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To: RobFromGa
real debate, from real logic?

That would imply a loyalty to reason first, and agenda second. Most arguments are after the fact--you believe what you believe, and reasons come second.

In fighting the fallacy, most often ignored is the power of the fallacy. More powerful, generally, than reason.

11 posted on 12/20/2003 9:22:12 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
In fighting the fallacy, most often ignored is the power of the fallacy. More powerful, generally, than reason.

Precisely. And for two reasons (!)

First is the rejection of reason as inadequate.
Second is the failure to understand that fallacy invalidates the argument.

I think it was the previous installment where someone talked about writing a book on the positive side of fallacies. An example of Rejection of reason.

I didn't even bother to respond because if a person has decided this, there is nothing one can say.

The problem is twofold. Are the premises valid? Do they actually derive from some verified evidence in reality?

And does the conclusion derive from the premises?

It is fashionable today to never examine the former and reject the laws of logic in arriving at the second.

This particular fallacy can be seen almost daily in the "This is not what the Founding Fathers intended." Where both sides use quotes from the same people to support opposing positions.

15 posted on 12/21/2003 2:11:30 PM PST by LogicWings
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