ancient tales that contained all the learning of a culture in a single, grand saga. Says Nelson: "He was trying to put into readable English what he thought was being communicated by these old books."

32 posted on 12/22/2003 4:33:52 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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