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The Democrats/Media Have to Destroy Condi Rice Now. Here's Why,
none | 3/30/2004 | The South Texan

Posted on 03/30/2004 6:39:31 AM PST by The South Texan

Excuse the vanity, but I have to get this off my chest. There is a reason the media/Democrats are going after Condi Rice in the fashion they have been doing the past week and it has to do with numbers and a women from Arkansas that is now a “resident” in New York.

The numbers are 2008.

And the resident from New York is Hillary Rodam Clinton.

I think the Democrats have concluded that they will lose in November and if the lastest polling info is correct, they may have launched there biggest missile and it has landed a dud. So now the media/Democrat slime machine must destroy somebody else and that is no other than Condi Rice. Why?

Can you imagine if Condi Rice is the nominee of the GOP in 2008? The Democrats could never claim to be the first to nominate an African American as the first to be nominated to head a major party ticket. If she would win, she would also be the first women President which is another blow against the Democrats future claim to history.

And why does Hillary fear her? Because Condi would mop the floor with her in 2008.


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To: Guard Dog
Rice appeals to a lot of Freepers, including me, but I think there are problems with her electability: (1) she has never held an elective office; (2) she is black and there is still a racist element that will vote against her for that reason alone - and some of those people are nominal Republicans; and (3) she is smart in a "brainy" way that scares some people. One reason that the anti-Bork campaign was so successful was that Bork was brainy and serious, and that scared the soccer moms, made him seem sinister rather than smart. And Rice has a little of that Borkian quality that might turn-off some voters.
21 posted on 03/30/2004 7:17:33 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Wombat101
Condi Rice would beat the crusty, black pantsuit off of that carpetbagger and definately clean John Kerry's clock, IMO.

YEAH she would. Just imagine the consternation among the Dem rank and file should Ms. Rice run...and the first serious black female candidate for president (or VP) is nominated by the Republicans! Wouldn't that throw a wrench into the liberal worldview?

I mean, what do you do if you're a solid Al Sharpton voter, and Condi Rice's name is on the ballot? You'd have an ideological nervous breakdown, that's what, because you've believed ever since you became political that the Republicans are the party of the privileged white male.

22 posted on 03/30/2004 7:18:22 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: The South Texan
I think to many people remain focused on Hillary Clinton when it just isn't warranted. She's the "boogieman" under many conservatives "bed".

The poll numbers don't support this weird fixation. Yes, she is a miserable human being. Yes, she's a liar of the first order.

However, she carries the stigma of the Clinton Era with her to this day. Her negative numbers are very near the historical record, her popularity in New York has dropped since 9/11. Its questionable if she will be reelected in the capital of Liberalism, New York.

Throw in the fact that Senator's seldom make sucessful runs for President, anger by many of the NOW crowd that she didn't divorce the Impeached One, and her inability to speak publicly without "losing it" ala Al Gore in "Reverend mode"....sorry, I just don't see her as an ongoing threat, beyond say Teddy "Drown Em" Kennedy, or any other leftwingnut in the Senate.

She simply can't undo the negative ratings concerning her.
23 posted on 03/30/2004 7:18:33 AM PST by Badeye
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To: The South Texan
I agree with Chris. Condi will mop the floor with Clarke. She is telegenic, very smart, fast on the draw, and has the truth on her side. She will come out of this looking very good.

In point of fact, this gives the top Republicans a lot of free air time and access to a large audience. The media usually tries to bury any appearance they make. Now they will have a chance to address the nation, and I think they will give a very favorable impression.

The networks have refused to run some major speeches by Bush on the War on Terror. Here's his chance to show his real strength. And the strength of his chief security aides.
24 posted on 03/30/2004 7:20:56 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Badeye
You overlook that the media almost literally worship Hillary, and that a Hillary candidacy would energize them as they have never been energized before. And they would innoculate her against any criticism by making the point you make - she is a bogeyman for conservatives, and that would just make opposition to her seem reactionary and mean-spirited, strengthening her even more. 90% of the women in the media TOTALLY identify with Hillary, and she would be promoted by the media as no one else has ever been promoted before.
25 posted on 03/30/2004 7:23:46 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: kenth
Personally, I would prefer to see someone other than professional politicians in office. The problem is getting them there. Sadly, that tends to take experience at campaigning.

I am not saying we should ignore '08, but would suggest that it is a ways off yet and we need to look to '04 and '06 first. It would be very dangerous to focus too much energy too far out - trying to prepare for the next battle while the outcome of the current one is still uncertain is a formula for losing both.
26 posted on 03/30/2004 7:27:58 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: Badeye
She simply can't undo the negative ratings concerning her.



