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Why Do Liberals Hate Fox News?
1/1/04 | Eric

Posted on 01/01/2005 7:21:22 PM PST by E-squirrel

I just visited Move On .org for some amusement, because it's always fun seeing deranged liberal TV ads, especially after the fact that they did absolutely nothing to change the outcome of the election. Anyways, I saw this ad on there "Who Runs Fox News" or something like that. I want to know, what's the deal with Fox News. Why do Liberals call it Republican News, Is it because CNN, MSNBC, CBS are very liberal and anything balanced is considered conservative because those Lib networks are supposed to be balanced? What's the deal here, I just want to know what your thought and input is, on Fox News and why it's hated.


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1 posted on 01/01/2005 7:21:23 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 01/01/2005 7:25:07 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not here. But my tagline is.)
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To: Darksheare
Thanks man, I just am tired of liberals saying "Where did you hear that from, FOX NEWS? HA HA HA!!"

What Makes Fox News less reliable than the garbage that cBS gives us?
3 posted on 01/01/2005 7:27:03 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Read Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias". It was an eye opener for me and it kind of woke me up to conservative thought. Not that Goldberg is necessarily a conservative, but he is objective enough to see the other side of liberalism.

It also made me realize while liberals like to make fun and ridicule the non-secular religous people in our land, that liberalism is its own secular religion. It is a belief system that defies rational thought.


4 posted on 01/01/2005 7:29:00 PM PST by LA Conservative (Peace Kills)
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To: E-squirrel
What Makes Fox News less reliable than the garbage that cBS gives us?

No matter what the news source, FreeRepublic will vet it like bill clinton on an intern. Electronic truth detection, so to speak.

Welcome to FR.

5.56mm

5 posted on 01/01/2005 7:31:09 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: LA Conservative

any online articles you know of?


6 posted on 01/01/2005 7:31:53 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Fox News has this annoying (to liberals) habit of presenting both sides of an issue. It has another annoying habit of not being politcally correct. It has another annoying habit of reporting ALL of the news. It has another annoying habit of reporting GOOD news on the Iraqi war. It has another annoying habit of putting the news in perspective. It has another annoying habit of...need I go on?


7 posted on 01/01/2005 7:32:15 PM PST by groanup
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To: groanup

I see what you mean.


8 posted on 01/01/2005 7:33:52 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Dunno.
I haven't ever been able to figure out the reason behind anything the libs say.
What is certain is that libs only like news that makes them feel comfortable in their self-described pseudo-superiority.
Hence they will quote such reliable sources as Al-Jazeera as being more reliable.
They have a firm grip on the media, but in their odd worldview the media isn't far enough to the left.
Though such things as Dan Rather's faked memos being groundwork for the Kerry Campaign's "Fortunate Son" ads showed not only illegal collusion but media bias on a wide far-reaching scale.


9 posted on 01/01/2005 7:33:54 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not here. But my tagline is.)
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To: Darksheare

Yes, Liberals always give links to CNN or WashingtonPost articles, acting as if those sources are more reliable than any other news source.


10 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:24 PM PST by E-squirrel
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Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. It's nice coming to forums to discuss politics, without being ridiculed.


11 posted on 01/01/2005 7:40:01 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

I'm not sure you do




http://www.mediaresearch.org/


12 posted on 01/01/2005 7:41:11 PM PST by groanup
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To: E-squirrel

Nothing dies slower than bad ideas. There is none so blind as he who refuses to see, none so deaf as he who refuses to hear.


13 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:20 PM PST by labette
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To: groanup

Thanks for the link.


14 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:34 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Try these.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11650
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=4024

It's always interesting to check out the chatter at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com


15 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:56 PM PST by LA Conservative (Peace Kills)
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To: labette

what do you mean? Are you talking about liberals failing to realize their grip on the media?


16 posted on 01/01/2005 7:44:47 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel
"Thanks for the link."

You're welcome, and welcome to Free Republic. This place is changing the world and you might as well get on board.

17 posted on 01/01/2005 7:46:32 PM PST by groanup
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To: E-squirrel
I am referring to to the religion we know as liberalism/socialism/communism.
18 posted on 01/01/2005 7:51:18 PM PST by labette
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To: E-squirrel

"Thanks man, I just am tired of liberals saying "Where did you hear that from, FOX NEWS? HA HA HA!!"


I always just tell them I read it in the New York Times. Liberals actually rarely read more than the headlines, so this answer will never be challenged! Plus, it really shuts them up.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 7:55:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Why do Liberals call it Republican News?

Because it's the only major news source that doesn't openly cheerlead for the Democrat party.

