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Vanity- Julia Roberts-graphic internet (sex) movie Closer (embarrasing, graded F)

Posted on 12/03/2004 9:08:22 PM PST by AmericanMade

Just viewed the movie Closer. It was nothing short of graphic pornagraphy. The audience could be heard almost gasping at the internet sex language. It included graphic descriptions. The film contained graphic pictures and strip scenes with many unbelievable direct sexual references.

I regret that some youth will see this movie. It was shocking to say the least.


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1 posted on 12/03/2004 9:08:22 PM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

I haven't seen Julia's movies since she decalred that folks of my political persuasion were morons. I guess she believes that this is the only way that she can revive her career.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 9:13:27 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: Army Air Corps

She has really overstepped her bounds with those who went thinking it would be a chick flick. Many older married couples were just stunned. Her image will be quite altered from this display of language. A chat room was in full dipsplay with words and descriptions too immoral to print here. This movie attacks morality to the hilt.

I have no doubt many parents will not know to ban this movie.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 9:29:16 PM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

From the South Park threads to Desperate Housewives, the Holier-than-thou (cause sex is evil, dontchaknow) brigade on FR is always on the move. After all, where would you find meaning and purpose in your lives if you weren't campaigning against "dirty" movies (even mainstream Julia Roberts movies for God's sake), TV Shows, and music videos?

Your motto: Never surrender!... Never give up!... Never say die!... What's a "free market"?... Whadda mean "personal choice"?...R-rated? Never heard of that before...Tinky Winky is a homo...the Smurfs are satanic...etc.


You know, until I read this post I wasn't sure I'd actually pay good money to go see Closer, even though I was leaning towards it (if only for the amazing Natalie Portman).

Now I know I will. On the first day.
AND I'm going to write your name on the 10$ bill before I hand it over.
AND that ticket-taker will look at my face and see the biggest, most maniacal grin he's ever seen in his life.

Have a good night. MOO-HOO-HA-HA-Haaaa!


4 posted on 12/03/2004 10:00:49 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
Tinky Winky?


5 posted on 12/03/2004 10:37:08 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (DUmmies: You keep visualizing a Kerry win...we'll lead the world and beat the terrorists. Mmmmkay?)
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To: AmericanMade
But we mustn't let the youth see "Saving Private Ryan" because it has the F word in it
6 posted on 12/03/2004 10:42:53 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Spite isn't a good enough reason to go see a Julia Roberts movie, although I sympathize with you.


7 posted on 12/04/2004 2:37:43 AM PST by SoDak (home of Senator John Thune)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
Uh, okay.

Part of the free market is advertising - and counter-advertising. You seem to object to word-of-mouth counter-advertising.

Or, is speech only free for those who ADVOCATE those things you enjoy?
8 posted on 12/04/2004 2:46:02 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: SoDak

Just wanted to assure you that anyone with reasonable taste will not consider seeing this movie sitting next to their friend, neighbor, spouse or date. It is probably a cheap way to avoid the internet sex chat charges though and get popcorn to boot for those who prefer shock theater as opposed to the true art of theater. There will be plenty that go that will think twice about seeing another movie of hers.


9 posted on 12/04/2004 5:22:21 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

I thought the previews looked like a movie with no plot and a lot of sex.

I can't stand Julia Roberts.


10 posted on 12/04/2004 5:26:26 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Away foul troll...zot!


11 posted on 12/04/2004 5:29:25 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: AmericanMade

One movie I won't be seeing. Of course, I won't see any Julia Roberts movie. Leftist Wench!


12 posted on 12/04/2004 5:30:40 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
AND I'm going to write your name on the 10$ bill before I hand it over.

You're going to write "AmericanMade" on the bill?

13 posted on 12/04/2004 5:35:49 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: AmericanMade
Julia Roberts?!



UNNNGH!!

14 posted on 12/04/2004 5:40:03 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: kassie

The movie never gets going and is only about constant partner swapping. You get every description of sex in every form. That pretty much sums up the movie. The plot was lost somewhere, but the drama is in trying to figure out which one is sleeping with who and it changes throughout the movie. The supsense was in thinking she was sleeping with her husband and cheating on her lover, but that she was really cheating on her husband and sleeping with her lover. That flips later. Gosh I hate to spoil the surprise for everyone.

