Skip to comments.The Brilliant "Strategery" of the White House
Posted on 09/09/2004 9:17:47 PM PDT by sixxiron
In this story, it has been reported that CBS obtained the Air National Guard documents, turned them over to the White House and then the White House released them. Just MHO, but I have to believe that someone in the White House knew that the documents were bogus and allowed them to be released knowing what would happen next. If this is true, then this is a stroke of strategic genius. It puts a black eye on CBS, bloodies the lip of the DNC and should put a blanket on any further Bush National Guard questions. All of which make JFKerry look more and more desperate. Again, this theory is just an opinion, but I cant imagine the White House releasing documents as damning as these without knowing that they were blatant fakes and also knowing that others would spot them too. What do you think? W2004!!!
F- for effort
Never...but never...misunderestimate a redneck. heheheh
Sounds plausible, but I'm sure C-BS, if this is true, will make a big deal out of the attempt by the RNC to mislead the media.
Go away, Carville.
Doesn't explain how Kerry's #4 contributor was there promoting them does it? Unless somehow the White House also got this guy to donate 400k over the past year to plant him..
LOL! That's good. :)
They are not ANG documents; they are personal memos from Jerry Killian.
They are NOT in Bush's file.
I find it interesting when brand new FREEPERs provide a back-hand compliment to "the Bush team" and clearly infer that they are the ones manipulating something. The only people that appear to have manipulated anything are CBS, the "source", or both.
Lurk for a while. Then comment.
I see you got your DNC blast fax tonight. Unfortunately for you, the average American is smarter than that.
Please accept my apology.
This is going to be the DNC/CBS spin: they got the documents somehow from the White House in an intentional setup. Suddenly, its a trick by the White House that CBS made an honest effort to investigate and actually, according to CBS, unearthed some facts around this that are damaging to Bush.
Mark my words. CBS will try to ignore what they said about getting them from their "source."
Your link doesn't work...
Oh. There IS no link.
So, this is an opinion? Really.
WOW!!! Not the reaction I was hoping for...... I still think that if this crazy idea has any truth to it, it is brilliant. Sorry to those that have taken offense.
It puts a black eye on CBS, bloodies the lip of the DNC and should put a blanket on any further Bush National Guard questions.
Whoever CBS's secret source is, they just handed Dan Rather an exploding cigar. Dan all too happily rushed to light it up without inspecting it, and now has only himself to blame.
This clumsy ploy will serve only to cast doubt on anyone who attacks Bush's Guard service.
See also: Anatomy of a Forgery
I have some comments on the developments therein at:
The WH did not plant this. Even Karl Rove could not have
imagined that so many people at the DNC, Kerry campaign
and CBS would fall for such obvious forgeries with such
a questionable provenance.
This will not stop the Whiners Party from playing the
"victim of hoax" and "entrapped by dirty trick" cards.
Don't mind us... our troll radar is on overdrive these days.
Interesting theory, and it would be amusing if they allowed them to be released knowing they were fakes. That way they could sit back and watch the drama unfold, while staying above the fray and retaining their dignity (unlike Kerry.)
I talked to my best friend's brother last night who, due to his position in the ***** actually had Dubya's complete military file in front of him. He told me unequivocally that Dubya's record is clean. Gaps in service records are bound to be found in a majority of NG servicemen whoserved in multiple states.In short, His file contains nothing out of the ordinary -- certainly none of these..cough cough... "memos".
Many have commented on the amateurish nature of the forgery, but I think this also points back to Kerry or his operatives. Kerry has always had adoring press coverage. His story about "Christmas in Cambodia", which upon even passing scrutiny is laughable was accepted and passed on a factual by the press for years, even though a cursory look should have told them Nixon wasn't President during the time period involved. Kerry used this for years as "the turning point in his life, seared into his memory". It was a total fabrication, and nobody called him on it.
Bush is a poker player. You're already beaten before you know it. The game's over before he gives you "the look."
BTW, that's from his FIRST inauguration.
LOL.....I check EVERYBODY who I haven't know for years......LOL.
And look at Cheney!
Sorry, someone had to do it.
