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Mel Gibson tackles addiction, recovery and the controversies over new film
ABC News ^ | 16 February 2004

Posted on 02/16/2004 1:37:39 PM PST by Hal1950

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To: harbingr
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HATE killed JESUS and lost.

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21 posted on 02/16/2004 7:50:17 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Canadian Outrage
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...MEL GIBSON is...

...Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE..

...in the .."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...Battle in the Valley of Death that was the IA DRANG of 1965


http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com
http://www.lzxray.com



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(IA DRANG-1965 Photos)

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22 posted on 02/16/2004 7:55:33 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Wow, neat! I LOVED that show "We were Soldiers". I also LOVED the film "The Patriot". Thanks for the links.
23 posted on 02/16/2004 8:01:47 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage
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...T'was All in GOD's Plan, CO...

...All in His Plan.


ALOHA

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24 posted on 02/16/2004 8:23:34 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Mel Gibson is (or was) a member of the John Birch Society and has one of the magazine covers for their magazine, "The New American" on the wall of his apt in the movie "Conspiracy Theory."

I just saw the interview with Diane Sawyer and felt that she exhibited a look of true HORROR throughout the interview. Such is the look of evil when confronted with the unmitigated truth and love as presented in the Gospels. My prediction: Liberals will continue to try and vilify this film and just won't understand why they're unsuccessful. I'd love to see what Ann Coulter has to say about their efforts.

25 posted on 02/16/2004 8:25:32 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Sure was. Obviously the Holy Spirit was "dealing" with Mel for sometime. But your right, God had Mel picked out many years ago.
26 posted on 02/16/2004 8:33:33 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Someone can make some money here if they come out with T-shirts that say, "I killed Jesus..." on the front and "...with my sin." on the back.

Sort of flies in the face, though, of Jesus saying that no man takes his life from, that he has the power to lay it down and the power to take it up again. He chose to die on account of our sins, but our sins didn't kill him.
27 posted on 02/16/2004 8:36:20 PM PST by aruanan
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To: ExSoldier
NEVER FORGET


Diane Sawyer helped send Little ELIAN back to Communist Cuba =


'ELIAN's -Cold Dead Eyes- in Cuba'


http://www.Freerepublic.com/forum/a395a99a7020f.htm


NEVER FORGET
28 posted on 02/16/2004 8:40:33 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Someone can make some money here if they come out with T-shirts that say, "I killed Jesus..." on the front and "...with my sin." on the back.

I don't reccomend you wear one around El Paso, Corpus Cristi or Houston....Likely not San Diego or Tucson, neither....

29 posted on 02/16/2004 9:04:17 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: ExSoldier
'I just saw the interview with Diane Sawyer and felt that she exhibited a look of true HORROR throughout the interview. Such is the look of evil when confronted with the unmitigated truth and love as presented in the Gospels. '

Exactly what I was thinking - she also had to interview the liberal Ex-priest...

Here's a recent British education article...
'Children should learn more about atheism and less about Jesus, says Labour think-tank'
By Melissa Kite, Deputy Political Editor Telegraph Group Limited

...Excerpt...
'The teaching of religious education in schools should be renamed spiritual education, with children being taught more about atheism and less about the life of Jesus and the 10 Commandments, according to the Government's favourite think-tank.
The lessons should be widened to include "non-religious belief systems", a report by the Institute For Public Policy Research says. It calls for equal weight to be given to agnosticism and humanism as is given to Christianity...

30 posted on 02/16/2004 9:13:17 PM PST by harbingr (and, of course..'Children should be taught about Cults, Paganism, and Environmentalism...')
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Mel, gets it."

. . .and Dianne does not. . .

Seems pretty clear that the anti-Jew/anti-semite baiting they claim Mel is guilty of is actually being promulgated by the Lib Media themselves.

Surprise NOT, of course.

31 posted on 02/16/2004 9:26:09 PM PST by cricket
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To: Canadian Outrage
Yes, but he is a willing vessel now. Mel Rocks!!!
32 posted on 02/16/2004 10:44:01 PM PST by Lawdoc
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sargent Major hand out the last of the ammunition - delay.. fix bayonets - charge

I really don't care what any one here has to say about this man.

