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Sexier Posterior Evolves Almost Overnight
tHE nEW yORK tIMES ^ | November 30, 2004 | CARL ZIMMER

Posted on 11/30/2004 6:16:14 AM PST by presidio9

Swallows are getting sexier.

Male barn swallows attract females with long tail feathers, and European researchers have observed that over the last 20 years those feathers have become much longer.

"We've demonstrated quite a dramatic change in a short period of time," said Dr. Anders Pape Moller, an evolutionary biologist at Pierre and Marie Curie University in Paris, who conducted the research with Dr. Tibor Szep of the College of Nyiregyhaza in Hungary. The findings are to be published in The Journal of Evolutionary Biology.

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Experiments suggest that the males' tails act as advertising for good genes because males must be in good health to spend the energy growing them. The females, the researchers say, are particularly attracted by the tail's two outer feathers.

Dr. Moller, who has been documenting this preference for more than two decades, found that the outer feathers had lengthened by almost half an inch (11.4 millimeters), an increase of 10 percent, one of the biggest evolutionary shifts ever documented in a living population of wild animals. By contrast, the central tail feathers, which don't produce a reaction in females, haven't changed.

Over the last 30 years, researchers have made more than 1,500 measurements of natural selection in wild populations of animals and plants. Droughts on the Galápagos Islands, for example, have favored larger beaks in finches, because the surviving seeds are harder to crack. But the shift measured by Dr. Moller and Dr. Szep is greater.

Dr. Moller and Dr. Szep suspect that the agent for this is the long-term spread of the Sahara. The barn swallows they are examining migrate from Denmark to South Africa for the winter, then return by way of Algeria in the spring. The reduction of vegetation there around the desert may mean fewer insects for the hungry swallows.

"If they get across the Sahara and there's nothing to eat, it's tough," Dr. Moller said. Weaker male swallows starve; stronger ones reach Denmark. There they pass on their genes to the next generation - including genes for longer tails.

But that explanation has prompted some skepticism.

"I am prepared to believe that the birds are probably evolving, but not that climate change is the cause, simply because there can be so much else going on," said Dr. David Reznick, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California at Riverside.

Dr. Moller plans to search for more evidence.


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Male barn swallows' tails are getting longer. Females like the trait.

1 posted on 11/30/2004 6:16:14 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Oh, my, god. Becky, look at her butt.
It is so big. *scoff* She looks like,
one of those rap guys' girlfriends.
But, y'know, who understands those rap guys? *scoff*
They only talk to her, because,
she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?
I mean, her butt, is just so big. *scoff*
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like,
out there, I mean - gross. Look!
She's just so ... black!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull up tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get wit'cha
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But with that butt you got makes
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupy
I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She's wet, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!

(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got back!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em round, and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for toys
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Watchin' these bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sistas, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Til the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna role in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back!

Baby got back!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got buns, hon
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the butt ain't go
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waste is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sista, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the butt is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back!

(Little in the middle but she got much back) [4x]


2 posted on 11/30/2004 6:19:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: presidio9

Is that an African swallow or a European swallow (/monty python)


3 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:37 AM PST by NeoCaveman (http://route-82.blogspot.com (Now with 20% more stuned beebers))
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To: presidio9
Evolves? I guess every time a trait is selected out by a dog breeder or other breeder of livestock, that's evolution?
4 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:38 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: AppyPappy

5 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:44 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg! Thread degradation services available. Inquire within.)
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To: presidio9

I like big butts and I can not lie
You other birdies can't deny
That when a bird flies in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
Wanna fly up front
Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed


6 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:52 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: retrokitten; AppyPappy; TheBigB; Constitution Day; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; eastsider; ...

Mix a lot ping

7 posted on 11/30/2004 6:22:41 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9; cyborg; arasina

Dear Playboy,

I don't normally write letters like this (being just a lowly barn swallow), but you won't believe what I've evolved almost overnight...


8 posted on 11/30/2004 6:23:39 AM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Always a good day for a booty thread. ;-)


9 posted on 11/30/2004 6:24:05 AM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

10 posted on 11/30/2004 6:24:33 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Looks kinda mannish in the face.


11 posted on 11/30/2004 6:25:17 AM PST by jayef
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To: presidio9
Oh no! The tails of male swallows are becoming longer! Sexier birds are filling the skies, due to global warming, and it's all Bush's fault for not going along with the Kyoto Treaty!
12 posted on 11/30/2004 6:26:15 AM PST by docbnj
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To: jayef

Face? Didn't notice.


13 posted on 11/30/2004 6:27:32 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg! Thread degradation services available. Inquire within.)
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To: presidio9
Worst. Tattoo. Ever.
14 posted on 11/30/2004 6:28:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (Please direct all Quality Control complaints to Tijeras_Slim)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I've never been a fan of latex. Until now.


15 posted on 11/30/2004 6:29:47 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: presidio9

My "new" posterior evolved over 3 new flavors of Breyers Ice Cream and from the Peanut Butter Moo from Jamba Juice. Thanks to the upcoming holidays I foresee a whole new posterior on the horizon...and it ain't gonna be pretty.


16 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:13 AM PST by sierrahome
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Daaaaaaaaang!


