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The Guild 3-3-2004 Political Ghost Story
Post Gazette ^ | Dennis Roddy

Posted on 03/03/2004 5:11:05 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It happened at the annual Lincoln Day Dinner of the Allegheny County Republican Party, March 20, 1991, at the William Penn Hotel.

At the time the first George Bush was still flush with victory in the Persian Gulf, and dinnergoers chortled over a videotaped presentation of assorted senate Democrats backpedaling in the wake of a war they'd opposed. Ted Kennedy was shown. News clips were shown. But for Kerry, the speaker simply read the two letters, to everyone's amazement.


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1 posted on 03/03/2004 5:11:06 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer; Timeout; ClancyJ; BlessedAmerican; daisyscarlett; Rheo; ...
Good Morning!
2 posted on 03/03/2004 5:11:38 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: mountaineer
Bringing over your post from the last thread.

John Fonda Kerry's New York Times connection, story here.

3 posted on 03/03/2004 5:15:11 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty; All
What the heck, I'm feeling tabloidish. Must be the lack of sleep. Anyway, I've checked out a NY gossip site called "gawker stalker," where New Yawkers send in celebrity sightings, and have been getting some chuckles from stuff like this:

Please note: by popular demand, Ian Klaus, paramour of Chelsea Clinton, is hereby banned from Gawker Stalker. ...

· just saw chelsea clinton wandering around the measly produce section at the 22nd and park avenue associated supermarket looking all sorts of dowdy and confused in her sidwell friends sweatshirt as she gazed at the red peppers. following her around was her greasy-haired boyfriend looking pretty smug as he saw me notice her. [Ed. HIS NAME MUST NOT BE SPOKEN. AND AVERT YOUR EYES.] ....

· "I just ate lunch at Angelika’s Kitchen and Senator John Kerry was there. He had bread with spread and some steamed vegetables and tofu. Took a fig bar to go. [What, no Philly cheesesteak?] ....

· "I sat next to Betsey Johnson (designer) at Pastis in the meat packing district. She was with two obvious sycophants who were drooling all over her, despite the fact that she looked beyond horrid in a multicolored coat that looked like a leprechaun had vomited on it. She had terrible hair with nylon-looking extensions and black raccoon eye makeup. Didn't smell great either." ....

· "8:45 am today saw Monica Lewinsky at the 26th St. flea market (she shops there fairly often). looks a hell of a lot better after the make-up and clothing people get through with her on mr. personality. either that or the director and camera people are doing a terrific job" ....

4 posted on 03/03/2004 5:29:43 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: All
Here's another offering from a Gawker reader:

Maybe I'm not reading the sarcasm in your item about young Ms. Clinton, but all I know is that at the college I went to she once came for a weekend to visit her then-boyfriend. The [identity] of her boyfriend was interesting, because:

· He was a cokehead, and
· He was gay.

Yes, she was there; I saw her with my own two eyes, with the supposed boyfriend. At any rate, it raises a few interesting questions, doesn't it?

5 posted on 03/03/2004 5:33:52 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I saw a story about Chelz in the Gawker Stalker a few days ago but now I can't find it. It said that Chelz was walking into her office, her hair straight, business suit and looked so regular the Stalker almost didn't notice her.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Kerry excited at win - bites Teresa's head off.

6 posted on 03/03/2004 6:19:48 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I've discovered who will play Horse in the next Dudley Do Right movie.

Six-year-old Iris Kerry Kaler, left, notices her uncle, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) on television while watching polling returns with Peggy Kerry, John Kerry's sister, Tuesday, March 2, 2004 in New York. Supporters had plenty to celebrate after hearing news that opponent Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) had dropped out of the race. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

7 posted on 03/03/2004 6:35:31 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
My favorite from last night..

PLEASE HELP ME I'M FALLING....

Vanesa Kerry (2nd L), daughter of Democratic presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (D-MA), (C), reacts as Teresa Heinz Kerry appears to lose her footing when they gathered at the end of a Super Tuesday speech by Kerry at the Old Post Office building in Washington March 2, 2004. REUTERS/Jason Reed US ELECTION REUTERS

8 posted on 03/03/2004 6:51:57 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: mountaineer
Oh my, I think we're gonna have fun with GAWKER-STALKER, lol.

Speaking of Chels, I must say that young lady can sure stretch a dollar...Her salary is "only" $135,000 (reportedly) yet she not only lives in a fancy Manhattan apartment with a uniformed doorman but now she is hiring a public relations firm to hype up her image? Too bad she doesn't read FR. We have offered her many tips in past on how to improve her image, i.e.

