Posted on 12/05/2004 11:17:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Researchers are preparing to test the highly controversial theory of a San Diego scientist, J. Marvin Herndon, who thinks a huge, natural nuclear reactor or "georeactor" -- a vast deposit of uranium several miles wide -- exists at Earth's core, thousands of miles beneath our feet... [I]t might help to explain otherwise puzzling phenomena of planetary science, such as fluctuations in the intensity of Earth's magnetic field... If Herndon's theoretical nuclear reactor really exists, then it should be gushing out antineutrinos that would fly through the roughly 4,000 miles of solid rock and emerge at the Earth's surface.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
three examples from the Google search:
America's Indoctrinated Youth
African Crisis ^ | 11 August 2002 | Jan Lamprecht
Posted on 08/11/2002 5:32:58 PM PDT by JanL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/731503/posts
Jupiter's Spots Disappear Amid Major Climate Change
Space.com ^ | 21 April 2004 | Robert Roy Britt
Posted on 04/21/2004 2:04:19 PM PDT by Yo-Y
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1121982/posts
Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip
The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 11/10/2002 | Robin McKie
Posted on 11/09/2002 5:59:37 PM PST by Pokey78
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/786012/posts
That's true, because now you are bucking so many vested interests when you propose something oppostie the entrenched establishment. Einstein would never had made it in the current environment.
"marvin herndon" site:freerepublic.com
Or just click here.
This way, you only get articles that are actually on FreeRepublic, rather than articles that just happen to mention both Marvin Herndon and FreeRepublic.
We put detectors in flooded mines to detect particles from the sun. The water provided shielding. Shielding from radiation from inside instead of outside?
None of this should be a surprise. The planet Earth is a very complicated vehicle. There is massive solar energy which uses the poles as a carrier, the generation of ozone, the interfield exchange of electrical flux between the ground/sky, upper/lower atmosphere, upper/space zone, then there are the Van Allen Radiation Belts. And those are just some of the 'causes' of the makeup and behavior of Earth within our solar system.
We can be hit by massive bursts of radiation from our own sun or some nearby cosmic event.
Oil is a lubricant produced by barely understood geological forces. What we suck out of the ground is the excess from the process.
Lightning occurs worldwide multiple times per second. Lightning occurs between the earth/sky and the sky/space.
Most of the 'dead' moons of solar system planets may be leftovers from the collision between the planet that became Earth, and a wandering planet from the crossing of our galaxy and another.
We are trying to explain the whole Universe, and we barely understand the Earth.
Ooooh... I like that... thanks, I'll try that from now on. Maybe I can build it into my template...
More precise, but less effective, because some of the URLs found in the first search are IP numbers rather than domain name. Oh well, useful information anyway, and your method turned up this.
Yellowstone More Volcanically Active than Previously Estimated
Space Daily ^ | 07/19/2002 | Brooke Shiley
Posted on 07/26/2002 11:14:29 AM PDT by cogitator
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/722866/posts?page=32#32
Herndon's page regarding Helium-3:
"One thought to consider. Three of the four giant gaseous planets, Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune, presently radiate nearly twice as much energy into space as they each receive from the Sun. Their internally generated energy, presumably from planetary-scale nuclear fission reactors, is responsible for their turbulent atmospheres. By contrast, Uranus radiates little or no internally generated energy and has a quiescent, featureless appearance. Has Uranus’ nuclear reactor already reached the end of its lifetime?"
http://www.nuclearplanet.com/helium3_evidence.htm
The Strange Case of the Iron SunIn the late 1960s, chemist Oliver Manuel made a small but staggering discovery about meteorites. He noticed that the abundances of certain elements in meteorites were distinctly different from those in the Earth and much of the solar system. This observation spurred research showing that our solar system probably formed from material generated in many different stars. For Manuel, it also spawned a radical theory about the origins of our solar system, which he has doggedly pursued for forty years. Nearly all astronomers agree that the Sun and the rest of the planets formed from an amorphous cloud of gas and dust 4.6 billion years ago. But Manuel argues, based on his compositional data, that the solar system was created by a dramatic stellar explosion--a supernova--and that the iron-encased remnant of the progenitor star still sits at the center of the Sun.
by Solana Pyne
Jovian Planets
Eric W. Weisstein
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/JovianPlanets.html
"Jupiter is so massive that H2 probably becomes metallic... Jupiter is also warm enough so that He should be miscible in the liquid metallic hydrogen. Because Saturn is less massive than Jupiter, the transition to metallic hydrogen may occur at r 0.45 . Since Saturn is smaller, it will have a cooler interior, so He will have begun to precipitate in the H liquid. A silicate-metallic core should be at the planets center. Uranus and Neptune are not massive enough to convert hydrogen to a metallic state. However, it is likely that a mixture of water and hydrogen is surrounding a rocky core. A liquid ocean between the two is also possible."
