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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread

Posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:41 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?

A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. We may not ~always~ have a lot of activity, but when we do, it will be fun. I will put a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I will also develop a ping list for horse threads that are of interest. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

I am hoping this thread will be a fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: giddyup; horse; imbackindsaddleagain; justhorsinaround; ladygodiva; saddleclub; yeehaw
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I know some of you already, but I hope you will introduce yourselves and your horses to the thread for the benefit of everyone else that we know less well. For myself, I have had horses off and on since high-school (which has been awhile) I used to show Arabs in horse shows and some in jumping. I have hopes of someday learning dressage, as I admire the discipline. Perhaps when I am running my boarding stable. I have a 22 year old Arabian horse Bay, who is a good friend and trail horse for me, and riding teacher for my fiancée ecurbh. I also have a pony for no apparent reason, since I don't have kids ;~D. She keeps the horse company. In the coming year, we will probably be looking for a horse that will be ecurbh's horse, when he knows enough to know what he wants.

Also, the Kentucky Derby is coming up, and I found one story about one of the Cinderella prospects that has a lot of appeal for those who like having an emotional favorite: Derby horse overcame gruesome start.

1 posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Endeavor; Capriole; cjshapi; ..
New FR Saddle Club ping!

Welcome one and all, please jump in.... let me know if you want to be pinged to horse threads, and this one, from time to time!

ecurbh made the pretty graphic... The horse is my Bay, who I like to post pictures of... as many of you know ;~D
2 posted on 04/26/2004 12:09:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: All
Hello, all! I am the aforementioned fiancée, who is just learning to ride.


3 posted on 04/26/2004 12:17:59 PM PDT by ecurbh (Kerry threw his medals away before he didn't throw them away.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks for the ping. Just getting ready for show season. Between my mom and I we have 4 arabian and half arabian geldings that are shown in dressage or western pleasure. And there's sure nothing like taking a relaxing walk thru the fields or the woods to clear your mind!
4 posted on 04/26/2004 12:21:18 PM PDT by cjshapi
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To: ecurbh
And that is our beloved Bay and pony in the background...

The family portrait shows us all smilin'...

We should go ridin' today so we have somethin' new to talk about... and work that pony on her bowin' trick.

5 posted on 04/26/2004 12:21:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Now if only we could have a Dog forum! ;-)


Oh wait, no, I take that back. Dog people are not as sensible as horse people, and I usually end up being in trouble.....
6 posted on 04/26/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: cjshapi
Welcome.... do you have pictures of yours?

I love and always hope to learn dressage. Started to try with my Bay, but he really hated the work, and I am not really set up to be serious about it yet.

Bay is really at the end of his riding. Has done thousands of hard miles already as an endurance racer with a previous owner. He has early Navicular, and we are lucky to keep him sound enough to comfortably be a pleasure trail horse a couple more years till he retires from even that.

Maybe our next horse will like dressage.
7 posted on 04/26/2004 12:25:37 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Heh...the one and only time I got told to f*** off was on a pitbull thread. So now...I just spectate. ;-)
8 posted on 04/26/2004 12:27:59 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Most horse people have dogs too! We are a versatile bunch! And favorite breeds sometimes we defend with as much vigor as dog folk!
9 posted on 04/26/2004 12:28:02 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Wandering through..
"unguided and unmoderated"
Sounds alot like the waaaaaaay old Dimensional Doors threads from 'ancient FR history.'

Sounds like a plan.
Don't have a horse myself, nor have I ridden one in years.
*sigh*
But eventually I'll do the latter again.

Well, I'll let you go.
See you on the rebound, laters!
10 posted on 04/26/2004 12:28:48 PM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: Beware, the dandelions have become carnivorou...........)
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To: RosieCotton
LOL!
11 posted on 04/26/2004 12:30:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: RosieCotton
Gee, I wonder who authored those threads......? (as if you didn't know....)
12 posted on 04/26/2004 12:30:03 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
There are certainly some regulars...but I think the guy who said that isn't around anymore.
13 posted on 04/26/2004 12:31:54 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Looks like your thread is off to a flying start so I'll just belay the Mister Ed pic.
14 posted on 04/26/2004 12:32:33 PM PDT by Overtaxed (Wiiiiiiiillllbuuuuurrrrr!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Whoo Hoo:)

This is great. Mack is going to post some pictures of my boys in a few minutes.

I just got in from riding the palamino, Harley, and will be leaving in a few minutes to ride Rusty, my roan. I'm going to take the camera and take some pictures of the trails I ride.

BBL

Becky
15 posted on 04/26/2004 12:33:36 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh I know, my dog-stalker pal! ;-)


I mean, tho, that it's my experience horse people have more sense than dog people (assuming there are separate groups). They understand, for starters at base, that horses can kill you, whereas dog people don't get that about dogs. Thus they have more respect for horses, like people should have for lions, than the latter have for dogs. That includes, ironically, devaluing dogs' intelligence - ironic since generally they are smarter than horses!

