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I'M MAD AS HELL

Posted on 11/29/2004 4:58:50 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII

And I'm not sure if I can take it anymore!!


TOPICS: Agriculture
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My 19 year old daughter is taking me to court. She's taking me to court to force me to pay for her college. I was helping her pay her way through up until last month. She decided to move in with her boyfreind to save money. I told her I couldn't help her if she was going to move in with her boyfreind. She told me over the phone that I was a phsyco for even making a big deal about it. She called me a physco. She asked me for money. She said she has no money and is asking a judge to force me to pay her tuition. I'm divorced from her mother. Her mother said she would suggest to her daughter that she take out a restraining order against me until I resume helping her financially. A restraining order so that I can't call or contact her in anyway. I don't know what a court will do. I can't beleive people can think this way. Especially someone that's my own daughter. I told her that if she insists on living with her boyfriend I would make a change to her health insurance, yes I still pay the premiums. My daughter lives several hundred miles away from me, and I'm going to go to a less expensive plan so that if she wants to go to the doctor she has to come to the city I live in. I was paying a higher premium so that she could go to the doctor in the town she goes to school in. I suppose I could just drop her all together, but then I wouldn't be able to claim her as a dependent on my taxes. When I talk to her it's as if I'm nothing more than an inconvienance to getting her cash. I'm like a john to her. It's sickening.
1 posted on 11/29/2004 4:58:50 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Agriculture would seem to be an appropriate forum for this manure.


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:06:12 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Take a deep breath and get a good lawyer.

If you are legally bound, by divorce decree, to continue to support your daughter, you don't have much of a choice.

If you play the ransom game (witholding support and insurance) that the ex-wife and daughter are drawing you into, it will only get worse for you.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:06:42 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: dansangel

Are you an attorney?


4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:07:59 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

No, just a student of the school of hard knocks.


5 posted on 11/29/2004 5:08:27 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

6 posted on 11/29/2004 5:08:43 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: dansangel

OK, I'll tell the judge my new lawyer went to the School of Hard Knocks and he advised me to take a deep breath.


7 posted on 11/29/2004 5:11:04 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

I don't think you are legally bound to support a child over 18.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 5:12:29 AM PST by beckysueb (We sent the Liberal back to Massachusetts!)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

The advice was meant sincerely. And, from a woman's point of view, which I can now see you wouldn't appreciate anyway.

Too bad you're itching for a fight. Bye.


10 posted on 11/29/2004 5:15:37 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: beckysueb

He is if the divorce decree states that - as long as the child is in school and up to the age of 23.


11 posted on 11/29/2004 5:16:53 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Unless you are legally bound to provide support, I'd say you're best rid of all these people. Family or not.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 5:16:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Pay her tuition.


13 posted on 11/29/2004 5:18:39 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Coop

Phsyco?


14 posted on 11/29/2004 5:19:32 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII; dansangel
Are you an attorney?

Oh, was this thread only supposed to get replies from attorneys? Maybe put that in the title next time.

Apparently, you don't want to pay tuition, health insurance, OR legal fees.

15 posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:08 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

:-)


16 posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:44 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: dansangel

You are wrong and your ignorance of the matter shows. Before you give someone advice you should check the facts. The age of 23 obligation would depend on what state the divorce occured. No, in my state you are only obigated until 18. I was helping out of the kindness of my heart and the fact that she's my daughter.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 5:21:12 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

You have zero kindness in your heart.

The next time you post a self-indulgent vanity, state the facts up front instead of trolling for answers that you can rant at.


18 posted on 11/29/2004 5:24:02 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Been there..done that....Not fair? No one guaranteed fairness...right?

Lawyers....Grin...... Just make certain to get your own lawyer to properly handle your will.... (your final Grin)

19 posted on 11/29/2004 5:24:20 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Kindness of your heart?????

Wow, Father of the Year award!