All i Have to say is I need to see his new movie!
33 posted on 02/16/2004 10:56:10 PM PST by ezo4
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To: Lawdoc
I also loved his comment about wanting to be left alone by "pitching his tent by the WMDs so that nobody would ever find (him)" the man is funny!
34 posted on 02/16/2004 11:41:52 PM PST by Lawdoc
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To: ExSoldier; ALOHA RONNIE

Here's what Michael Savage has to say about "The Passion":

The Capture of Jesus choreographed in Kurosawa-esque movements.

The ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Latin linguistics.

A must for every Christian and Jew; every rebel, independent, iconoclast who has felt the blunt steel of rejection, isolation, humiliation, or castigation.

As for portraying Jews in a negative light - a resounding NO! That is, for rational educated people. There is always the fear that bigots will use this film as they might use any pretext to advance their hateful agenda. The wild card question is: How will radical Muslims use this film? Will they seek to turn Christians against Jews?

During the trial of Jesus, two ancient Hebrew Judges who loudly claim the hearing biased are boldly thrown from the court. The biased judges do not want to hear the opinion that Jesus is innocent of the charges against him. Good Jews. Fair Jews. Bad Jews. Biased Jews.

Good Romans. Bad Romans. Like today, in historical context. A passion play about faith and fear, the blessed and the cursed.

The loyal and traitorous. For everyone who has craved a portrait of living biblical history, there has never been a more accurate portrayal.

The Judas-tree scene alone is worth the price of admission. Both for its dramatic content as for its moral imperative. For every parent wanting to instill moral values in a child, The Passion can be a good teacher.

But we mustn't run from the most pregnant question. Some Jewish organizations have legitimate fears that this remarkable work of art might instigate hatred against the Jewish people. We cannot predict what demented bigots might do nor should we permit them to dictate the terms of our civilization and its artistic creations.

How is it that the most vile films imaginable are being made with little or no protest from the very same organizations attacking Gibson's artistic creation.

Murder, Rape, Drug Usage - all standard fare in a theater near you. No protest about these vile works from these organizations who object to what appears to be 100% biblically correct.

Following the screening of his controversial film, Mr. Gibson asked me what I thought of it. I said, "Of course there are going to be those who are going to look to blame the Jewish people, but it is the Romans who flay Jesus nearly to death and who actually crucify him." I added, "Mel, what are people going to do, stop eating pasta!" There was then much laughter all around the boardroom. But I repeat, are people to stop eating Italian food because of Pontius Pilate and the Roman sadists? It would be foolish to think so.

Link to article: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/savagepassion.html


35 posted on 02/16/2004 11:55:59 PM PST by ppaul
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To: Hal1950
BUMP
36 posted on 02/16/2004 11:56:42 PM PST by ppaul
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To: ExSoldier
I saw the interview too, and thought the same.

I made special concessions to see the interview, and wasnot disappointed!!

Way to go Mel, thanks for your honesty, your humility, and the Gift that God gave you.

37 posted on 02/16/2004 11:59:48 PM PST by PurVirgo (Here's a tip - Never weedeat the dog pen with your mouth open)
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To: Sloth; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
Yeah, because in reality, lashings followed by crucifixion were a relatively peaceful affair,involving minor discomfort and minimal bleeding. Why is Mel trying to porray it as such a bad thing?

EXCELLENT point well made....... but you forgot the /sarcasm> tag....

FReegards,

David C. Osborne - Autobiography

38 posted on 02/17/2004 2:32:38 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
BTTT!!!!!!
39 posted on 02/17/2004 3:05:39 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: ExSoldier
I just saw the interview with Diane Sawyer and felt that she exhibited a look of true HORROR throughout the interview. Such is the look of evil when confronted with the unmitigated truth and love as presented in the Gospels. My prediction: Liberals will continue to try and vilify this film and just won't understand why they're unsuccessful.

You are absolutely right. Diane Sawyer looked at Gibson throughout the interview as if he were a madman and acted appalled at his responses to her.

40 posted on 02/17/2004 3:37:26 AM PST by TennTuxedo
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