As long as Peter Paul and Aaron Tonken are alive, she will never run!
27 posted on 03/30/2004 7:28:05 AM PST by danamco
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To: texasbluebell
I realized after I posted that the story was just breaking. I just saw the other threads on it. Thanks
28 posted on 03/30/2004 7:28:18 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Cicero
The first thing Rice should say is: "For Richard Clarke to have implied that - in early 2001 - I had never heard of al-Quaeda, can only be a deliberate, malicious attempt to assassinate my character; there is no other possible interpretation. I had spoken and written on the topic of al-Quaeda many times prior to 2001. Mr. Clarke owes me an apology."
29 posted on 03/30/2004 7:29:15 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Hold your judgments until after she presents her case to the Commission.

She will surely discredit Clarke's "testimony" (perjury) and vindicate the Bush White house completely. The media will have no room for spin either because of her ability to spell out things so clearly, there will be no double spaces for the media to write any assumptions over the top of her testimony.

Clarke is basing his entire book on the assumption that the President ordered him to fabricate a report to justify a war, based on what he interpreted as a tone of voice or body language. His assumptions were then raised to the level of fact by the media.

Ms. Rice will stun them to the degree that their credibility will be worthless to any future B.S. they try to sell the public from here on out.

30 posted on 03/30/2004 7:31:07 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Careful! Your TAGS are the mirror of your SOUL!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Actually, I consider the liberal media's impact on this. Whats clear is even with that "help" nothing has changed. Her negatives in the polling data remain historical "highs" that will never change (Teddy Kennedy has the exact same problem, for example).

And as we know, the "liberal media" has lost a ton of crediblity with average Americans. Its reached critical mass, which is why the ratings for ABC/CBS/NBC have declined for two decades...with that decline speeding up as more cable news outlets like Fox, and the internet, grew among the masses.

Its common for humans to prepare to fight the last war. I view this in much the same light. The "Clinton Wars" have ended, some just don't realize it because it appears they "got off the hook". Maybe they didn't go to jail, and yes Hillary does hold public office for the moment. But consider just how many Democrats actively supported by the Clinton's have won or lost elections since they came into office in 1992.

That number alone debunks the "Hillary is coming, and we are doomed" stuff, in my opinion.
31 posted on 03/30/2004 7:33:26 AM PST by Badeye
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To: The South Texan
I agree with one exception ~ Jeb's VP in 2008
32 posted on 03/30/2004 7:34:40 AM PST by TatieBug
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To: SZonian
"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life"

There is a variation on that I hear around me, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and he stays out on the boat drunk all day." ;-)

33 posted on 03/30/2004 7:37:55 AM PST by StriperSniper (Ernest Strada Fanclub)
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To: RebelBanker
I wasn't paying perfect attention at the time but I could swear I heard Rush mention she would be unbeatable as a VP candidate this year should Cheney's health become a problem. Rush said the very prospect of a Bush/Rice ticket terrifies the Dems. Therefore she must be destroyed......now.
34 posted on 03/30/2004 7:40:03 AM PST by Wiser now
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To: freeperfromnj
Sure, you bet!
35 posted on 03/30/2004 7:45:45 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Wiser now
I didn't hear it on Rush, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
36 posted on 03/30/2004 7:51:57 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: StriperSniper
Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime, give a man a fish and he demands fries and tartar sauce.

'Cause he's "entitled" of course.
37 posted on 03/30/2004 7:54:13 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: The South Texan
The Democrats/Media Have to Destroy Condi Rice Now.

Given Condi's obvious political threat to Hillary, and the recent SC decision on the Vince Foster photos, Condi would be well advised to avoid afternoon walks in Ft. Marcy Park...

38 posted on 03/30/2004 7:59:02 AM PST by SteveH
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Yes, indeed. And the question remains as to what, exactly, Clarke wrote in his report. Did he deny that there were WMDs in Iraq? No one knows - and the idiot liberal media isn't asking.
39 posted on 03/30/2004 9:32:26 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: Oberon
Her race has not thing one to do with it, since we've already seen that black voters will not vote ofr a candidate just because of race (i.e. Jesse Jackass or Al Sharpton). It would be interesting to see from the viewpoint of democratic strategy (i.e. how do you label republicans as racist? How do you say republicans don't care for minorities? etc). The thought of demidiots calling Ms. Rice an Aunt Thomasina would be funny if it weren' for the fact the diehards amongst them would still eat it up.





40 posted on 03/30/2004 12:09:08 PM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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