17 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:58 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (This space is available to advertise your service or product.)
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To: sierrahome
LOL!
18 posted on 11/30/2004 6:33:48 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: presidio9
How can this be from The New York Times? There's nothing in there about how this is all because of Bush's failure to support the Kyoto protocols.
19 posted on 11/30/2004 6:34:40 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: presidio9

20 posted on 11/30/2004 6:38:30 AM PST by mikegi
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To: presidio9

The primary force of evolutionary development: Chicks dig it.


21 posted on 11/30/2004 6:41:02 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: presidio9

I doesn't take 20 years for them to develop on college women.

Most of the girls I knew in college developed a larger posterior in just one semester.


22 posted on 11/30/2004 7:01:24 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: Petronski

What I wanna know is if a barn swallow can really do that.


23 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:46 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

It's true, I read it in the Forum. ;o)


24 posted on 11/30/2004 6:33:14 PM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: Petronski

Bend ovah, lemme see ya shake ya tailfeathuhhhhh... :o)


25 posted on 11/30/2004 6:44:29 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

LOL


26 posted on 11/30/2004 6:45:38 PM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: Petronski

Okay, what is it with the new tagline, Petronski?


27 posted on 11/30/2004 6:49:14 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

It's from "One Night in Bangkok," a quirky song from the early 80s by Murray Head; the hit single was from a broadway play about love and intrigue at an international chess tournament.


High camp.


28 posted on 11/30/2004 6:51:16 PM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: AppyPappy

Ah haha!!! The second post-- it only took 2 posts!


29 posted on 11/30/2004 6:53:08 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: Petronski

I know the song. I was just wondering WHY a line from it has become part of your tagline. Yuh so silly sometimes.

I will now cease and desist from turning this thread into a chatroom conversation. (Where have all the good threads gone?)


30 posted on 11/30/2004 6:55:53 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

A couple of us were hijacking a thread about a week ago with a discussion of the song, and it got stuck in my head.


31 posted on 11/30/2004 6:57:31 PM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: arasina
I will now cease and desist from turning this thread into a chatroom conversation.

Yeah, you wouldn't want to hijack a serious discussion like big butts on swallows...

32 posted on 11/30/2004 6:59:31 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt
Yeah, you wouldn't want to hijack a serious discussion like big butts on swallows...

ROFL! What's worse is how many threads I've posted to lately that have the word SEX in the title. uh oh

33 posted on 11/30/2004 7:02:38 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: AppyPappy

niiiiiiice one, ap


34 posted on 11/30/2004 7:03:45 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: arasina

Have you run across cyborg and NYCGOPchick there? I always find them on 'those' threads.


35 posted on 11/30/2004 7:07:37 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt
Of course. Always. Just like you'll always find TheBigB on any thread with huzzah huzzah wimmin pix. Funny thing is, try as I might, I can't get him to post a photo of himself. Wonder why. :o)

Nice profile page you have there, BTW.

36 posted on 11/30/2004 7:11:53 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: presidio9

""I am prepared to believe that the birds are probably evolving, but not that climate change is the cause, simply because there can be so much else going on," said Dr. David Reznick, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California at Riverside." But wasn't Darwin's notion about survival of the fittest?


37 posted on 11/30/2004 7:17:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: arasina

Thanks.

Personally, I don't post pics of myself because my wife would have to fight off the hordes of amorous ladies. And she's got enough to do trying to always fight me off.

Plus I'm too humble.


38 posted on 11/30/2004 7:17:11 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: arasina

Speaking of profile pages, is that you in the THINK pic?


39 posted on 11/30/2004 7:20:38 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes. A very OLD photo. Like it? :o) Did you notice the extra hand?


40 posted on 11/30/2004 7:29:43 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

Yes, the extra hand is a nice prop! I'm an old theater techie, used to do lights and build scenery. We did Phantom in the round one time, and we had to make a dummy drop from a hole in the ceiling on a noose. We used a department store mannequin, and when the rope jerked, it kept flying apart, an arm here, the head there, the hand reminds me of that.

Cute pic~! How old is it?


41 posted on 11/30/2004 7:34:26 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt

Theatre! I started writing a sort of stage musical once and included a scene with dancing techs dressed all in black, but that's a whole 'nother story.

It was taken in my college dorm room, long ago and not really all that far away. :o)


42 posted on 11/30/2004 7:46:02 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

Historically accurate. We wore black, even away from work. But we couldn't dance very well.


43 posted on 11/30/2004 7:49:27 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt
But we couldn't dance very well.

Not necessary. I took that into consideration. :o) However, it did require singing and some jumping around with stage props. A bit from the song: "Without US...the telephone wouldn't ring. Without US...the birds wouldn't sing." LOL

hmmm...do Barn Swallows sing? (pretending to stick to the thread topic)

44 posted on 11/30/2004 7:56:29 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

So, it was kind of a Guildenstern and Rosencrantz thing for theater techs? Cool.


45 posted on 11/30/2004 8:01:09 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: ovrtaxt

Perhaps Gilbert & Sullivan or Rodgers & Hammerstein too.

stern steen stine
what is it with this name of mine
no one can say it
perhaps I should play it
as a tune toon tewn

Okay. Enough already. I have to get some sleep. :o)


46 posted on 11/30/2004 8:07:57 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

'night!


47 posted on 11/30/2004 8:10:17 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing". -- Redd Foxx)
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To: presidio9

Obviously helps them carry coconuts.


48 posted on 11/30/2004 8:12:46 PM PST by Dinsdale
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