20 posted on 01/01/2005 7:56:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: E-squirrel
Truth is mental torture to them. Liberals can't stand truth and reality.
21 posted on 01/01/2005 7:58:05 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: E-squirrel
Because the existence of a dissenting point of view completely trashes the concept of "objective" reporting. Anyone who reports on news brings his or her experience to the job--or else why not just have ANYONE report on a story?--and the Big Three networks have simply tiptoed around this fact for years--they all share the same bias, so it looks like "the objective truth" to someone who has no access to an alternative point of view.

Let's say for the sake of argument that FOX is biased--then how come its straight reporting agrees with that of the Big Three? Answer: Because the hard facts ("Mr. X was shot today") are not in dispute, its interpretation that is in dispute (ABC will lean toward Maxine Waters's interpretation of the killing, FOX toward a conservative politician's). What the Big Three have been shopping around has been biased coverage but it's like an experiment without a control--you can't SEE it's biased until you see a DIFFERENT bias to compare it to.

The liberals hate FOX because it knocks their legitimacy out from under them--a legitimacy built on tainted news getting to the public without any dissenting view. We think FOX is a big deal now, but years from now, when they can stand back and better see the media landscape before and after its arrival, people will see just HOW revolutionary FOX is.

22 posted on 01/01/2005 8:14:10 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rand-ie, you're a fine girl)
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To: Darkwolf377

Nice summation, Darkwolf!


23 posted on 01/01/2005 8:30:36 PM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: E-squirrel

Liberal nuts: "The fact that Fox is always pointing out that liberals have an adverse relationship with the truth is proof of their bias."


24 posted on 01/01/2005 8:43:19 PM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Darkwolf377

At the DU they seem to hate pretty much all news organizations. The key to liking a news organization seems to be not news accuracy but news that is politically aligned with their ideology. What I like about FOX is they challenge my beliefs with data. I'm a data driven guy and I've had to correct myself several times.


25 posted on 01/02/2005 7:45:27 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: E-squirrel
The hate Fox News for the same reason they hate Clear Channel; it is a belief that because they are commercially tied to some conservative hosts that they must be evil.

Clear Channel owns Rush Limbaugh's contract. That's it. That is all that they are upset about. They will tell you it is because CC owns the most stations in America (Viacom is #2 with Infinity Broadcasting, and they don't bitch about CBS-MTV-Viacommie). They will tell you that CC is "conservative" yet when they took over Houston's talk radio station (950KPRC), they fired the local hosts, brought in some loud mouthed carpetbaggers, and management told Dan Patrick (who was part owner and former manager) to "lay off the God talk" as well as no talk of pending legislation (bill numbers, etc.). I don't see CC as "conservative"; not even in upper management. Dan's on the air now at 700KSEV (independently owned) and although he was one of the first station managers to pick up Rush's syndicated show, he'll never be able to buy the program now.

An executive officer from Fox News' parent company endorsed John Kerry. You will find many FReepers who don't find Bill O'Reilly to be conservative on every issue. I know that there are some libs on Fox News (if only to cover the counterpoint) but many liberal news/talk programs have no such "balance".

Fox News is to the right of USA Today, CNN, and the New York Times but that isn't saying much.

26 posted on 01/02/2005 12:40:58 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Dutch Boy

What I like about FR is that we are not getting our news from "one source", rather we are getting our news from EVERY source and pointing out errors and editorializing in these articles (as well as links to omitted details).

We also keep a running account of fraud and hoaxes perpetuated by the Mainstream Media. It is one thing to say that they are "biased", it is quite another thing when they make up news stories altogether.


27 posted on 01/02/2005 12:43:52 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: E-squirrel
Welcome to FreeRepublic.com.

The Libs hate FOX News because they DO give both sides of the issue.

That exposes them and the truth hurts!

Here's a little pic I put together last year.


How to Make a Guerrilla Documentary
(Liberal Campaign to smear FOX News)

''Outfoxed'' has been made in secret. The film is an obsessively researched expose of the ways in which Fox News, as Greenwald sees it, distorts its coverage to serve the conservative political agenda of its owner, the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch. It features interviews with former Fox employees, leaked policy memos written by Fox executives and extensive footage from Fox News, which Greenwald is using without the network's permission. The result is an unwavering argument against Fox News that combines the leftist partisan vigor of a Michael Moore film with the sober tone and delivery of a PBS special. A large portion of the film's $300,000 budget came in the form of contributions in the range of $80,000 from both MoveOn and the Center for American Progress, the liberal policy organization founded by John Podesta, the former chief of staff for Bill Clinton; Greenwald, who is not looking to earn any money from the project, provided the rest.


