Given the fact that even the blue states are predominately red when you look at them county-by-county I'm willing to bet the results would show something sompletely different.
Posted on 11/05/2004 3:48:05 AM PST by RME 7D8
State Avg. IQ 2004 1 Connecticut 113 Kerry 2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry 3 New Jersey 111 Kerry 4 New York 109 Kerry 5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry 6 Hawaii 106 Kerry 7 Maryland 105 Kerry 8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry 9 Illinois 104 Kerry 10 Delaware 103 Kerry 11 Minnesota 102 Kerry 12 Vermont 102 Kerry 13 Washington 102 Kerry 14 California 101 Kerry 15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry 16 Maine 100 Kerry 17 Virginia 100 Bush 18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry 19 Colorado 99 Bush 20 Iowa 99 Bush 21 Michigan 99 Kerry 22 Nevada 99 Bush 23 Ohio 99 Bush 24 Oregon 99 Kerry 25 Alaska 98 Bush 26 Florida 98 Bush 27 Missouri 98 Bush 28 Kansas 96 Bush 29 Nebraska 95 Bush 30 Arizona 94 Bush 31 Indiana 94 Bush 32 Tennessee 94 Bush 33 North Carolina 93 Bush 34 West Virginia 93 Bush 35 Arkansas 92 Bush 36 Georgia 92 Bush 37 Kentucky 92 Bush 38 New Mexico 92 Bush 39 North Dakota 92 Bush 40 Texas 92 Bush 41 Alabama 90 Bush 42 Louisiana 90 Bush 43 Montana 90 Bush 44 Oklahoma 90 Bush 45 South Dakota 90 Bush 46 South Carolina 89 Bush 47 Wyoming 89 Bush 48 Idaho 87 Bush 49 Utah 87 Bush 50 Mississippi 85 Bush
The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though they do not appear in the current edition. The tests and data were administered via the Raven's APT, and the The Test Agency, one of the UK's leading publishers and distributors of psychometric tests. This data has been published in the Economist and the St. Petersburg Times, though this does not mean it should be taken as fact. Though the data does correlate somewhat to IQ of students per state based on SAT/ACT data, though this would be biased for those that had completed a high school education. Someone has also taken 2000 census data on percentage of state residents that have earned a college degree and used that to compare the voting in the 2000 election, it seems to correlate well. Someone sent me a table showing average income per state, and how they voted as well.
Some people have written me saying that this is a hoax, I am unsure if it is, someone did a list like this in the 2000 election, I found it interesting, but moreso this time, as people knew exactly what they were getting into. My powers of fact checking dwindle in the face of such pillars of journalistic integrity as the Economist and St. Petersburg Times. Needless to say, as I stated above, the data is in question, but it's still an interesting correlation that is very plausible. This wasn't posted as an elitest diatribe, as i said, I just found it interesting.
Mirrored for my friend at ChrisEvans3D.com. Before you cheer or flame me, I make no claims for/against the validity of the data; I just provide the bandwidth.
What kind of folls believe anything they read which feeds their fantasies? MMmmmmmm?
LOL, they're so desperate! :-0)
I hope Jim's rule about posting from DU is re-implemented after the offical gloating period has expired.
What predominates in blue states is "high IQ -low intelligence"-a lamentable condition.
As it should. Would it surprise anyone that those who are indoctrinated in a certain belief system are more likely to believe in it? News flash!!! Most Christians believe in Christ!!!!It's laughably absurd.
If you saw the thread responses on this @ DU you would really chuckle -- how funny is it to not even know how dumb you sound (clueless) --it's like watching a trainwreck!!
According to this theory the highest IQ must be amongst DC voters. They voted overwhelmingly 90%+ for John Kerry.
Straight out of the Ann Coulter Playbook for Dims.
"Oh yeah? Well, you're Stupid. So there! Nyah!"
It's kinda fun to watch, isn't it?
Given the fact that even the blue states are predominately red when you look at them county-by-county I'm willing to bet the results would show something sompletely different.
The collective IQ of the DUh crowd couldn't stand up to a couple of Free Republic posters, with one hand tied behind their backs.
They're ginning up for another set of defeats in 2006 and 2008. For a bunch of creeps that tout they're smarter, they obviously haven't learned anything.
Secret Weapon for Bush?
By JOHN TIERNEY, NY Times
o Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W. Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.
That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative columnist at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential I.Q.'s. During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr. Bush's SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points lower than Al Gore's.
Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a comparison of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They are not formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make reasonable extrapolations.
Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.
Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.
Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax.
Click on the link above to read the rest of the article.