You might also be interested in the new scholar.google.com, which indexes articles in scholarly journals. For example, searching for Marvin Herndon on scholar.google.com turns up 11 results, some of which are publicly available.
Yeah, thanks again, someone pointed that out the other day, and I've been using it a little (and for a couple years or so, http://www.scirus.org/).
from a "Google Scholar" search.Solar System Formation DeducedAspects of our Solar System’s formation are deduced from observations of the chemical nature of matter. Massive cores are indicative of terrestrial-planet-composition-similarity to enstatite chondrite meteorites, whose highly-reduced state of oxidation may be thermodynamically stable in solar matter only at elevated temperatures and pressures. Consistent with the formation of Earth as envisioned by Arnold Eucken, thermodynamic considerations lead to the deduction that the terrestrial planets formed by liquid-condensation, raining out from the central regions of hot, gaseous protoplanets. The mass of protoplanetary-Earth... is similar to the mass of Jupiter... Hans Suess and I demonstrated from thermodynamic considerations that the oxidized iron content of the silicates of ordinary chondrites is inconsistent with formation from solar matter, as purported by the “equilibrium condensation” model, and instead is indicative of their formation from a gas phase depleted in hydrogen by a factor of about 1000 relative to solar composition (Herndon & Suess 1977). Subsequently, I showed that oxygen depletion, relative to solar matter, was also required, otherwise essentially all of the elements would be observed combined with oxygen as they are in the hydrous C1 carbonaceous chondrites (Table 1). I also showed that if the mineral assemblage characteristic of ordinary chondrites could exist in equilibrium with a gas of solar composition, it is at most only at a single low temperature, if at all (Herndon 1978). Such a mineral assemblage, therefore, cannot legitimately be assumed to be a primary Solar System condensate. Instead, the ordinary chondrite meteorites appear to have formed from a mixture of two components, re-evaporated after separation from solar gases, one component being an oxidized primitive matter like C1 chondrites, the other being a partially differentiated planetary component from enstatite-chondrite-like matter (Herndon 2004b).
from Observations of Matter
by J. Marvin Herndon
August 9, 2004
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Solar Abundance of the ElementsAbstract. When photospheric abundances are corrected for the mass fractionation seen across the isotopes of solar wind implanted noble gases, the most abundant elements in the bulk Sun are the same ones Harkins found in 1917 to comprise 99% of ordinary meteorites: Fe, Ni, O, Si, S, Mg and Ca. The nuclei of these elements are products of advanced stellar evolution. Nuclear systematics suggest the possibility of a short-range n-n repulsion (10-22 MeV/nucleon) that might generate part of its luminosity if the Sun formed on the collapsed core of a supernova. The remainder may then come from fusion of H generated by neutron decay.
O. Manuel, C. Bolon and A. Katragada
Nuclear Chemistry, University of Missouri
Nuclear georeactor origin of oceanic basalt 3He/4He, evidence, and implicationsNuclear georeactor numerical simulation results and the observed high 3He/4He ratios measured in Icelandic and Hawaiian oceanic basalts indicate that the demise of the georeactor is approaching, but the time is not yet precisely determined. As the georeactor dies, the geomagnetic field that it presumably powers after a time will begin to collapse. But unlike previous geomagnetic collapses, that have restarted and re-energized the field, a time will come when the actinide fuel of the georeactor is too diminished to initiate self-sustaining neutron-induced chain reactions; the georeactor will die and sometime thereafter the geomagnetic field will die and will not restart. At some point in time after the georeactor dies, there will be no geomagnetic field and life on Earth will never be the same. The challenge now is to determine precisely the time of georeactor demise. Within the present level of uncertainty, one cannot say whether that time will come in the next century, in the next millennium, in a million years, or in a billion years. But one thing is certain: georeactor demise will occur.