At the end of the movie I looked at my husband and we both just said there is no way we waisted our time for this. As I left the theater a movie rater asked us to grade it from an A to an F. I said F and she said you are not alone in that rating! Someone else said D and someone said hey that's pretty high for this movie!


15 posted on 12/04/2004 5:40:53 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

At least you know you weren't alone in your rating.


16 posted on 12/04/2004 5:45:26 AM PST by kassie ("It's the soldier who allows freedom of speech, not the reporter..")
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To: kassie

The looks on the faces of those leaving the theater suggests that others felt the same. I would have thought she would be able to turn down low rate films. Maybe she doesn't know how to judge them. Perhaps her agents have lost touch with reality.


17 posted on 12/04/2004 5:54:40 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

"After all, where would you find meaning and purpose in your lives if you weren't campaigning against "dirty" movies (even mainstream Julia Roberts movies for God's sake), TV Shows, and music videos?"

I think you are mistaking my meaning in life for yours.

True entertainment arrives from true talent that is enriched with disciplined practice of that divinely given talent. You may refer to the dictionary for the definition of talent if you must.

This movie has nothing to do with quality or talent. It also contains a distasteful view for youth who may mistake a Julia Roberts movie as the way to live. It is a cultural embarrassment. I felt inclined to share so that others who might not enjoy shock theater might spend their time elsewhere.


18 posted on 12/04/2004 6:15:14 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
You know, until I read this post I wasn't sure I'd actually pay good money to go see Closer

Sometimes I think they are paid by the movie industry to promote these films. I had absolutely zero interest in seeing this film, now I might give a shot.

19 posted on 12/04/2004 6:19:45 AM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: AmericanMade
I would have thought she would be able to turn down low rate films. Maybe she doesn't know how to judge them.

Nope. That's not it.
She's trying to get more recruits for her side.
I forget who it was, but there was a 20th century soviet leader who said something like, "Get the young interested in sex."
Remember votergasm.org?
20 posted on 12/04/2004 6:20:20 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Lurking2Long
You sure are quick to cry troll.

Except for the part about going to see the movie, I agree with the poster.

21 posted on 12/04/2004 6:26:25 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

I understand the sex is evil argument...however at some point everyone gets disgusted with these movies, religious or not. The review was as I saw it. I am sure I won't be alone.


22 posted on 12/04/2004 6:51:21 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade


Gee, Phineas and Hazel are going to be sooooooo proud of their mom.....

p.s. I do not know or care whether that particular form of child abuse is spelled correctly.


23 posted on 12/04/2004 7:00:06 AM PST by ishabibble ((Toronto is a suburb of Somalia))
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To: AmericanMade

Perhaps I need to explain. I, too, am disgusted at hollywood today. I've not the tiniest desire to see the movie. My complaint was the other dude trying to stiffle a differing POV. I think the noob that posted the reactionary post was referring more to the comments than to the thread, but the former isn't possible without the latter.


24 posted on 12/04/2004 7:04:29 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Thanks for clarifying. The boxed in arguments of sex and censorship don't apply to every opinion expressed. It is a way to stiffle discussion and name call to win an argument. Discussion is needed for sure when it comes to matters of our culture.


25 posted on 12/04/2004 7:13:22 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

Julia's on my "been banned" list.


26 posted on 12/04/2004 7:13:34 AM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

And your point is.......?


27 posted on 12/04/2004 7:16:30 AM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: AmericanMade

I am still trying to figure out what it is about Julia Roberts that makes her so appealing. She looks like a frog, she has the mental capacity of a bag of dirt, and her movies invariably suck out loud. Catherine Zeta Jones, now there is something worth going to the movies for.


28 posted on 12/04/2004 7:20:07 AM PST by Casloy
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
As a proud South Park Republican and avowed enemy of the Taliban conservatives, I'd still have to say that your reasoning is equally absurd as any Holier-than-thou type.

Going to see a stupid (unnngh, Julia Roberts?) movie just so you can say 'Oooh, I got you good, I showed you, neener neener neener' is a juvenile waste of money. You should feel as silly doing that as the Church Ladies should feel raising a fuss in the first place.