20 posted on 11/29/2004 5:24:58 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Judith Anne

The reason I asked about being an attorney, is that I would think that anyone giving leagal advice to someone else would want to be very careful. Actually I have gotten in the habit of being very careful of giving advice of any kind. The bars are full of blow-hards that will tell you what to do in any instance.


21 posted on 11/29/2004 5:26:45 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

I bought the kindness of your heart part until you mentioned that you would lose her as a tax dependant. She's not the only one with money on her mind.


22 posted on 11/29/2004 5:28:44 AM PST by jtminton (<><)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
You're just making all sorts of friends on this thread, huh Your Majesty? Hard to believe you're having family issues. [cough]

But I'm a sensitive guy. Here's an attorney who undoubtedly feels your pain, and I imagine he'd be quite interested in your teenage daughter's, umm, welfare.


23 posted on 11/29/2004 5:29:49 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
"I suppose I could just drop her altogether, but then I wouldn't be able to claim her as a dependent on my taxes".

Yikes! And I thought the Ozzie Osbornes were a totally disfunctional family.

Leni

24 posted on 11/29/2004 5:30:38 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

Daddy Dearest.


25 posted on 11/29/2004 5:31:32 AM PST by bonfire
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
No, in my state you are only obigated until 18.

Well then what are you worried about? Cut off the ingrate (both financially and personally) and forget about it. If she's like any normal kid she'll apologize in due time. .....although it could be a long while.

26 posted on 11/29/2004 5:32:05 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: jtminton

What about the fact that she's living in sin? Also if I only cared about money then I would not pay tuition in the first place. I'm not required to pay it. I'm hurt by the lack of appreciation shown by my daughter. Life is not fair and courts will always make unfair desicions. The whole point of my post is my anger at her. I know that most of you are blaming me for her bad attitude and lack of respect, because I'm a poor father.


27 posted on 11/29/2004 5:33:46 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think that is the best advice I've heard. Are you a lawyer? Just kidding.


28 posted on 11/29/2004 5:35:25 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
The bars are full of blow-hards that will tell you what to do in any instance.

I'll take your word for it.

I'm not a lawyer either. But I can tell you one important thing: you're headed for a fall.

29 posted on 11/29/2004 5:35:33 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne
Just do what is right...regardless of the child's demands or the former spouses actions..... In the end...you will see a responsible "man" in the mirror and your "mature" child will respect you.

Now...if the child and mother never grow up....walk on...don't look back. (see my previous post)

30 posted on 11/29/2004 5:40:30 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

I have 6 children....and only one has been difficult...real difficult......I mean real difficult....REALLY!


31 posted on 11/29/2004 5:42:07 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: Judith Anne

You know what else? This is FR. This is suppose to be the voice of conservative reason. Nobody has complemented me on the disgust I have for my daughter living in sin. No words of encouragement for standing my ground for values. Man if freepers don't appreciate my stance, I can only imagine what some judge will do.


32 posted on 11/29/2004 5:43:09 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

This EXACT same story was printed in the "Dear Ann" advice column last year.

I vote for the manure heap!


33 posted on 11/29/2004 5:45:23 AM PST by ishabibble ((Toronto is a suburb of Somolia))
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Nobody has complemented me on the disgust I have for my daughter living in sin. No words of encouragement for standing my ground for values. Man if freepers don't appreciate my stance, I can only imagine what some judge will do.

Then let me be the first: Congratulations, and my compliments, on having a daughter who disgusts you by living in sin. Let me encourage you to keep on being the kind of father you are. And, thank you for the laughs. Sorry they were at your expense.

34 posted on 11/29/2004 5:46:44 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

She's probably livng in sin to tick you off. Ignore it. She knows how you feel. Pay her tuition and don't expect her to kiss your feet. You'll feel like you did the right thing and there's nothing she can "blame" you for.

How often do you see your daughter?


35 posted on 11/29/2004 5:47:09 AM PST by bonfire
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To: ishabibble

Send me that story. I think you're mistaken, or not telling the truth.


