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Lost Ed Wood film unearthed
Slashdot ^ | 10-28-04 | WestVirginiaRebel

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:35:04 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel

A long-lost Ed Wood film, "necromania," has apparently been found and is available on DVD.


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Also known as, "John Kerry's Marriage-The Early Years."
1 posted on 10/28/2004 7:35:16 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Wonder if it's any good.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 7:36:41 PM PDT by Angry Republican (ďIf in four years I donít do what I say Iím going to do, then kick me out." -Melvin Bilal (R-MD))
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Just what the world needs. One more lousy movie. Glen or Glenda bump.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 7:38:02 PM PDT by speedy
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Good heavens! Take that and put it on Chat. No one cares about a soft porn trash.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 7:39:33 PM PDT by TurtleStink
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Why do you think any of us care?


5 posted on 10/28/2004 7:42:15 PM PDT by Kirkwood (I think, therefore I am Republican!)
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To: TurtleStink

Sorry about that :-)


6 posted on 10/28/2004 7:42:20 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (What does John Kerry hunt with? Spitballs???)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Bump for an American original.

Yes his movies were thematic, artistic, and box office crap. And his personal morality left pretty much everything to be desired. But speaking as a devotee of truly bad cinema, Ed Wood is one of my antiheroes.

7 posted on 10/28/2004 7:43:47 PM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us does it top his finest film? PS this is my first pic I have ever posted I hope it works
8 posted on 10/28/2004 7:46:20 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: MVP)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Necromania? I looked it up in the dictionary, and it describes necromania as a feeling typical of people who have a fanatical obsession with John Kerry.

Who knew?
9 posted on 10/28/2004 7:48:48 PM PDT by True_wesT
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

10 posted on 10/28/2004 7:49:07 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
A long-lost Ed Wood film, "necromania," has apparently been found...

I thought it was a "Turn Out the Vote" production by the Kerry campaign.

11 posted on 10/28/2004 7:51:01 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: escapefromboston
Congrats on your first picture post. Now you have just 999 more pics to go before we show you the "secret handshake".
12 posted on 10/28/2004 7:52:20 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

It's ANOTHER Dem October Suprise!


13 posted on 10/28/2004 7:52:26 PM PDT by eagle11 (If you value America's future.....vote GWBush on Nov 2nd!!!)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Roll 'em

Said while wearing a skirt and a lovely fluffy sweater.

14 posted on 10/28/2004 7:52:40 PM PDT by DCBurgess58 (We have a French knife in our back)
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To: Lockbar

This may knock "Plan 9" out of first place as the worst movie ever made.


15 posted on 10/28/2004 7:56:55 PM PDT by KnutCase (When GWB wins, we all win!)
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To: Angry Republican

BTTTTT! That's hardly Mr. Wood's strong suit, don't you agree.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 8:00:59 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

The important question is will it predict the election!


17 posted on 10/28/2004 8:03:59 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: KnutCase
This may knock "Plan 9" out of first place as the worst movie ever made.

Why do so many people claim Plan 9 from Outer Space is the worst movie ever made? I will readily admit that the sets, writing, acting, effects, and continuity are all pretty dreadful, as are Criswell's speeches, but there are worse movies out there. If one accepts the premise that a bunch of stupid egotistical aliens are coming to earth to warn people about the dangers of solaminite or whatever it is, and that these aliens can take over the planet with an army of three zombies, then the movie makes sense.

While there are plenty of shots where Ed Wood should have done retakes, I don't recall many shots that should have been left out altogether. While some of the stock footage clashed horribly with the purpose-shot footage, the use of stock footage was at least made sense.

While I'll confess that I've never actually seen "Manos", Hands of Fate, the review at agonybooth.com makes it very hard to believe that it could not be worse than Plan 9. According to that review, there are places in the film where characters spend minutes of screen time driving. Not doing anything toward plot or exposition. Just driving through nondescript countryside. I don't recall anything like that in Plan 9.

18 posted on 10/28/2004 8:19:19 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat
"I will readily admit that the sets, writing, acting, effects, and continuity are all pretty dreadful, as are Criswell's speeches...."

Uh, excuse me, but what's left to defend, then?

"Greetings, my friends. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives."

19 posted on 10/28/2004 8:45:05 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: supercat
Plan 9 is an irresistably charming film. Its production flaws actually enhance the viewing experience, like the green enthusiasm of a garage band.

Manos, The Hands of Fate actually grates on the viewer. If it's marginally less inept than Plan 9, it's far more pretentious. The actors fancy themselves thespians, while the Plan 9 players dared to be hams.

And yet, Manos bore the Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment to hilarious effect, while Plan 9 (in the opinion of the MST3K creators) would not, because not enough action takes place.