29 posted on 12/04/2004 7:24:28 AM PST by Steel Wolf ( Operation North Korean Freedom, anyone?)
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To: AmericanMade
True entertainment arrives from true talent that is enriched with disciplined practice of that divinely given talent.

"So I thought I'd find that in a Julia Roberts movie."

30 posted on 12/04/2004 7:30:36 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Steel Wolf

I do not want to misunderstand and I apologize if I do....but if I do not like internet sex chat room movies and multiple couple swapping movie plots does that make me the Church Lady?

I hope we have an opportunity to express opinions without having blanket arguments thrown at us. Surely the taste of our culture hasn't turned to a straight porn theme for entertainment..... And if you object to that you are the Saturday Night Live rendition of The Church Lady. Please tell me I misunderstood.


31 posted on 12/04/2004 7:32:37 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade
I do not want to misunderstand and I apologize if I do....but if I do not like internet sex chat room movies and multiple couple swapping movie plots does that make me the Church Lady?

No, it doesn't. I don't think anyone should be made to approve or watch anything they don't like. I'm not a close minded jerk because I didn't like Farenheit 9/11. You couldn't pay me enough money to watch another Julia Roberts movie, to say nothing of one that's about internet chat rooms. I think that most chick flicks are quite possibly a tool of Satan himself.

But I still wouldn't ban any of them.

If people want to make, distribute, and watch stuff like that, have at it. As long as inappropriate stuff is restricted to adults, then I don't care what movies people are making.

32 posted on 12/04/2004 7:44:05 AM PST by Steel Wolf ( Operation North Korean Freedom, anyone?)
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To: Steel Wolf

My comment to ban meant to Parents who want to ban their own children (older youth) from watching them. Some adults I know think Julia is great in movies and would not think this material would be in one of her movies.


33 posted on 12/04/2004 9:20:40 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: AmericanMade

I appreciate your post AM. I don't see many movies but I appreciate knowing which ones to stay far away from and warn my friends about. Don't let the FR "Porn for the Masses or Else Lobby" get you down.


34 posted on 12/04/2004 9:42:08 AM PST by meowmeow (We are all Buckhead!)
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To: AmericanMade

I have a list of "stars" that I just won't watch. Julia Roberts heads up that list. I wouldn't go see one of her movies for any reason.


35 posted on 12/04/2004 11:51:10 AM PST by SoDak (home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Lurking2Long

"Away foul troll...zot!"

Oh, I'm sorry. You confused "person who refuses to tow the backwards fundamentalist line" with "troll".

Don't feel too bad about it; happens all the time on these threads.


36 posted on 12/04/2004 12:13:28 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: beezdotcom

RE: "Part of the free market is advertising - and counter-advertising. You seem to object to word-of-mouth counter-advertising.

Or, is speech only free for those who ADVOCATE those things you enjoy?"


Not at all. I'm merely pointing out that not everybody on this thread shares your PERSONAL OPINION of this movie, or it's "lack of moral values". You can Protest this movie all you want, and that's your right.

But your side (FCC/ Fallwell-styled zealots) is only ONE side, and you don't have a monopoly on right and wrong.


37 posted on 12/04/2004 12:22:31 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
I'm merely pointing out

Sorry...you misspelled "snidely". Hope that helps.
38 posted on 12/04/2004 12:25:10 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: William Terrell

RE: "You're going to write "AmericanMade" on the bill?"


Not really. That's just a way of pointing out how much pleasure I take in sticking it to the (authoritarian-at-heart) Holy Roller crowd on FR.


39 posted on 12/04/2004 12:26:11 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: AmericanMade
The film contained graphic pictures and strip scenes

Does Natalie Portman get nekkid in it? If so it might deserve a rental.

40 posted on 12/04/2004 12:28:50 PM PST by Drew68
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Julia? Is that you?

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41 posted on 12/04/2004 1:02:17 PM PST by viaveritasvita (Contend for the Truth of God against false teachings. Jude 1:3)
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To: Drew68

From what I've heard, yes, she does.