36 posted on 11/29/2004 5:47:42 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
You know what else? This is FR. This is suppose to be the voice of conservative reason. Nobody has complemented me on the disgust I have for my daughter living in sin. No words of encouragement for standing my ground for values. Man if freepers don't appreciate my stance, I can only imagine what some judge will do

OK...now you forced me into therapy mode..... Yes you are hurt. I'd imagine your daughter did not move in with this fellow to hurt you....she just may love this guy and he may become your son-in-law...so give it time. She "is" an adult...even though you are still providing some support. In time you may be hunting with the man living with your daughter....so...don't inflick wounds that may never heal.

He may be in a hunting blind near you...GRIN.

37 posted on 11/29/2004 5:48:44 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: bonfire

I think you're right. Not only am I going to pay her tuition, I'm going to send her a carton of smokes. I am also going to send her a gross of condoms since it looks like she will need them. I will also send her a couple of cases of whiskey and the directions to the local indian Casino.


38 posted on 11/29/2004 5:51:50 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: ishabibble

Me too.


39 posted on 11/29/2004 5:52:46 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: cbkaty

I think your heart is in the right place.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 5:54:53 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: Coop

Since you haven't let us know why or when you got a divorce when you and your wife had a dependent daughter, or if you stayed around to help to raise and teach her, my only advice would be to see your lawyer.


41 posted on 11/29/2004 5:58:55 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
It is my understanding that unless you provide support for your daughter you can't claim her as a dependent.

When my stepson was doing his undergrad work he had a part time job. But because he lived with us rent free, he qualified as a dependent until he was 23.
42 posted on 11/29/2004 6:00:55 AM PST by LuLuLuLu (Loud pipes save lives.)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII
I think your heart is in the right place.

Yours will be too....Time and distance have a way of healing most wounds..... The sin-thing is her's to deal with....it's between her and God.

The Lord knows, I have made my mistakes.....then again, these mistakes are between Him and I.....I a comfortable with that....

43 posted on 11/29/2004 6:01:01 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

You don't want advice. You want someone to condone YOUR behavior. As Judith said, you are heading for a fall. Good luck to you.


44 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:11 AM PST by bonfire
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Hang in there King.


45 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:52 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: KINGEDWARDIII


Did you just call me a liar? Dear Ann died a few years back, and the column is now called "Annie's Mailbag". I runs in my local paper and I've been reading it every day for over thirty years. It originates from the Chicago Tribune, I believe, and you can just toddle right over there and sign up for yourself.

Dear Ann was around before the Internet. Her common sense and solid American ideals were of great benefit to me as a parent. Every once in awhile, she would print up the "red herrings" and laugh at herself, saying that those boys at Yale must have alot of free time. I'm sure many women remember her good advice.

This story was printed in the new "Rainbow" version, and I recall this because I made a point of showing to my husband. Between our three children, we've paid for one prep school, six colleges/universities, one sorority and one fraternity.
Final score...two out of three are college graduates!


46 posted on 11/29/2004 6:03:50 AM PST by ishabibble ((Toronto is a suburb of Somolia))
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To: Sloth

That one set my beeber off, too.


47 posted on 11/29/2004 6:04:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Talk to a lawyer, not to us.


48 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:00 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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To: LuLuLuLu

I can claim her as a dependant as long as she is enrolled in college full time. I provide health insurance and have claimed her for many years even though she has never lived with me. Also just for conversation's sake, I have always paid support and mantained contact with her. I did take off on her mother (and her I guess by proxy) because her mom was completly stupid. Also, in my youth I made many many mistakes, but the point is that I would feel guilty if I didn't makes some kind of a stand. The idea is that if you love your kids you want them to avoid mistakes even if you have made the same mistake. My father died when I was 5 and I never had anyone around to tell me when I was screwing up. I would have loved to have had someone kick my ass even at the age of 19.


49 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:08 AM PST by KINGEDWARDIII
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To: KINGEDWARDIII

Kids don't ever learn from their parents mistakes. Pay her tuition....she's gonna need an education....just don't pay her RENT.


50 posted on 11/29/2004 6:13:09 AM PST by bonfire
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