1. Do not ever wear bikinis in public. Even if you lose weight, you cannot change your shape.
2. Do not get rip-roaring drunk in public. If you do, no dancing on tabletops at bars.
3. Dump Ian and find a manly looking guy who does not resemble your "daddy".

9 posted on 03/03/2004 7:00:38 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: BigWaveBetty
Looks like Kerry's sister Iris has dental problems too...
10 posted on 03/03/2004 7:01:51 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
I missed it on the tellie last night. :-(

"I believe this administration just helped overthrow, basically overthrow, a democratically elected president," Vanessa Kerry, 27, said during a campaign stop at Stony Brook University. "We basically, in our silence, allowed him to be deposed."

Basically bless her heart.

11 posted on 03/03/2004 7:02:30 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: daisyscarlett
Oops forgot to say "Bless Her Heart"...
12 posted on 03/03/2004 7:02:35 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: All
Terror in France:

Paris-AP -- The French government admits it's being blackmailed by a terrorist group.

France says the group is threatening to blow up railway tracks within days unless it's paid millions of dollars in ransom.

The group identifies itself as A-Z-F -- the same initials as those of a chemical factory that exploded three years ago in southern France.

Government officials are taking the threat seriously. Last month, they found explosives buried in a rail-bed in central France.

The government had asked the media not to report the blackmail effort, to protect negotiation attempts with the terrorist group.

But the story leaked out, and is being confirmed by the Interior Ministry.

More Frenchie news:

PARIS, March 2 (AFP) - Families of British, German and French prisoners held at the US Guantanamo Bay detention camp will travel to the United States this week to appeal to the president for their release, a French politician said Tuesday.

Urging stronger French action to obtain their release, communist parliamentary deputy Andre Gerina told journalists: "We want the French authorities to end their embarrassed silence.

"The seven Frenchmen held illegally in Guantanamo must be allowed to return home to France." [What a good idea in light of terrorists holding France hostage and all]

Gerina is also mayor of Venissieux, home town of two French detainees, Mourad Benchellali and Nizar Sassi.

Gerina will travel this Saturday to Washington DC with Sassi's family, together with three British families and one German family on a trip organised by the Commission for Guantanamo Human Rights, recently set up in London.

Former British hostage in Lebanon Terry Waite [???] will be in the group, which will also visit United Nations headquarters in New York.

British actor Corin Redgrave, brother of the actress Vanessa Redgrave, who helped to set up the prisoners' rights group, told journalists here the delegation would submit families' letters to the White House and address an appeal directly to President George W. Bush on the prisoners' fate.

The team is also planning to meet Democratic Party presidential hopeful John Kerry, who has criticised the US-led invasion of Iraq.[Yipeee! More bad news for Kerry]

"Our message is very simple," Redgrave told journalists: "America has given the world a model of democracy which is founded on the rule of law, on fundamantal human rights, including the right to fair trial, the right to silence."

"Guantanamo offers an alternative model to the world, a model where no rights are sustained."

He warned of the danger that Guantanamo would be a model for more and more countries to copy.

About 660 men have been detained at the Guantanamo US naval base, most of them captured in Afghanistan since the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001.

So far, 88 detainees have been released and 12 have been transferred to their home countries for continued detention.

Attorneys of two of the Frenchmen held noted that British, Russian and Danish detainees had been released, but the French prisoners were still being held.

"The French government has distinguished itself by complete inaction," said lawyer Jacques Debray: "Although no charges have been preferred against the French, there is no indication of their early release."

A second lawyer, William Bourdon, suggested the French prisoners might be "collateral damage" in strains in French-US relations after France criticised the invasion of Iraq.

13 posted on 03/03/2004 7:19:32 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: daisyscarlett
You'd think with all the money Kerry has, er, uh.... Teresa has, Kerry could afford to fix his sister's teeth.
14 posted on 03/03/2004 7:22:28 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
I found this letter interesting. I also try to avoid nipple ripping.


15 posted on 03/03/2004 7:34:21 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Notice the enthusiastic crowd.

16 posted on 03/03/2004 7:45:57 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
On Rush's update this a.m., he basically said Vanessa basically was basically an idiot. Um, you know.
17 posted on 03/03/2004 8:41:33 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Bug update:

Terminix just left and, yes, they're termites (yikes!) but not the bad Formosan kind. Just your basic, nasty, insomnia-inducing termites. The good news is he said

A) we caught them very early because the studs still feel surprisingly strong. And

B) I shouldn't worry about them travelling sideways and getting into my hardwood floors. They always travel straight up, meaning they're likely confined to the one little corner in the laundry from which they swarmed.