J. Marvin Herndon
Proceedings of The National Academy of Sciences
2003 March 18
The Centers of PlanetsBack in 1935, Eugene Wigner, one of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics and at the time a professor at Princeton University, suggested that hydrogen, an inert molecular gas at ambient conditions, could turn into a metallic solid, similar to lithium or sodium, at sufficiently high pressure. Wigner's proposal implied a remarkable complexity for "element one," the simplest chemical entity, one electron bound to one proton... Jupiter's magnetic field, first measured by Voyager spacecraft, is ten times stronger than Earth's, and its pattern is considerably more complex. Part of this complexity could be accounted for if the source of the field lay much farther from the center, in relative terms, than does Earth's. Wigner's prediction of metallic hydrogen was based on a simplified analysis of the electronic ground state, but the pressure he calculated for the transition to the metallic state, about 250,000 atmospheres, corresponded to a depth of less than one-twentieth of the planetary radius of Jupiter. In other words, most of the solar system's largest gas giant had to be in a metallic state -- although the metallic hydrogen would have to be a fluid rather than a solid to provide dynamo action... The fact is that the Earth's core is not pure iron but contains about 10 percent (by weight) of other constituents. If you compare the density of the outer core that is derived from seismological data with that of pure iron shocked to comparable pressures and temperatures, the core's density turns out to be about 10 percent lower. Even when the melting temperature of pure iron is accurately known at 2 million to 4 million atmospheres of pressure, we will still have to make a correction for the effect of contaminants. Alloying often decreases the freezing temperature of a material; this is why ice can be melted by putting salt on top of it. The actual freezing temperature at the inner–outer core boundary may therefore be 1,000 kelvins or so lower than that of pure iron.
by Sandro Scandolo
and Raymond Jeanloz
The theory of a nuclear reator at earth's core has problems, the chief one being the random reversal of the magnetic poles. A reactor would be expotentially declining but during magnetic reversal events we see, in the fossil record, a weakening field(it's declined some 10% in the last 150 years or so)seems to indicate fluid dynamo currents in the outer core as the B dot origin. It may continue to weaken then suddenly REVERSE(N=S, S=N), or, as the fossil record shows, return to the initial orientation. The offset fields of Uranus and Neptune also indicate a fluid flow origin for planetary magnetic fields, not a central core origin. Also, from diamond cell/ high pressure studies, it would seem that the inner core is made of hexagonal iron crystals and does not generally participate in the earth's overall magnetic field.
It seems that the magnetic field source remains elusive. That natural nuclear reactor that was found in Gabon (it was extinct) is in the crust, so I wonder how much sense it really made for Herndon to extrapolate in the first place.
Please produce the ghost of a hint of an iota of this remarkable idea.
Dr. Seuss?
What is theory on the core of the moon?
Neither does the shaft of a motor. The windings rotate through the field on a shaft(core).
#2. There is no dark side of the moon. It's all dark, you know.
Yes, this third rock from the sun is truly a rich "mansion" as Jesus would say, the nearby bodies, moon(which I call the RC for Remnant Core, theory upon request)venus and mars are one-dimensional places by comparison. 400,000V difference between ionosphere(100km up)and earth, 1800A average current flow worldwide via lightning transfer(red sprites in stratosphere, lightning in lower troposphere). Lightweight(2.67g/cc)continental "icebergs" floating around on heavier rock mantle(mafics). Churning upper core creates magnetic field(inner core thought to be hexagonal iron crystals that do not contribute to B field)and yet long term hot spots(Hawaiian island chain for example)that come up as cumulo-nimbus like diapirs. Then just today, Spritzer telescope : dust lanes around 5 distant stars + 6th that is still in plantary formation mode. To wit, we KNOW the planets form from dust lanes in the T Tauri birth phase(the TEDF theory)but earth's birth was UNIQUE, wanna know how?
I'll ask the Whos down in Whosville.
Please, go ahead.
THe variability and reversals of the earth's magnetic field strongly suggest fluid currents that generate it by Maxwell's 4th equation, the +dE/dt term(occam's razor). Journey To The Core(to see if Herndon is right)is only a hollywood movie, nothing more. About the only way to "get there" is by micro-psi/remote viewing, any volunteers?
Can't quite understand how Herndon says the Jovian and terran dust lanes were equal in mass during the T Tauri birth phase. Jupiter today is 318 earth-masses. The TEDF theory easily explains how the proto-planets were graded/sorted as accretion vortices depending on radial distance, the gradients being gravity(drops by inverse square), thermal(by some log factor) and magnetic B dot field(drops by inverse CUBE). Thus mercury and venus are refractory-rich but have virtually no spin(counter-acting CW from coriolis effect of a contracting vortex vs CCW spin from B dot field)because the lenticular-flat proto-sun had to get RID of virtually all its original spin(into planetary orbital momentum)to become spherical. In the outer gas bags, yes, they swept up virtually all of the H2/He in their dust lanes because it was cooler but also look at the ecliptic AREAS of those accretion vortices-in-dust-lanes(vs proto-earth's).
He refers to a rocky core of Jupiter.
The Moon, being a sphere, has a core. That is, there is a geometric spot in the center of it.
Nobody can "know" what is there, so there can only be "theories". I believe the present theory is that the Moon, being the remnant of the Earth's crust and the gigantic impactor which formed the Moon, is mostly non-magnetic stuff. Compressed regolith.