Combined w/the Dr Spock approach to discipline, it makes a very dangerous combo. And a very Nazi-like lock-step world-view that labels and libels any1 outside their view "cruel", etc. That's why I don't like dog fora much.
16 posted on 04/26/2004 12:34:29 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I'm going to take the camera and take some pictures of the trails I ride.

Super. It's a gorgeous day here.... and we are going to do the same I think.

Bay needs a bath first, he's as dusty as an old couch, and I hate to put ecurbh's new gear on a dirty horse.

17 posted on 04/26/2004 12:35:34 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: CindyDawg; DouglasKC; malakhi
I know Cindy will enjoy this, but thought you guys might too. You've always said you like to read my babbling about the horses:)

Becky
18 posted on 04/26/2004 12:35:47 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm really bad at posting pics. But if you feel like going to yahoo.com and looking up cjshapi in the member directory I have a photo album of the horses there.
19 posted on 04/26/2004 12:35:53 PM PDT by cjshapi
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To: Darksheare
Same here.

I think the last time I rode was a Western trail horse in '00 or so, winter.

I sure miss just riding English and jumping in the rings. Would like to do things like that, but few horse-rental places do that.
20 posted on 04/26/2004 12:39:20 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: cjshapi
I did look you up and you need to get better at posting photos! Yours are gorgeous!

I have noticed that linked pictures from Yahoo don't work very well when posted elsewhere. That might be part of your trouble.
21 posted on 04/26/2004 12:42:27 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; HairOfTheDog
Cool! Thanks for the ping.
22 posted on 04/26/2004 12:48:04 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I mean, tho, that it's my experience horse people have more sense than dog people (assuming there are separate groups). They understand, for starters at base, that horses can kill you,

LOL. Already the threads first disagreement:) I think most of the average horse owners out there these days, DON'T understand that. I have been critized by other horse owners for tying my horses to a tree to stand for awhile as a form of discipline, for using spurs, for riding them when they are sweaty, poor things are tired....:). I've seen people play tag with their horses, hid treats in their pockets for the horses to find, One girl I knew put the treat in the breast pocket of her T-shirt:). Think about that. After the horse got the treat out of the pocket, she jumped back with her eyes closed, faced her husband, raised her shirt and cried "is it still there?" LOL. Becky

23 posted on 04/26/2004 12:56:38 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
For me, it was alot longer ago than that.
I think I was about 12 years old or so.
I'm 28 now, so it's been too long.
*snort*
24 posted on 04/26/2004 12:57:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: Beware, the dandelions have become carnivorou...........)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; Endeavor; Capriole; cjshapi
This is our stud horse Rocky.

He is a grandson of PocoBueno

BigMack

25 posted on 04/26/2004 12:58:47 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Put me on your list!
26 posted on 04/26/2004 1:01:12 PM PDT by Grammy
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
This is our stud horse Rocky.

Still pimping horses, Mack? ;o)

27 posted on 04/26/2004 1:03:58 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
He's so pretty. I do love stallions for their great faces.

I had an Egyptian Arab stallion when I was showing in high school.... Great cheeks.
28 posted on 04/26/2004 1:05:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: Grammy; All
Will do!

We are going to go out and wash up Bay - be back later.
29 posted on 04/26/2004 1:06:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Cowboy Up!
30 posted on 04/26/2004 1:13:12 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: malakhi; All
Still pimping horses, Mack? ;o)

LOL...he is available for services for a small fee. :)

31 posted on 04/26/2004 1:18:16 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; Endeavor; Capriole; cjshapi; malakhi; Grammy
This is Beckys horse Rusty.

BigMack

32 posted on 04/26/2004 1:27:35 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; Endeavor; Capriole; cjshapi; malakhi; Grammy
This is Beckys new horse for sale project, Harley.

BigMack

33 posted on 04/26/2004 1:30:10 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yippee!

Horse pics for those who missed them the first time around:

My Gracie Mare (you'd never know she was a War Admiral/Northern Dancer pedigree T'bred - she couldn't catch cold if you spotted her ten furlongs . . . )

Here we are hunting with the Shakerag last fall:

Cantering up the hill

Jumping a teeny tiny fence (I didn't have my spurs - gonna have 'em next time!)

34 posted on 04/26/2004 1:36:21 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL!

Well, I'm just talking from experience mostly on internet forums and publications of various kinds. I've never owned a horse but being a horse-racing lover, I frequently read opinions on horses generally and riding, training, behavior, etc.

Let's just say when these subjects come up, there are more "tough" people on the horse threads who will get pilloried for believing you can slap a nasty horse w/o deleterious effects than on any dog forum on same lines.

Few will even bring up such topics in dogs, and every1 nods in solemn self-righteous agreement that you must only speak sweet nothings and offer treats and never even look funny at your killer dog. Oh and of course, any1 who has either a cowardly or viscious dog is a cruel owner (whatever that is), because no animal ever acts that way naturally, and they were not treated that way by any previous owner. The onus is always on the current owner (excuse, "guardian").

Dog people are in short, much more PC than horse people from what I've seen!
35 posted on 04/26/2004 1:47:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Here's ours gettin' cleaned up... He's been grazin' in the yard to dry.... we're about to go saddle up.