IQ can't be extrapolated from anything other than an IQ test. Just a wild guess, but I don't think the general public is routinely administered IQ tests.
From my somewhat limited knowledge of behavioral science, I do remember that only people who are believed to either have extremely high or abnormally low IQ are routinely tested.
But I'll bet you clever FReepers already knew that!
How could anyone read DU and FR and believe the DUmmies are smarter???
.............................20/20................counts too.
Montana, where I live, you can easily figure out where all the indian reservations are by looking at the counties shaded in blue.
I happen to know a guy who's a member of MENSA, who is quite frankly an idiot.
Not surprising. An IQ test really measures one's potential to learn, not what is actually learned. If Albert Einstein had been kept in a box without intellectual stimuli, he still would have had an amazingly high IQ, but he also would have been dumb as a stump.
Much like many self-proclaimed geniuses and liberals.
If you only ever expose yourself to people who think the same way, you can never learn how to have an original thought.
I have an insatiable appetite for learning, some who know me say I know too much. To be honest, I was nothing more than a C average student in high school who graduated 6th in a class of 12 students.
I always found that a good corollary for IQ was the ability to grasp new concepts quickly.
Unfortunately, it takes a lot of new concepts to keep people with a thirst for learning focused and the result is a lot of kids diagnosed with ADHD and other so-called learning "disabilities".
ACK! Italics off, I say!
A perfect diagnosis for what I was going through in high school. When I wasn't lazy I was just plain bored. All of that offset by spurts of ambition.
Burned-out, under-paid teachers in rattle-trap schools with no budget to speak of and litigious parents going nuts over cuts scrapes and spankings.
Good 'ole public school system.
The only time I got bored was when I was in a class where I already knew the material being taught.
Yep.
I'm off to bed. Always a pleasure. Goodnight.
"...DU Alert - Posting IQ data alleging "Blue States have higher IQ's than Red States"..."
All I know is that the Red states had MORE votes for Bush than the Blue states. That's fine with me. The dimoCRAKS need to find a bar or gutter and drown their "intellectual" sorrows. They'll have four years to contemplate that in the gutter of woe.
What does this tell us about our countries universities?
Oh please. They are so sadly pathetic! If this little story helps brighten up their miserable selves, I say let them wallow in it.
And they wonder why they keep losing. Geez.
"I happen to know a guy who's a member of MENSA, who is quite frankly an idiot."
I wonder if the fact that he pays good money to be in a "club for smart people that does nothing" is a clue.
"What does this tell us about our countries universities?"
It tells us that these are the good ones:
United States Naval Academy
West Point
United States Air Force Academy
University of Notre Dame
Brigham Young University
re: Nevada IQ 99
I am a new Nevada resident with an IQ of 140 (range 135-145), so I am doing my part to raise the state average, haha
In any case, I'm smart enough to know that IQ doesn't mean much - after all, I can't tell you how many high IQ folks I knew in law firms back in NY who kept getting smoked by used car salesmen with 'average' IQs.
At least all those geniuses can take solace in the fact that they are much 'smarter' than everyone else. :-)
I have often thought the guy got snookered. Serves him right. The idiot.
"What does this tell us about our countries universities?"
It tells us that these are the good ones:
United States Naval Academy
West Point
United States Air Force Academy
University of Notre Dame
Brigham Young University
Why, thank you, FlightDeck ---
My screenname (RME 7D8) is only mildly coded (ARMY 78) -- guess where I went to school? [Is Flightdeck code for Squid U?]
Basically, the "smart ones" (whether measured by capacity -IQ- or raw knowledge -BS, MS, PHD) miss the point -- it's what you do with your knowledge, your attitudes, and (dare I say) yor moral values that really determine what your worth is. Such a blasphemy to the educated, elitist idiots in most Universities.
Your senator can also make an appointment. The asthma thing might be insurmountable, though. Of course there are dozens and dozens of great schools in this country, I just listed the few I know where the students end up coming out conservative.
Beat Army! j/k
Actually, my brother was USNA class of 2000, but 'Flightdeck' comes from my undergrad University of Dayton Flyers. (The bar in the basketball stadium is the Flightdeck where we watched all the games). I am, however, a civilian pilot. I saw Army won their first game in about two years the other weekend. My office mate, (West Point '96), was thrilled, but my other office mate (USNA '02) reminded him who was going to win in Philly.
Cheers
I also know a guy who is probably ranks well above genius. He over thinks things to the point that his brain short circuits! Common sense completely flies out the window! Did I mention he's a socialist, and yes, he voted for Kerry.
Geeze, how do you find this stuff?
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