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Teenagers offer cheap sex (New Zealand prostitution)
New Zealand Herald ^ | 7/10/04 | STEPHEN COOK

Posted on 07/10/2004 1:12:48 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
"The leftist in America should understand that this is what will happen if their plans to legalize prostitution in an effort to make it "safer" succeed."

Prostitution has been legal here in Alabama for the last 200 years, yet you'd be hard-pressed to find a single hooker if you drove around all night.

It's not the law. It's what is in your heart.

The boom in prostitution hasn't come *because* of the change in laws, but rather, becuase the liberal culture is convincing children to pursue paths that are dangerous to them.

Even in this article, if you read between the lines, you can see that what they are complaining about is that *children* are now charging for sex.

Forget laws. When should parents ever let *children* do such things? No sane parent would...which means that the parents are either missing or not sane.

So focusing on the *law* itself takes your eye off of the ball. The law isn't the problem...society (or the breakdown of it) is. Thus, the problem is far deeper than merely some new change in a law.

There has been a change in society, and not for the better.

21 posted on 07/10/2004 1:35:54 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
It's not that children are being sexually exploited that bothers them, it is that capitalism is thriving in a nation that is trying its hardest to go socialist.

The Sex Positive Agenda seeks to have people sexually active at every age (abstinence is "unhealthy" in their eyes because it is a suppression of desires).

22 posted on 07/10/2004 1:40:40 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Southack

I agree completely. The "sexual" revolution, sex education in schools and biggest of all, eight grueling years of Clinton has taught young people that sex is merely a part of life. Kids are taught to experiment with all types of sex (especially homosexuality), in order to establish a sexual "identity." It's sickening, and without a real attitudinal change in society, it is likely to get worse.


23 posted on 07/10/2004 1:42:26 PM PDT by wagglebee
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"Charging less does not mean more work. It just means you work harder for the same money."

If a prostitute charges $40 for a BJ and can serve up as many as 36 of them in a 6 hour period, she potentially makes $1440 in a 6-hour period of time.

    36 customers X $40 = $1440
If another prostitute charges only $20 for a BJ and also works a "6-hour shift," she must serve twice as many customers per hour in order to make the same money.
    72 customers X $20 = $1440
The second prostitute has worked harder for the same money.
24 posted on 07/10/2004 1:43:56 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
The second prostitute has worked harder for the same money.

But the quality of the service has diminished from 10 minutes each to only 5.

25 posted on 07/10/2004 1:49:17 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Sex workers? Are you kidding me?


26 posted on 07/10/2004 1:52:07 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: wagglebee
The leftist in America should understand that this is what will happen if their plans to legalize prostitution in an effort to make it "safer" succeed.

Bulls---.

The problem is that the police have decided not to crack down on streetwalkers. A combination of legalizing prostitution in registered brothels and a hard-line approach to streetwalkers would work fine (and it is working well in Nevada).

27 posted on 07/10/2004 1:55:12 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Bonaparte
She's going to find more "Johns" at $20 than she will at $40 (actually $100). She may have had to stand on the corner for 8 hours to make that kind of money (how many hours were spent just waiting for a John with money to come by?).

You also forget that quite often they are addicts. They work long enough to get a fix and maybe some food. They don't do this because it is a glamorous lifestyle or because they are nymphos.

I doubt that they are pulling thousands in a day on the street. Likely, they used to be able to get enough money after 2 or 3 tricks and now they must work longer to get the same money for a fix/rent/etc.

28 posted on 07/10/2004 1:55:24 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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Prostitution has been legal here in Alabama for the last 200 years, yet you'd be hard-pressed to find a single hooker if you drove around all night.

Really? Try driving down South Boulevard tonight in Montgomery. And I believe it is illegal. They showed cops busting hookers and pimps on MPD (like the show Cops, but featuring the Montgomery PD) recently.

29 posted on 07/10/2004 1:57:53 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: xm177e2
When I've gone to Vegas (1999-2003) I've seen prostitutes walking the strip (they won't speak first but they will eye you) and I've seen the silent men handing out escorts cards and publications.

I've also heard that many of the casino dance clubs (which charge upwards of $20 for men to enter) have a large number of prostitutes who come in (ladies are permitted free at these bars). I didn't visit any of them (big name dance clubs too) so I did not personally observe them. My friends and I did see some women who seemed to be prostitutes at the hotel bar.

I doubt that all prostitution occurs outside of the Vegas city limits (as required by law). It is also not the perception I got from the locals I talked to.

30 posted on 07/10/2004 2:00:50 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: wagglebee

Looks like the market is picking its price.


31 posted on 07/10/2004 2:02:08 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ciexyz

That's exactly what it is, something like the UN 'Sex for Food' program.


32 posted on 07/10/2004 2:05:03 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: weegee

LOL, that is a good old joke!


33 posted on 07/10/2004 2:05:33 PM PDT by jocon307 (Nor forgive!)
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To: wagglebee

The Liberal Delimma......

Right to Privacy = Whore Free Trade


34 posted on 07/10/2004 2:05:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Southack
Prostitution has been legal here in Alabama for the last 200 years

This link indicates otherwise: Alabama Prostitution Law. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not the law. It's what is in your heart.

Exactly.

35 posted on 07/10/2004 2:05:52 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: wagglebee
On the other hand, when it is really tried (as Guiliani did with Times Square), prostitution can be reduced.

Or when it is really tried, as in Holland, legalized prostitution can be pretty safe. Pimping, underage and slave-trade prostitution is still illegal, and all enforcement concentrates on those, leaving the regular working girls alone.

36 posted on 07/10/2004 2:07:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Southack said: "Prostitution has been legal here in Alabama for the last 200 years..."

I didn't know that.

Is it only legal in licensed brothels? That seems unlikely if it has been legal for 200 years.

Is it similarly legal in any neighboring states or is Alabama unique in this respect? If unique, is there some history that would explain this?

37 posted on 07/10/2004 2:08:58 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Alas Babylon!
Pimps are illegal in Alabama, and several cities (plus at least one county) outlaw prostitution itself here, but statewide it's legal.

Always has been.

Always will be.

But the great irony is that you'll find the hookers in those few areas where it is against the law. Again, it isn't the law that has anything to do with it; it's what is in hearts and minds. Those are the areas where society has broken down...the law is merely a band-aid attempt to patch up something more *fundamental* that is already broken.

38 posted on 07/10/2004 2:09:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: weegee

GOOD! Do they keep ALL prostitutes off the streets?


39 posted on 07/10/2004 2:10:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: k2blader
Yeah, I had heard something about that bill (which passed the legislature in some form). Don't recall if the Governor signed it back in 2001 or if it got bottled up in parliamentary procedures or what, though. There was some talk that it's final version only applied to one county, anyway.
40 posted on 07/10/2004 2:16:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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