I seriously doubt that when CBS submitted these docs to the WH that they said, "yeah, we just want you to review these because we are planning on having Barnes use these to rip you in prime time". I think it started as two separate stories (Barnes and the docs) and then CBS bundled them to make one more sensational story.
Y'all don't EVER want to play poker with W......Great strategery and he always gets Misunderestimated.......
Observe how the release of the 2nd (forged) Kerry-Fonda photo immunized Kerry from the discussions of the 1st (real) Kerry-Fonda photo. After CBS is exposed on this, it is unlikely that anyone would follow on any Bush/NG stories. If Rove is behind this, this may be the idea.
Also, observe that this exposes Kerry as someone who is darn easy to dupe. Not a kind of president we need.
Great photo of the Bush 'look'....Cheney has a good 'look' too!
Before you rip me as a "plant", please read my other posts. Granted, I am new, but jeez, a guy has to start somewhere. As a native Texan, I love W and in the grand scheme of things I don't think that allowing forged documents that you didn't create, to be released, when they were going to be released anyway, is low or underhanded at all. I'm not suggesting that the WH forged these documents themselves, I'm just suggesting that they let these guys hang themselves with their own rope.
hmmmmm depends who in the WH saw them. If you were never in the military or no lights came on about the font's you would have no idea if they were legit or not. It is up to CBS to determine authinticy and not the WH if they are going to run with them. These aren't Bush's records but allegedly personal memo's belonging to another.
Yeah, I love that photo. Saved it as soon as I saw it. While I like Cheney's look, the expression on Bush's face is priceless. I wish I could see the look on Clinton's face.
Perhaps he's biting his lower lip....?
BTW have you heard the breaking news from Slick's doctors?
It was reported that doctors are very concerned about Clinton's condition and fear that he may take a turn for the nurse.
And, ultimately, I know that the MSM will try to pin this on the President, VP Cheney, Karl Rove, Halliburton or someone else. It's their template. It's what they say about all of this stuff and it's false. But, that has never prevented them from doing or saying these things.
Look, in November, if the electorate rises up and crushes the demoSCUMs and John Kerry, I will feel very assured that there are less and less "sheeple" and more and more people are paying attention to what's going on (i.e, getting their information from more than Danny, Petah', or Tommy Blowchow).
Until that happens, I am going to be hopeful, but I'm going to be skeptical. Sorry, I'm just so jaded on the MSM's bias that I can't help but think that the MSM still "controls" too much of the electorate's opinions. I will happily be wrong. If the MSM doesn't blame (or insinuate blame) Bush for the documents, I will openly, publicly apologize to you (and our young Padawan, sixxiron).
Fair point, and I agree with your assessment of the old media. I watched Nightline tonight for the first time in probably ten years, and even though they sorta kinda almost accepted the documents as fake, they didn't mention that Ben Barnes was a Kerry contributor. Koppel also got into an extended discussion with some bozo and they agreed that the forged documents couldn't possibly have come from Kerry because it would be too stupid, but were undoubtedly from someone trying to help Kerry that went overboard.
Ignore the tinfoil hat comment. I got trigger happy, but I still cannot see this as a conspiracy in any form.
When your enemy is killing himself, the best thing to do is just stay out of the way.
The old Rope-A-Dope that Bush/Rove do so well...
Thane_Banquo had the same idea when he posted this thread:
Why would the White House have anything to do with the papers? Military records are on file in St. Louis, MO.
To get Reserve Records and NG Records you had to request them through Maxwell AFB, AL. The White House doesn't care about memos, or personnel Files.
SO, I don't see any link to the story, is this just your opinion?
Place marker for pictures.
I have to believe that someone in the White House knew that the documents were bogus and allowed them to be released knowing what would happen next .....
There is NO WAY in heck the White House had any thing to do with this cra*. Had they seen the docs before hand, I think they would have commented only that they had not seen them before or something. NO WAY would they have acknowledged they were legit. Can you imagine CBS saying that the WH had seen the documents prior to this report and said they were true or did not deny their authenticity?
Anyway, welcome to FreeRepublic.com .....