Now I (and you) know more than we never wanted to know about termites. Bah!
18 posted on 03/03/2004 9:08:48 AM PST by Timeout
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To: BigWaveBetty
Notice the enthusiastic crowd.

Ugh. That's my regular senator. Gag, spit.

19 posted on 03/03/2004 9:22:13 AM PST by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty
"We basically, in our silence, allowed him to be deposed."

Um, like, Vanessa, the Central African prez is telling Aristide to shut up. Like, basically, silence, you know.

20 posted on 03/03/2004 9:24:25 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Timeout
We had those critters when we moved in. Fortunately, they also had confined themselves to one little corner. The treatments are so darned expensive!
21 posted on 03/03/2004 10:03:12 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer

Jury Deliberates Martha Stewart's Fate


Anyone else notice the resemblance?

22 posted on 03/03/2004 10:30:32 AM PST by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty
Vanessa has the dearest profile, for one running in the 5th race at Del Mar ;-)
23 posted on 03/03/2004 10:55:03 AM PST by habs4ever
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To: mountaineer
The treatments were so darned expensive!

My bond with Termite is only $128 a year. If you don't have one, the initial expense can be high, but the annual is usually reasonable.

The bond covers annual inspections and treatments. I mistakenly believed that meant I wouldn't get termites. Now I understand that it is simply insurance for treating an infestation and repairing any damage. (He told me there's no way to avoid an infestation, it's just a matter of luck.)

24 posted on 03/03/2004 11:04:00 AM PST by Timeout
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"Termite" = Terminix
25 posted on 03/03/2004 11:04:50 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout; mountaineer; Endeavor; BigWaveBetty; Carolina; pubmom; Fintan; Iowa Granny; Teacup
The new Bush ads are tearjerkers and very effective.

Bush Ads

26 posted on 03/03/2004 12:02:45 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Wow! Laura is gorgeous in the "Lead" spot.

Teared up with "Safer, Stronger."

27 posted on 03/03/2004 12:14:04 PM PST by Carolina
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To: daisyscarlett
#8 is pretty sad.
28 posted on 03/03/2004 12:27:56 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: habs4ever
... and it's Vanessa Kerry trailing by two lengths, with Toothpaste squeezed out along the rail ...
29 posted on 03/03/2004 1:03:51 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Here's a great shot I found on gwb.com.

Just one of the many reasons I appreciate our president, his subtle, wry humor. It comes in so many ways, like this picture. :-)

30 posted on 03/03/2004 1:31:17 PM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: Carolina
Ugh. That's my regular senator. Gag, spit.

Both of my sentors will make a person gag and spit. At least yours is easy on the eyes, as long as he keeps his mouth shut.

31 posted on 03/03/2004 1:42:08 PM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
What is Kennedy and that other guy doing behind Bush? Did Gepetto cut their puppet strings?
32 posted on 03/03/2004 1:44:35 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank you very, very much for fixing the thread title.
33 posted on 03/03/2004 1:55:17 PM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Looks like their batteries wore out.
34 posted on 03/03/2004 2:09:55 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: TheSpottedOwl
#8 is pretty sad.

Isn't it though...here this 65 year old lady is falling down and nobody is doing anything, save for the one daughter who looks upset but is doing nothing. Meanwhile, the hubby, is totally oblivious...

35 posted on 03/03/2004 4:46:57 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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A look at possible Democratic nominees for vice president in the 2004 election: top row from left, former Democratic presidential hopeful retired Gen. Wesley Clark, New York Senator and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; bottom row from left, former Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., former Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., Sen. Mary Landrieu , D-La., Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark. (AP Photo/Files)

36 posted on 03/03/2004 5:01:52 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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More possibilities:

A look at possible Democratic nominees for vice president in the 2004 election: top row from left, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, Sen. Bill Nelson, R-Fla.; Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO Franklin Raines, and Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell; bottom row from left, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, and Virginia Gov. Mark Warner. (AP Photo/Files)

37 posted on 03/03/2004 5:10:55 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
And it's not even her daughter! That reminds me - I thought we read that Teresa's sons were helping out their stepfather's campaign, but have we seen them anywhere?
38 posted on 03/03/2004 5:18:08 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: daisyscarlett
possible Democratic nominees for vice president

Possible? In whose universe? I mean really, Landrieu and Rendell? LOL!

39 posted on 03/03/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
THIS is a great column:
Let's just be blunt: The North Koreans would love to see John Kerry win the election. The mullahs of Iran would love it. The Syrian Ba'athists would sigh with relief. Every enemy of America would take great satisfaction if the electorate rejects the Bush doctrine and scuttles back to hide under the U.N. Security Council's table. It's a hard question, but the right one: Which candidate does our enemy want to lose? George W. Bush.

