Skip to comments.Move Over Boomers -- Gen-X And Gen-Y in the Coming Decades <p>
Posted on 01/25/2004 3:22:20 AM PST by meadsjn
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Yeah. It couldn't have worked better if they had planned it that way.
Only a handful of our elected politicians even pretend to represent the best interests of "ourselves and our posterity". Most of them advocate and implement policies that are clearly detrimental to the survival of the nation and its people. Why? Why are they amassing public debt that can only leave future generations fiscally crippled? Why are they opening up the borders, driving down incomes and causing record numbers of home foreclosures and personal bankruptcies? Why do they look the other way as the wealth and productive capacity of the nation is outsourced to foreign countries that are not even our allies? Why do they steadfastly refuse to reform the regulations and taxation that have driven our industries off shore and caused the unemployment of millions of Americans? Why do our policies regularly discriminate against the productive people of this nation and reward the miscreants? And the big question is: why do the people keep electing these same people over and over? And when will they ever just go away?
I kind of know why, Because there is only 10 things on Baby Boomer's minds Me,Me,Me,Me,Me and Now, Now, Now, Now, Now
There is hope, and it is not to be found in the leadership and policies of the destructive Boomers and Silents that have already brought us to the point of disaster. In a few short years, the Boomers and their elders will be irrelevant to the course of the nation, other than forever bearing the blame for its near destruction.
I disagree with the time frame, The baby boomers are entrenched in positions of power for at least another 10-20 years with more good intention feel good programs to come, Especially in light of the fact that many lived for the moment and haven't saved and we be in the workforce longer than usual. But you are right the Boomers have already secured their place as the Worst Generation in the history of the USA.
There is little doubt where we are in the current cycle if the patterns of history hold true, and there is absolutely no reason to believe we are exempt from the powerful forces of generational shifts that have occurred with stunning regularity for centuries.
I agree though it worse now because never has there been a generation like the Baby Boomers so bent on destroying all the institutions that made America great. A case can be made the "Flappers" of the 20's that lead to the Great Depression were bad but they weren't out there attempting to undermine the country. You have to go back all the way to the end of the Roman Empire to find a Generation and leaders that are as decadent as the modern day Baby Boomers.
In Rome for every Nero and Commodus there was always a Trajan or Severus to follow them to clean up the mess until the very end where the people that could have saved Rome like an Aetius were assassinated by their jealous emperors. In the US for every James Buchanan and Jimmy Carter there was a Lincoln or Reagan to follow to clean up the mess. I am really hoping that continues and we get great Gen-X leaders to come in and pick up the pieces, Lord knows there will be no leaders out of the baby boomers to do it. And though while unlike in Ancient Rome I don't think elitist Baby Boomers will be physically assassinating Gen-Xers but through their hold on the media and academia they will be character assassinating anyone attempting to undo the status quo.
Boomers created this. They must fix it.
Ditto and worth repeating. They have done enough already.
This even includes Republican Boomers. It should come to no surprise to anyone that the current crop of Republicans in power right now turned out to be big disappointments (to say the least) because after all they are baby boomers and just because a Baby Boomer has a "R" after their name why would we expect them to act or think any different from the rest of that terrible generation.
Business leaders of the last two decades have set records in their quest to lead once prosperous and stable companies to ruin, likewise leaving formerly prosperous and stable communities in ruins. ..Throughout the last two decades, businesses tried on every management and technical fad that came down the pike, with little regard to whether the experiments added real benefit to their processes or bottom line.
Again I agree. The Baby Boomers like they did with government have destroyed corporate America by instituting massive bureaucracies filled with useless (but highly paid) people. Today you have high paid corporate trainers, Motivation speakers, efficiency experts (that are anything but), Quality Assurance Engineers, Concept designers and their ilk infecting corporations from the top down. All they do is have endless meetings and stifle production and innovation with their nonsense.
I am utterly amazed we can even compete at the level we do.
On a side note, I would advocate the death penalty for the person who came up with the whole concept of "Teams"
The major disconnect among the Boomers, especially the liberals, is that they are incapable of acknowledging the results of their actions. Their intentions are all that matter to them. Whenever one of their hair-brained ideas produces undesirable results, their solution is another even more hair-brained idea.
True enough, But more often or not they look for scapegoats for their failures usually in the form of they need more money. Like Education for example, Even though we spend more money (even adjusted for inflation) per pupil on education than we every did before the Liberal Boomers still consistently claim we need even more.
I sense you are feeling some hostility, and that can be a destructive element in our efforts to reach consensus. We need to work through these feelings and return to a level of discourse where we can discuss the issues of cognitive conflict between us. :)
You are right, I will take a "Time out" and then first thing in the morning I will go to my doctor and get on Ritalin and then sign myself up for self esteem classes and sensitivity training.
You are correct that many of the Boomer-aged people have been conservative all along. I count myself among those.