36 posted on 04/26/2004 2:14:08 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Yeah, the time I got slapped around was when I was trying to explain the concept of "alpha" to a guy who believed pitbulls could do no wrong. It was off topic, but it had gotten into a discussion about why certain types of people shouldn't have certain types of dogs, i.e. if you aren't willing to discipline and train (and I made it clear I wasn't talkin' about beatings or anything like that!), you for SURE shouldn't have a large, potentially dangerous, strong-willed breed of dog, period.

And I got cussed out and called a cruel pet owner. *sigh*
37 posted on 04/26/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: ecurbh; HairOfTheDog
Back in again:) Forgot to tell you that the graphics at the top of the thread are pretty, and the title is perfect.

Becky
38 posted on 04/26/2004 3:32:42 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; AnAmericanMother; All
Did you take some pics? We took some....

Here's ecurbh up out in the paddock, with his entourage following..

Bay doesn't know a good slow western trot, only an english trot and his extended trot for endurance racing. So here's me trying (I can't reach ecurbh's stirrups) to work on his trot before ecurbh tried.

And a little fun and games

And finally, ecurbh back up.... This is his first time trotting.... a little fast at first, and then Bay settled down for him...


39 posted on 04/26/2004 4:23:50 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: CindyDawg
So you don't think I forgot:) When I went to the vet today with Kristy, I asked him about your horse and sweating and if you should be doing anything special. He said to put a couple of tablespoons of iodized table salt in his feed.

From my competitive trail riding magazines I got a receipe for eltrolites that is cheaper then the kind you buy but basically is the same thing.

Ask your feed store to get you a bag of calcium carbonate. It's pretty cheap stuff, but I could only find it in 50lb bags, so that will last about a lifetime.

Mix: 3 parts table salt, 1 part lite salt, 1 part calcium carbonate.

Give the horse about a 1/4 cup in thier feed.

Funny about horses, if they don't need it they won't eat it. It will all fall to the bottom of the feed bucket. If they do need it they will lick it out.

The table salt replaces salt and sodium, the lite salt replaces potassium, and the Calcium carbonate calcium that they loose when they sweat.

Oh and make sure he has a salt block too.

Becky
40 posted on 04/26/2004 4:31:54 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Your pictures didn't show up:(

I took some but Mack hasn't posted them yet and I don't know how. I may learn now tho, so I don't have to wait on him:)

Becky
41 posted on 04/26/2004 4:33:59 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Maybe it was just a bump in the internet? - Refresh and see if they show up now.... showing up fine here.
42 posted on 04/26/2004 4:36:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Okay they showed this time.

He looks real pretty trotting with you:)

ecurbh (what does that stand for, when I read it I read e curb h:) looks like he is sitting really good , his legs don't look like they are drifting back at all.

Harley jumps ditches instead of steping over or down. That's about the extent of my jumping. He really isn't suppose to do that, so I'm working on it, but it's actually easier to sit the jump when I'm not holding him back to step in, then if I just give him his head and let him jump. It's been fun so I've kind of been letting him:)

Becky
43 posted on 04/26/2004 4:40:10 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
Hey yall. I'm JC. Go here to see my boy (posts 19318-19323http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/964446/posts?page=19323#19323
44 posted on 04/26/2004 4:43:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
ecurbh is his name and last initial spelled backwards ;~D

ecurbh does have good seat and hands I think! - He's doing really well and is going to be a good rider. I am so nervous when he's up.... Bay is pretty good, but he's still challenging... he's no school horse!

Bay shouldn't have jumped that little thing when I was on him either... I actually took him over again and made him walk it. He was hoppin' it with ecurbh too half the time so he is teaching ecurbh to be prepared for anything!
45 posted on 04/26/2004 4:46:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; All
Ok, It worked:')

I'm the 49 y/o rookie here that decided to take up riding again after 39 years. You will find that I'm still green:') My horse's name is Tishamingos Gypsy Van. I call him Okie though . He's a 6/o old paint. I bought him from Becky on Valentines day. Okie was born in Oklahoma and now lives in Texas. I'm a city slicker so I have to stable him. I live in a subdivision and my neighbors wouldn't have a sense of humor about me keeping him in the back yard. :')

46 posted on 04/26/2004 4:52:26 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
Becky sure found you a pretty horse...

I wouldn't mind having a nice strong QH or Paint for our new one. Or an Appy. There is a nice appy-only private camping place we could join if we find an appy.
47 posted on 04/26/2004 4:54:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; CindyDawg
Well if he's doing that good on a horse that isn't a school horse, he will be good.

But you know, like I told Cindy sometimes school horses can be a challenge. My experince with them is they are hard to get them to go. That can be as frustrating as one that goes to easy.

Alot depends on each persons attitude.

Becky
48 posted on 04/26/2004 4:54:54 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
One girl I knew put the treat in the breast pocket of her T-shirt:).

groannnnnnnnnnnnn

49 posted on 04/26/2004 4:55:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I remember school horses like that.... used to kids thumping them in the sides, and they could ignore it.

With ecurbh I had to remind him not to cue too hard or he is going to get a canter before he learns to trot!
50 posted on 04/26/2004 4:56:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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