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Did Kerry Cheat in the Debate?

Posted on 10/02/2004 12:51:42 PM PDT by SoCar

I read on another message board that right before Kerry took the podium he removed something from his pocket and set it in front of him. They are saying it looked like a piece of paper. If Kerry had a cheat sheet that would be a blatant violation of the rules and could sink him for good. If this is true I wonder if Bush perhaps saw this and it flustered him?

I am unable to view this because for some reason I can't get the C-Span video to play. It's 2 minutes into it.


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KEYWORDS: cheater; firstdebate; kerry

1 posted on 10/02/2004 12:51:42 PM PDT by SoCar
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To: SoCar

It doesn't matter.


2 posted on 10/02/2004 12:53:08 PM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: SoCar

I still say Kerry had the questions beforehand. He was too quick with his answers and did not have to think at all.


3 posted on 10/02/2004 12:53:41 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone

i agree. I think he had the questions but can't prove it. Just a feeling. He's not that good. and his answers seemed to be so played off of.


4 posted on 10/02/2004 12:55:01 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: SoCar; areafiftyone

I agree, it may have been the list of questions.


5 posted on 10/02/2004 12:55:20 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Huck
"It doesn't matter."

Thanks

6 posted on 10/02/2004 12:55:29 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: wagglebee

No doubt. The fix was in.


7 posted on 10/02/2004 12:55:50 PM PDT by proust
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To: queenkathy

If you compare the quickness and directness of his responses in the debate with his responses during any general interview, there is a huge difference.


8 posted on 10/02/2004 12:56:34 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Huck

I agree. This is meaningless.


9 posted on 10/02/2004 12:56:34 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: proust

I few months ago, I would have never thought something like this was possible. Now, I believe the leftist media will do anything to steal the election.


10 posted on 10/02/2004 12:57:09 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Faith

therein lies the problem. He can't be trusted. I sat here calling him "liar" during the whole first 1/2 hr. He is arrogant and too "pretty" for me


11 posted on 10/02/2004 12:57:58 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: wagglebee; areafiftyone
It did seem as if he had the questions but we could never prove what was on the paper, just that he had one.
12 posted on 10/02/2004 12:58:14 PM PDT by SoCar (John Kerry's campaign is a distraction from the fight against al-Qaida)
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To: Faith

He didn't need the questions. Only Bush got bizarre unpredictable questions and that gave Kerry time to think. Kerry responded with one word answers and then launched into pre-planned answers. Bush looked less polished because he didn't want to ad lib his way into a mistake that could be exploited later -- like Kerry did.


13 posted on 10/02/2004 12:59:06 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Faith

He didn't need the questions. Only Bush got bizarre unpredictable questions and that gave Kerry time to think. Kerry responded with one word answers and then launched into pre-planned answers. Bush looked less polished because he didn't want to ad lib his way into a mistake that could be exploited later -- like Kerry did.


14 posted on 10/02/2004 12:59:11 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
Sorry for the double post.

Sorry for the double post.

15 posted on 10/02/2004 1:00:48 PM PDT by AmishDude (To Kerry, some world leaders are more equal than others.)
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To: areafiftyone

Even if Kerry had the questions beforehand, President Bush didn't seem to have the answers when they were asked. He groped for responses. Those questions were all about his record during the past 4 years. I understand his disdain for Kerry, but he dissed all of us with by being hacked that anyone had the audacity to question what he's done the last 4 or what he plans to do in the next 4 except hold the course in a very difficult job.


16 posted on 10/02/2004 1:01:44 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

I think a large part of the problem was Kerry's responses. Whenever he answered a question he hit Bush from 5 to 6 different directions, and there was no way Bush could respond effectively to each one.


17 posted on 10/02/2004 1:21:33 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

You choose the weakest and debunk it. The Prsident in gerneral didn't. And for that matter, he should have been able to launch his own 5 or 6 fronts againt F'n. He didn't. He was not properly coached, prepared and willing to share his record and his plan.


18 posted on 10/02/2004 1:24:22 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: SoCar

Yes he did. He had questions before hand....but the Bush administration already knew he would. They do understand the liberal loons and what absolute CHEATERS they've always been and always will be!!!


19 posted on 10/02/2004 1:28:59 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: joesbucks

"President Bush didn't seem to have the answers when they were asked." Just because the President pauses or reflects before answering a question doesn't mean he didn't answer them (he did), silly.


20 posted on 10/02/2004 4:22:39 PM PDT by Raquel (Liberals abide by a standard all their own.)
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To: areafiftyone
AREAFIFTYONE WROTE: "I still say Kerry had the questions beforehand. He was too quick with his answers and did not have to think at all."

BINGO!!! I believe I was the first one to point that out. I noticed it immediately when Kerry referred, with certainty, to a question coming up later in the debate.

21 posted on 10/03/2004 10:38:12 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: Concerned
Check this out:

http://www.zombietime.com/kerry_at_first_debate/

22 posted on 10/05/2004 6:14:52 AM PDT by razorbak
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To: SoCar

I am new to this forum, probably not posting correctly, but I stopped by to ask for HELP. There are several threads on this topic so I am posting on each.


You all are correct, Kerry did pull a white piece of paper out of his pocket as he took the podium. I have one verification of it. Everyone has been studying Kerry's movements at the very beginning of the tape, from various networks and the internet. From the 'live' fox version of the debate, I have one verification that Kerry reached into his pocket a SECOND time, later in the debate, to take out that black pen.

I need HELP from anyone who has a taped version of the 'live' debate from Fox since I don't have it. Please watch your tape and find the exact time when Kerry reached into his pocket the second time to get his pen. It is very important for me to have a second or third verification of this from the 'live' Fox version (not any of the other network or internet versions).

I believe that the still photo came from a different fox camera angle than the cameral angle fed live of the debate on fox and I believe that the still shot is NOT from anywhere in the beginning of the tape, but from later on (@30 to 45 or more minutes, more or less) into the debate when Kerry got tired of using that white pen that was provided. Like I said, I have one verification of Kerry taking out the pen from his pocket later in the debate and need a 2nd or 3rd person to verify.

Please reply if you have been successful in finding this and thank you all for taking the time do so.

Kimberly





23 posted on 10/07/2004 8:36:40 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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