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Ice Age Ancestry May Keep Body Warmer and Healthier
NY Times ^ | January 9, 2004 | NICHOLAS WADE

Posted on 01/08/2004 9:00:45 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Tijeras_Slim
LOL yep
51 posted on 01/09/2004 10:25:26 AM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
"Wonder which part of the family tree that one comes from!"

LOL. I been accused of acting like a Neanderthal at times but, no red-heads in my family.

Redheads 'Are Neanderthals'

52 posted on 01/09/2004 10:28:49 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
People celebrating their neanderthal heritage :D
http://www.redandproud.com/famous%20redheads%20anti.htm
53 posted on 01/09/2004 10:35:39 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Use calcium supplements with vitamin D3 unless you get plenty of sun exposure. In that case, use adequate sunscreen to prevent skin malignancies.

I'm unaware of a need for magnesium supplements when a normal diet is consumed unless certain medical diagnoses are present.

54 posted on 01/09/2004 10:38:36 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: cyborg
"People celebrating their neanderthal heritage :D "

Oooh. I'm in love with Nicole Kidman...what a Neanderthal, huh? (BTW, my son looks like her ex-husband, Tom Cruise...he is FReeper 'charge carrier', go look.)

55 posted on 01/09/2004 10:40:52 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Where's your son been lately?? He does look like Tom Cruise.
56 posted on 01/09/2004 10:52:59 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Piltdown_Woman
I'm one half Norwegian and I get chilled easily... however, I love Lutefisk!
57 posted on 01/09/2004 11:10:09 AM PST by ruoflaw
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To: raynearhood
Have you, by the way, read THE MIS MEASURE OF MAN by Stephen Gould, it has a lot to say about the subject you originally posted from one of the leading evolutionist minds of the past 50 years.

No, and I doubt I'll have enough interest or time to indulge in Dr. Gould unless it's clinically applicable. Darwin's theory works for me as far as antibiotic resistant organisms and the clinically appropriate use of antibiotics.

As a practical matter, why or how these genetic mutations occur doesn't matter to me, other than to note that they happened, unless it relates to my concern with the consequences in society as a whole or the patients I encounter.

58 posted on 01/09/2004 11:28:59 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: ruoflaw
The true test of ethnic solidarity
59 posted on 01/09/2004 11:30:48 AM PST by cyborg
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To: neverdem
Well, if it works for you....
60 posted on 01/09/2004 11:32:26 AM PST by raynearhood
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To: cyborg
I know a guy that spent a year studying archaeology in Scottland and he just loved Haggis...but I just don't think I could eat it much less look at it!
61 posted on 01/09/2004 11:36:07 AM PST by ruoflaw
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To: cyborg
"Where's your son been lately?? "

He doesn't come onto FR very often. He's a space scientists in SOCAL.(PhD physics). My only child.

62 posted on 01/09/2004 11:43:47 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
If I was a space scientist I'm sure I'd be busy too. Understood!
63 posted on 01/09/2004 11:45:06 AM PST by cyborg
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To: PatrickHenry
"Shocking. How can this be? The creationists keep insisting that all mutations are harmful."

Actually, that is incorrect, sir. Just that where there are beneficial mutations there has never been, nor is mathematically possible to have, enough subsequent beneficial mutations to actually cause any adaptive species change. A dog is a dog is a dog, and never will be otherwise.

"By analyzing the changes in the DNA, they have been able to distinguish positive mutations, those selected because they are good or adaptive, from negative or harmful mutations. In today's issue of the journal Science, they report that several lineages of mitochondrial DNA show signs of positive selection."

Another thing of which one must be careful. Beneficial mutations occurring are often presented as fact when it is, in fact, the extrapolated interpretation of observation by scientists based on the model of science they use. This is called THEORY.
Another scientist could interpret the facts this way:
"By analyzing the changes in the DNA, they have been able to distinguish positive changes, those caused by the specimen's ability to genetically vary within its kind, from negative or harmful mutations."

In the end, neither creationism nor evolutionism is proved or advanced.

Sorry to all.

Present undeniable, observable fact for either side, and I'll bite.
64 posted on 01/09/2004 11:55:53 AM PST by raynearhood
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; El Gato
I frequently scan the Slimes science section. I can't believe they didn't can this story. Sometimes I'll post their articles when I see something that's worth the trouble of posting. I ping you when I do unless you Freepmail me otherwise. No offense would be taken.
65 posted on 01/09/2004 5:26:14 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Unmentioned here is a very interesting point about mitochondrial evolution. The mutations are transmitted infallibly from mother to child, and not shuffled with the chromosomes. The concepts "dominant" and "recessive" don't apply. This allows for more efficient selective pressure, but only acting through females.
66 posted on 01/09/2004 6:54:43 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: neverdem
If it's not too much trouble, I would appreciate your adding me to your ping list. Thanks.
67 posted on 01/10/2004 3:09:52 AM PST by JudyB1938 (God has such a sense of humor. He moved me to CLINTON, Arkansas.)
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To: neverdem
Very interesting!

Please add me to your ping list, thanks!
68 posted on 01/10/2004 10:55:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: neverdem
Great article, thanks for posting it.

NFP

69 posted on 01/12/2004 7:54:22 AM PST by Notforprophet ("You can have a nanny state if you prefer. But not for long." - Mark Steyn)
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Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

Please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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70 posted on 07/25/2005 9:35:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: neverdem

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71 posted on 06/17/2009 4:14:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv; Travis McGee; El Gato; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for resurrecting the thread, SunkenCiv. See comment# 65. It started my health & science ping list. JudyB1938 and fourdeuce82d have passed away. fourdeuce82d and I were in the same heavy mortar platoon, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division in the early 1980s.


There's supposed to be a handle on that flaming sword. I didn't notice one at the link.

The early airborne divisions included glider infantry regiments. Don't ask me what's the difference between a brigade and brigade combat team. Army combat brigades were always mixes of combat arms battalions, i.e. infantry and artillery and maybe armor(tanks), plus support troops.

Effects of Purifying and Adaptive Selection on Regional Variation in Human mtDNA

A phylogenetic analysis of 1125 global human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequences permitted positioning of all nucleotide substitutions according to their order of occurrence. The relative frequency and amino acid conservation of internal branch replacement mutations was found to increase from tropical Africa to temperate Europe and arctic northeastern Siberia. Particularly highly conserved amino acid substitutions were found at the roots of multiple mtDNA lineages from higher latitudes. These same lineages correlate with increased propensity for energy deficiency diseases as well as longevity. Thus, specific mtDNA replacement mutations permitted our ancestors to adapt to more northern climates, and these same variants are influencing our health today.

If you want to register, not subscribe, you can access the whole article. I posted the article as breaking news. They made it chat!

I corrected the spelling in my tagline since then. In Vietnamese it means I'm sorry sweetheart.

72 posted on 06/17/2009 8:40:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem

Well...this is new to me.,...thanks for the revival.


73 posted on 06/17/2009 9:38:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: neverdem

Interesting post, neverdem. Thanks for the ping.


74 posted on 06/18/2009 2:11:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (...those who make non-violent revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- JFK (Iran))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yet another way is hot cocoa. :’)


75 posted on 06/18/2009 6:12:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

Glad I could do it.


76 posted on 06/18/2009 6:16:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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the classics never wear out:
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

77 posted on 06/22/2010 2:22:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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