20 posted on 10/28/2004 8:49:48 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: supercat

i just saw plan 9 from outerspace on the svengoolie show out of chicago and i dont think it wastheworst film ever made either ive seen a lot worse recently and from major studios recently i mean come on farenhiet 9/11 hello peopl e lots worse then plan 9 and just as far fetched :-)


21 posted on 10/28/2004 9:24:42 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: Physicist
Plan 9 is an irresistably charming film

I totally agree i liked it when i saw it on tv recently

22 posted on 10/28/2004 9:27:57 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Uh, excuse me, but what's left to defend, then?

Cinematographically, the film made sense. It effectively told its story. To be sure, the story was incredibly silly and made little sense, but the film held together well enough to tell it.

When the aliens flew to the mothership, the set where they talked to their leader didn't really look anything like the inside of a space ship, but since it was preceded by an establishing model shot, it was clear that's what it was supposed to be.

Plus, as someone else noted, the film had a certain charm to it many other films lack. Perhaps it's the fact that so much in the film was so exaggerated, much like Christopher Guest's role in Little Shop of Horrors. But more likely it's the fact that the film's humor comes across as unintentional.

A key aspect of a lot of comedy is the straight man--someone who acts totally oblivious to the humor of his situation. In Plan 9, Ed Wood is the straight man. One perceives, watching the film, that Ed Wood believes in it. When the action cuts between some nifty stock footage of artillery firing and a couple of military men talking in front of a blank wall that would be about the right shade of grey to be sky (if there weren't clouds in the real stock-footage sky) one imagines that Ed Wood probably thought the shots matched well enough that nobody would notice that they don't match perfectly (never mind that they don't really match at all).

Something like Plan 9 is hardly a good movie, but it's at least watchable. Unlike some films, I didn't find myself wondering "what was he thinking!?", since it seemed pretty clear what Ed Wood was thinking. I may have wondered "How could he possibly think ___?" [e.g. that the military studio shots matched the stock footage] but it was clear that he did. By contrast, if Manos is as described, things like the driving scenes would leave me wondering "What was he thinking!? Why is this footage here?" A much worse question.

23 posted on 10/28/2004 11:02:01 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Physicist
Manos, The Hands of Fate actually grates on the viewer. If it's marginally less inept than Plan 9, it's far more pretentious. The actors fancy themselves thespians, while the Plan 9 players dared to be hams.

I haven't seen Manos, but I would consider Plan 9 to be exceptionally pretentious. But it manages to be pretentious and self-effacing at the same time, which is a pretty unusual trick. One might analogize it to someone who walks around wearing a $5000 suit whose pants have a small hole that's patched with duct tape and who acts as though the suit is perfect. If the guy acted as though he knew the suit's flaw was obvious, it wouldn't be funny, and if the suit were repaired competently but imperfectly it wouldn't be funny. What becomes funny is when the flaw is so obvious the person couldn't help but believe it to be so, and yet he does not.

And yet, Manos bore the Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment to hilarious effect, while Plan 9 (in the opinion of the MST3K creators) would not, because not enough action takes place.

A movie like Plan 9 doesn't lack action. Rather, the problem with doing an MST3K treatment would be that the film is sufficiently outrageous that there's not much for Tom Servo et al. to add. When a character says "Atomospheric disturbances in outer space often interfere with transmitting", what more can one say that wouldn't seem lame by comparison.

There was one movie I saw on MST3K where some characters drove through the "squealing swamp", so called because of the squealing noises whenever the car's tires skidded on the dirt road. To be sure, it's pretty clear that tires can't squeal on dirt, but I wouldn't have noticed it were it not for the comment. But Plan 9's quirks are sufficiently glaring obvious that there's no purpose to pointing them out.

24 posted on 10/28/2004 11:28:57 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat
Well, since you bring up MST3K.... now there's a horror of an idea.

People hate those who sit in theaters and talk to the screen or their cell phones, whatever, and nowadays some find it entertaining to watch a bunch of adolescents talk over a movie ( no matter how bad it is?). Let me watch it in all it's "splendor".

25 posted on 10/29/2004 8:04:29 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: freepatriot32

Is Rich Koz still doing Son of Svengoolie in Chicago? I loved that show when I was a kid.


26 posted on 10/29/2004 8:07:32 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: Polonius

yes he is he also host a saturday night show on channel 69 out of south bend called stoogapalooza its all three stooges all the time he appears as himself on that show though not as svengoolie


27 posted on 10/29/2004 8:35:09 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: freepatriot32; Polonius

I'm in the Chicago area, too and Svengoolie used to make appearances at malls, supermarkets and different places in the area. Years ago when I worked at a mall and around Halloween he was going to be making an appearance.

One of my co-workers who had been there for past appearences was telling me that Koz has to have security guards with him because people threaten him when he is in the Svengoolie get up! People who aren't familiar with his show have threatened him and yell insults at him. I always thought that was really strange.


28 posted on 10/29/2004 8:43:13 AM PDT by retrokitten (Boo! I am a high price Washington lobbyist peddling influence.- Dale Gribble)
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