Irving Krystol, who supposedly coined the term "neocon", admitted in a recent article that the neo-conservative movement started when less extreme liberals became disillusioned with some their more extreme comrades. These are the Boomer elitists who wear the Republican label and dominate the RNC and Republican organizations at the state and county levels. They despise conservatives but will tolerate them long enough to get their votes. Their beliefs are slightly to the right of the Democrats but far from being conservative.
GW Bush has done a fine job in the war on terror, and I much prefer him to any of the other possibilities. I disagree with him on the immigration and unfair trade issues.
My point about the Republican party was that there is little to gain from party cheerleading when the party itself is slipping so far into liberal territory. Third parties are no help, but there will be room for another major party once the Democrat machine is utterly defeated. The neo-cons are going to keep a death-grip on the RNC and they will continue moving left.
It is not too early to start encouraging younger conservatives to prepare to counteract those moves, either by exerting more influence in the Republican party or by looking ahead toward a better alternative.
And don't just blame a few liberal elitist boomers, It wasn't just liberal elitist boomers who had all those abortions, all those divorces, grabbed all those guns, Passed all those health/safety initiatives, Put their careers over their children and latch keyed them and ruined education. With a little exception it was the whole bunch of you.
But, while we made mistakes, we also pushed the envelope with successes in science, exploration, the environment, education, engineering, health, etc., etc
No you didn't, Like everything else the baby boomers have corrupted science for their own purposes. Instead of in the past where they came up with antibiotics and cures for things like Polio today we get useless junk like Global warming, How food from McDonalds is addicting, How smokers are more likely to allow their children to stand up in shopping carts, etc, etc. Not a day goes by that we aren't bombarded with more of these silly studies on how something innocent will harm/kill you and/or make you do bad things. In the past scientist worked on things for the future betterment of mankind, Today Baby Boomer scientist work on things for the future betterment of lawsuits and more regulations. If you baby boomers spent just 1/10 the resources you spent on your junk science on something meaningful we would probably already have a cure for cancer and cold fusion and much more by now.
As for the environment, Don't make me laugh. Baby Boomers are only for saving the Environment when it hurt a corporation or America. Which is why there hasn't been a new nuclear power plant build in the past 25 years and why there is all this protest against GMOs. As for those gadgets, Well it might have been the baby boomers, But not the ones in America but the ones in Japan and Korea(if they have such a designation) that came up with them. When's the last time a TV has been made in the USA.
The internet, Well sorry that's ours. Computers and the internet have existed since the 60's but it wasn't until the new entrapanuer ial spirt of the Gen-Xers got a hold of them that they became what they are today. And it is this way by bringing computers and the internet into mainstream that Gen-X has already surpassed the Boomers (who have overall been a net drain on the country) in making positive contributions to United States and the world.
I have no idea what happened there
No, To quote previously
"This anger towards the baby boomers is different from the past. In the past previous hostility between generations usually faded away as the younger generation matured. In today's case, I see the opposite happening with hostility toward the older baby boomers growing as the X & Ys age. The reason is because we have been propagandized during school and in the media on how great the 60s were and how enlightened the baby boomers are and it's not until we age that we start to see the damage to this country they and their "good intentions" have done. They are in power now and I feel in order to go forward we have to break the "Myth" of the baby boomers which would help in starting to get them out of power and undoing the damage they done."
With me it's not that I am a young whippersnapper complaining about the older generations because I have the up most respect for the WWII generation. Yes they weren't perfect and did start the ball rolling on these socialist programs and way of thinking but at least they did something like save the world from fascism and unlike the baby boomers they weren't actively working to undo all the institutions and the Constitution that made America great.
Here is one Baby Boomer I can respect take on your generation.
Click the audio link on the site (It takes about 1:50 before he gets into it), Even Rush in referring to the Baby Boomers calls them "A group I am ashamed to be a part of"
BTW. Baby Boomers shouldn't be the one to talk about not respecting the older generations since Baby Boomers even to this day have always thought of the WWII generation as a bunch of uneducated simpletons.
The difficulty might be in getting them pointed in a constructive direction. In fact, you guys will probably lay out your own path. By now you all should have a background in team building, diversity, and sensitivity skills sufficient to temper the more extreme tendencies of the age group.
Neither did I. And mine is for the same purpose.
The oldest Gen-Xers were first elegible to vote in 1982. They were statistically insignificant in Clinton's elections. If you look at the population numbers year to year, you will see that they become more significant as the years roll by.
FDR was a disaster for the country, economically and politically. Without his big government meddling, the people of the US could have gotten the economy rolling again. As it was, the economy was restarted by the buildup for and during WW-II, in spite of FDR's policies. Democrats dominated the body politic for the rest of the century, the Democrat's pet projects generally produced dismal results. The post WW-II high was accomplished by the drive of the returning WW-II Heros, and during that time the liberals had to go along to get along. The real problems started in the sixties when the Boomers came of age.
Sir/Ms/Ma'am...this statement is moronic. It undermines any desire you may have to engage in a logical and thoughtful dialogue.
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