42 posted on 12/04/2004 1:07:14 PM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: AmericanMade
I have no doubt many parents will not know to ban this movie.

It's rated "R". And I don't believe too many people will think it's rated R because of violence, like Saving Private Ryan.
43 posted on 12/04/2004 1:08:04 PM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
I agree about the holier than thou brigade but there is just no way I could bring myself to watch a Julia Roberts movie, even if Natalie Portman is in it.
44 posted on 12/04/2004 1:18:05 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: AmericanMade
I have no doubt many parents will not know to ban this movie.

I'm sure it's rated "R" which means it is not intended for those under 17.

45 posted on 12/04/2004 1:23:29 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: AmericanMade

First off, I'd appreciate it if you didn't send any more ridiculously condescending personal messages to me. If YOU have anything to say to me say it out in the open.

A Quick little primer on me, since you seemed to want to know so much in the private messages (and it seems that I have somehow become the issue on this board rather than the content of Closer):

I attended Christian Elementary School and a secular Private High School. I work in Construction (building my life with my hands and all that good stuff). I don't have a wife or child yet; I do have a "pretty regular girl", as my old gramps would say. I am a Christian, but not a personal lifestyle moralist. I believe in Christ's unending love for us, but I DON'T believe he intended any of our most basic, wonderful sexual emotions and attractions to be "sinful" or "evil". I have no malice towards those with differing opinions, unless they attempt to use those opinions to obtain restriction of my personal activities through heinous actions like banning books from schools and libraries, banning movies, etc. I'm a Republican by registration; libertarian by practice (except for abortion, which I think is an ugly and vicious practice whatever party you belong to).

Is that enough personal information for you? If you want more just say the word.

Now On with the show.

"Cultural embarrassment" and "shock theater" are blatantly subjective, naive, and almost juvenile terms you've fallen back upon as a crutch against this movie. Can you think for yourself, or are you always riding that hypocritical "think of the children.." mantra? I'm not joking; I'd really like to know.

By approaching this particular movie from a "party-line" viewpoint, you've missed the entire point of the movies in general-- (1) to tell the story it wants to tell, and (2) to do it well. You've criticized Closer without providing a single concrete reason for doing so. Was it a technical failure? Emotional? Did it fail at what it was trying to do? Was it's message confused and cloudy? Or delivered awkwardly? Was it badly acted, written, or plotted? Just what is the reason for Closer's failure in your opinion?

You chose to see an R-Rated Drama with a strongly sexual nature (nobody forced you to see it), and a mature adult such as yourself should probably already know that Potentially objectionable content alone is hardly an excuse for condemming the film in it's entirety.


P.S.= Weren't you on another thread yesterday trying to get the Catcher of the Rye thrown out of schools for it's "vulgar" content? You would deny an entire generation of High School students an absolute classic like "Catcher" (and no book a public school could give a kid is more appropriate or realistic) because of a few swear words and sexual inferences?

Your tunnelvision apparently knows no boundaries.


46 posted on 12/04/2004 1:28:23 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: Dan from Michigan

RE: "I agree about the holier than thou brigade but there is just no way I could bring myself to watch a Julia Roberts movie, even if Natalie Portman is in it."


That's the single most reasonable criticism of the movie I've seen so far on this thread. Yeah, I never thought Julia Roberts was much of an actress (or a looker either). She always seems to be playing the same character in each of her movies, and that character is unusually dour and joyless considering the ammount of close-ups she gets for her famous smile.

Natalie is a far more effective actress (and far more beautiful, of course).


47 posted on 12/04/2004 1:54:42 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (PUNY FREEPERS: I am the Moderator-- bow down before me and await my orders...)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yeah, us reptiles don't care to see any of Julia Roberts' idiotic movies.


48 posted on 12/04/2004 1:57:16 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Casloy

The last time I saw a mouth like Julia's it had a hook in it.


49 posted on 12/04/2004 1:58:03 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

I have no problem with people who wish to see these movies, they know what they are getting. What I object to is being exposed to smut (like the Desparate Housewives skit on Monday Night Football, the Super Bowl 'wardrobe malfunction') where you shouldn't expect to see it.


50 posted on 12/04/2004 2:00:43 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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