And some conservatives will be happy to help, it seems.

____________________________

I sure never thought of James Lileks as a conservative. Guess I was wrong.

40 posted on 03/03/2004 6:57:09 PM PST by Timeout
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To: mountaineer
I know a lot of you don't subscribe to the NY Times. But there's a blockbuster article just posted on their website which I assume will lead their front page tomorrow.

It's about a hugely successful intelligence effort and how we tracked al Queda operatives through some tiny Swiss cell phone chips. It involved many countries cooperating in surveillance operations. The operation is winding down now because the terrorists have changed their methods. This doesn't sound like a leak. It's very well sourced.

It gave me goosebumps reading it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/04/international/europe/04PHON.html?hp
41 posted on 03/03/2004 7:23:56 PM PST by Timeout
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To: mountaineer
I thought we read that Teresa's sons were helping out their stepfather's campaign, but have we seen them anywhere?

That is her youngest son Chris (age 30) in #8 on the right. He and Vanessa Kerry are very active in the campaign and head some college group for Kerry. Her oldest son, John Heinz Jr., shuns the limelight and is, in fact, a teacher and has a**gasp** job and is married with a kid. The middle son, Andre, heads some environmental group so I am sure he will show up at some point.

42 posted on 03/03/2004 7:58:20 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
The New York Times had an article/editorial/barf inducing article today, touting Bill Clinton for VP. I almost lost my lunch. He could fix lots of stuff like the economy, Middle East, gay marriage, jobs, and the stock market because he has experience. I was at my desk, or I would have lost it and yelled at the screen. The writer just waved off the 22nd amendment too, apparently he thinks that is OK if Billy boy is the VP and becomes president again, the 22nd amendment doesn't count.
43 posted on 03/03/2004 10:30:19 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Article XXII to the Constitution says:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Dems would argue that "ineligible" only refers to the initial age and citizenship requirements.

Looks like another case ripe for Dem chicanery...all the way to the Supreme Court.

44 posted on 03/04/2004 3:10:29 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Utah Girl
Woo Hoo! Karen Hughes is back facing the cameras on GWB's behalf. I'm watching her now on Fox & Friends. I hope this is a sign she's going to be around for the whole campaign.
45 posted on 03/04/2004 4:25:32 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Hughes and Rove...J F'n Kerry, be veerrrryy afraid.

Off to church to cook for a very large dinner tonight. Have a good day, everyone.

46 posted on 03/04/2004 4:27:28 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Timeout
Cellphones have played a major role in the constant jousting between terrorists and intelligence agencies. In their requests for more investigative powers, Attorney General John Ashcroft and other officials have repeatedly cited the importance of monitoring portable phones.

But, but... that violates their privacy rights! That evil John Ascroft just wants to suppress people's rights! /sarcasm

Btw, Karen Hughs is back on the job! :-)

47 posted on 03/04/2004 4:34:32 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: Timeout
Oops, didn't see your post before I hit the button. So glad Karen is back in the saddle again!

John Pepe Le Pew Kerry came to Orlando yesterday and I was able to watch most of the rally on a local news station. Bob Graham droned on for at least a half hour and then Kerry spoke so long that the station broke away ( this is NOT a conservative type station). I laughed because it's not like there's a whole bunch of news happening around here so why pull out? heh heh heh!

And Pepe is a dummy... It's Bike Week in Daytona Beach, which is just an hour drive from Orlando, but Pepe didn't cruise by and check things out. Nothing, zip, zero, nada word about Bike Week and Kerry is supposed to be a big motorcycle guy.

Fool, a visit to Bike Week could have been almost as big an event as President Bush's stop at the Nascar race. In 2003, an estimated 500,000 - 600,000 people came for Bike Week.

48 posted on 03/04/2004 4:53:00 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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To: BigWaveBetty; *GUILD
Good morning all.

I see John Edwards is out? Well sorta. He suspended his run for president.

Out here everyone is talking about the new Bush ads. Did you know that Bush is exploiting 911 because he has a picture of the American flag over the World Trade center? Oh my gosh!

And!!! He has Laura Bush doing one of his ads? Oh my Gosh! How could he?

Now let me see.................If it were the Clintons we won't be so upset over theses ads, now would we?

Great to see all of you.

49 posted on 03/04/2004 4:58:00 AM PST by Teacup (I'm shocked and awed)
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To: daisyscarlett
A look at possible Democratic nominees for vice president

Oh please, please let it be Wesley Clark!

50 posted on 03/04/2004 5:04:52 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (I want a president who can wrinkle his forehead.)
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