Skip to comments.I'M MAD AS HELL
Posted on 11/29/2004 4:58:50 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
And I'm not sure if I can take it anymore!!
Agriculture would seem to be an appropriate forum for this manure.
Take a deep breath and get a good lawyer.
If you are legally bound, by divorce decree, to continue to support your daughter, you don't have much of a choice.
If you play the ransom game (witholding support and insurance) that the ex-wife and daughter are drawing you into, it will only get worse for you.
Are you an attorney?
No, just a student of the school of hard knocks.
OK, I'll tell the judge my new lawyer went to the School of Hard Knocks and he advised me to take a deep breath.
I don't think you are legally bound to support a child over 18.
The advice was meant sincerely. And, from a woman's point of view, which I can now see you wouldn't appreciate anyway.
Too bad you're itching for a fight. Bye.
He is if the divorce decree states that - as long as the child is in school and up to the age of 23.
Unless you are legally bound to provide support, I'd say you're best rid of all these people. Family or not.
Pay her tuition.
Oh, was this thread only supposed to get replies from attorneys? Maybe put that in the title next time.
Apparently, you don't want to pay tuition, health insurance, OR legal fees.
You are wrong and your ignorance of the matter shows. Before you give someone advice you should check the facts. The age of 23 obligation would depend on what state the divorce occured. No, in my state you are only obigated until 18. I was helping out of the kindness of my heart and the fact that she's my daughter.
You have zero kindness in your heart.
The next time you post a self-indulgent vanity, state the facts up front instead of trolling for answers that you can rant at.
Lawyers....Grin...... Just make certain to get your own lawyer to properly handle your will.... (your final Grin)
Kindness of your heart?????
Wow, Father of the Year award!
The reason I asked about being an attorney, is that I would think that anyone giving leagal advice to someone else would want to be very careful. Actually I have gotten in the habit of being very careful of giving advice of any kind. The bars are full of blow-hards that will tell you what to do in any instance.
I bought the kindness of your heart part until you mentioned that you would lose her as a tax dependant. She's not the only one with money on her mind.
But I'm a sensitive guy. Here's an attorney who undoubtedly feels your pain, and I imagine he'd be quite interested in your teenage daughter's, umm, welfare.
Yikes! And I thought the Ozzie Osbornes were a totally disfunctional family.
Well then what are you worried about? Cut off the ingrate (both financially and personally) and forget about it. If she's like any normal kid she'll apologize in due time. .....although it could be a long while.
What about the fact that she's living in sin? Also if I only cared about money then I would not pay tuition in the first place. I'm not required to pay it. I'm hurt by the lack of appreciation shown by my daughter. Life is not fair and courts will always make unfair desicions. The whole point of my post is my anger at her. I know that most of you are blaming me for her bad attitude and lack of respect, because I'm a poor father.
I think that is the best advice I've heard. Are you a lawyer? Just kidding.
I'll take your word for it.
I'm not a lawyer either. But I can tell you one important thing: you're headed for a fall.
Now...if the child and mother never grow up....walk on...don't look back. (see my previous post)
I have 6 children....and only one has been difficult...real difficult......I mean real difficult....REALLY!
You know what else? This is FR. This is suppose to be the voice of conservative reason. Nobody has complemented me on the disgust I have for my daughter living in sin. No words of encouragement for standing my ground for values. Man if freepers don't appreciate my stance, I can only imagine what some judge will do.
This EXACT same story was printed in the "Dear Ann" advice column last year.
I vote for the manure heap!
Then let me be the first: Congratulations, and my compliments, on having a daughter who disgusts you by living in sin. Let me encourage you to keep on being the kind of father you are. And, thank you for the laughs. Sorry they were at your expense.
She's probably livng in sin to tick you off. Ignore it. She knows how you feel. Pay her tuition and don't expect her to kiss your feet. You'll feel like you did the right thing and there's nothing she can "blame" you for.
How often do you see your daughter?
Send me that story. I think you're mistaken, or not telling the truth.
OK...now you forced me into therapy mode..... Yes you are hurt. I'd imagine your daughter did not move in with this fellow to hurt you....she just may love this guy and he may become your son-in-law...so give it time. She "is" an adult...even though you are still providing some support. In time you may be hunting with the man living with your daughter....so...don't inflick wounds that may never heal.
He may be in a hunting blind near you...GRIN.
I think you're right. Not only am I going to pay her tuition, I'm going to send her a carton of smokes. I am also going to send her a gross of condoms since it looks like she will need them. I will also send her a couple of cases of whiskey and the directions to the local indian Casino.
I think your heart is in the right place.
Since you haven't let us know why or when you got a divorce when you and your wife had a dependent daughter, or if you stayed around to help to raise and teach her, my only advice would be to see your lawyer.
Yours will be too....Time and distance have a way of healing most wounds..... The sin-thing is her's to deal with....it's between her and God.
The Lord knows, I have made my mistakes.....then again, these mistakes are between Him and I.....I a comfortable with that....
You don't want advice. You want someone to condone YOUR behavior. As Judith said, you are heading for a fall. Good luck to you.
Hang in there King.
Did you just call me a liar? Dear Ann died a few years back, and the column is now called "Annie's Mailbag". I runs in my local paper and I've been reading it every day for over thirty years. It originates from the Chicago Tribune, I believe, and you can just toddle right over there and sign up for yourself.
Dear Ann was around before the Internet. Her common sense and solid American ideals were of great benefit to me as a parent. Every once in awhile, she would print up the "red herrings" and laugh at herself, saying that those boys at Yale must have alot of free time. I'm sure many women remember her good advice.
This story was printed in the new "Rainbow" version, and I recall this because I made a point of showing to my husband. Between our three children, we've paid for one prep school, six colleges/universities, one sorority and one fraternity.
Final score...two out of three are college graduates!
That one set my beeber off, too.
Talk to a lawyer, not to us.
I can claim her as a dependant as long as she is enrolled in college full time. I provide health insurance and have claimed her for many years even though she has never lived with me. Also just for conversation's sake, I have always paid support and mantained contact with her. I did take off on her mother (and her I guess by proxy) because her mom was completly stupid. Also, in my youth I made many many mistakes, but the point is that I would feel guilty if I didn't makes some kind of a stand. The idea is that if you love your kids you want them to avoid mistakes even if you have made the same mistake. My father died when I was 5 and I never had anyone around to tell me when I was screwing up. I would have loved to have had someone kick my ass even at the age of 19.
Kids don't ever learn from their parents mistakes. Pay her tuition....she's gonna need an education....just don't pay her RENT.