--Boris
Impact-splash, as a theory of earth-moon formation, is just that : a theory, not a religious tenet to be hyped by Jehovah's Witness type astronomers. It fails on 2 counts : tiny target on the proto-earth's terminator for the mars-sized impactor to hit, given the VAST area for earth orbit crossing asteroids to orbit around in, so as to re-launch a lunar mass beyond the roche lobe. And when a mars directly impacts an earth you get some 10^31 J of instant KE release, a gamma ray burster similar(but FAR larger than) the SL9 comet fragments hitting Jupiter in 1994. Even at 4.4 billion years ago that means no H2O oceans would have appeared on earth by 3.9 B years ago. We wouldn't even BE here, as water-rich critters, if I-S had happened. Wanna know where I-Sers went wrong and what REALLY happened?
You don't know what you are talking about.
East of the Rockies/Wild Card ping
You obviously bought the I-S "religion". Fine. That theory predicts a venusian environment for the earth, go live there.
Learn some science; then get back to us.
"God said it, I believe it, and that SETTLES it" is, I remember, a famous Teaxas bumper sticker. You are a brain-washed, orthodox believer, in I-S....fine. But like all true believers you disparage other viewpoints, sounds like a holier-than-thou liberal to this conservative... And you can't come up with a plausible explanation for the existence of the earth's oceans so long ago...who is the true scientist here?
other lunar topics I've started:
A Celestial Collision
Alaska Science Forum ^ | February 10, 1983 | Larry Gedney
Posted on 09/15/2004 9:04:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1216757/posts
In the shadow of the Moon
New Scientist ^ | 30 January 1999 | editors
Posted on 08/31/2004 8:42:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1203912/posts
It Came from Outer Space?
American Scientist ^ | November-December 2004 | David Schneider
Posted on 11/25/2004 5:13:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1288537/posts
When the Days Were Shorter
Alaska Science Forum (Article #742) ^ | November 11, 1985 | Larry Gedney
Posted on 10/04/2004 10:31:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1234919/post
RUSH LIMBAUGH : "FACTS are stubborn things". Fact : there are now some 384,000,000 cubic miles of H2O on the earth, covering 70% of its surface. As per fossil mushroom-shaped beach-rocks in australia we know the ocean was already in place 3.9 billion years ago. You claim to know all things, good, please explain to the class how all this water arrived onto the earth's surface so quickly after the earth's formation...
Earth's magnetic poles on verge of flipping
World Net Daily ^ | December 12, 2003
Posted on 12/13/2003 8:38:30 PM PST by gitmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1039977/posts
New evidence for the Moon's soft middle
New Scientist | 14 February 2002 | Will Knight
Posted on 12/27/2004 2:29:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1309193/posts
Heh...
Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin: Astronomer And Astrophysicist
1900-1980
by Owen Gingerich
Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/payne2.html
In a short chapter entitled “The Relative Abundance of the Elements” there is a ticking time bomb. This is the extremely high abundance of hydrogen and helium that had come out under certain assumptions in the analysis. Although we know today that this high abundance is real, at the time it produced an apparent anomaly with respect to the assumed homogeneity of the solar system. After all, when the earth is taken as a whole, it must be predominately iron in order to account for its high mean density, and this is supported by the fact that meteorites are largely iron and by the appearance of the solar spectrum itself, which shows more lines of iron than any other element. The very important principle of uniformity of nature seemed at stake. As Cecilia herself argued in her thesis, “If . . . the earth originated from the surface layers of the sun, the percentage composition of the whole earth should resemble the composition of the solar (and therefore of a typical stellar) atmosphere. . . . Considering the possibility of atomic segregation both in the earth and in the star, it appears likely that the earth’s crust is representative of the stellar atmosphere.”21 So in her final table of abundances, she omitted hydrogen and helium.
IOW, the model is upheld, despite contradiction by the data. :')The Neon Sun: New Study Appears to Solve MysteryThe Sun likely contains nearly three times more neon than previously thought, according to a new study. The finding, if shown to be accurate, solves a theoretical problem regarding how stars in general work... The model was put into question, however, when their value for the neon abundance in the Sun differed from those calculated using other techniques... Drake said the disagreement about the concentration of neon may have been due to problems with both the solar wind technique and the X-ray method... Drake and his colleague Paola Testa from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology got around these problems by measuring the neon abundance of 21 nearby Sun-like stars using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory... nearby stars contained three times more neon than was calculated for the Sun... Drake said the same technique could be used on our own Sun, if not for one problem: the detectors on Chandra's instruments would fry because of the heat.
by Ker Than
27 July 2005
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