28 posted on 01/02/2005 12:45:52 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: E-squirrel

A more important question is why do liberals love Al-Jazeera? I've actually seen the local Pacifica radio station sourcing news of an attack on Israelis from AJ (claiming that it was a gas leak, not a terrorist bombing).

Control Room made many libs' top 10 films of the year list.

Why the love affair? Because they hate America and share a common enemy.


29 posted on 01/02/2005 12:47:38 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Would anyone claim that the programming (Simpsons, slutty reality shows, nighttime soaps...) on Fox is "conservaive"?


30 posted on 01/02/2005 12:49:21 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: E-squirrel
They think that everybody should think like they do. They do not respect other views and do not believe in tolerance or diversity.
31 posted on 01/02/2005 1:01:20 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: weegee
I hardly ever watch FOX. I watch FOX News all the time.

The dumb Libs say it's Conservative, but it's really not. They DO show both sides of the issues.

To me they are TOO balanced, but when I look at the alternative news stattions, FOX News is far and above the best, imho.


32 posted on 01/02/2005 2:11:52 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: E-squirrel
I just am tired of liberals saying "Where did you hear that from, FOX NEWS? HA HA HA!!"

Whenever someone says that to you, give 'em your best poker face and reply "Why, no. I read it just an hour ago on Democratic Underground." They'll be so confused they should shut right up.

33 posted on 01/02/2005 5:23:59 PM PST by grellis (Smittywurbenjaegermanjensen '08! He's #1 !!!)
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To: grellis

ahahahah I'll try that one next time!

Thanks for all the insight everyone. I know this is probably an old discussion, but I just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on the issue.


34 posted on 01/02/2005 7:17:27 PM PST by E-squirrel
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Wow, I just visited DU, what a hateful, idiotic website. MoveOn, DU, Air America Radio.com, so rediculous.
"The Al Franken Show, unfuriating liars - drug free!"
yeah you're real funny pal.


35 posted on 01/02/2005 7:24:24 PM PST by E-squirrel
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*infuriating


36 posted on 01/02/2005 7:26:25 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

Welcome to FR, even though you violated a cardinal rule: posting a vanity on the day you signed up. You can only get better...


37 posted on 01/02/2005 7:27:09 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: E-squirrel
Welcome to FRee Republic.

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. It's nice coming to forums to discuss politics, without being ridiculed.

If no one ever hacks on you here, you haven't said much.

38 posted on 01/02/2005 7:32:33 PM PST by bad company (a conservative bases his politics on his morals,a lib bases his morals on his politics)
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To: Pharmboy

Well please tell me what rule I broke. I want to learn from my mistakes for future instances.


39 posted on 01/02/2005 7:53:47 PM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel
"...posting a vanity on the day you signed up."

The majority of content on FR is responding to news and editorials published elsewhere (although there are several FReeper columnists who post an article here weekly/semi-regularly).

Generally FReepers like to see new poster get their feet wet in an ongoing political discussion. Many of the trolls who come here to spin their trash sign up and post several articles, with response to any of the comments, and eventually "out" themselves.

You've stayed conversational and rational in your posts.

For more on ZOT and the unruly hordes who assault FR every day, I direct you to the comments on the Admin Moderator's profile page:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~adminmoderator/index?

If we seem suspicious of some new accounts, it is not personal nor is it all paranoia...

Punk the prez? - Moby's anti-Bush tricks (Posted on 02/09/2004)
40 posted on 01/02/2005 10:04:13 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: E-squirrel

Why do liberals oppose fox news? Probably because it allows another view point to be aired into the pseudo mainstream media. The more people hear the truth and common sense that is reality, the more they realize that liberal policies dont work. It is that simple.


41 posted on 01/02/2005 10:05:34 PM PST by BoBToMatoE
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To: weegee
That should read "Many of the trolls who come here to spin their trash sign up and post several articles, with no response to any of the comments (to their own thread),..."

We also get blog pimps who sign up to FR just to promote their own website and never post again.

42 posted on 01/02/2005 10:07:08 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: E-squirrel
You must know why they hate Foxnews. The misconception put out by the left is that Fox is a conservative news channel. That is far from true, but since the masses believe propaganda, they believe it. The rest of the news channels which lean unashamedly to the left are thought of as the Holy Grail however. Sheesh!
43 posted on 01/02/2005 10:10:21 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: E-squirrel
It's much worse than that:

Liberal radio is airing bad jokes and worst taste (GM will no longer run ads on Air America) (New York Daily News - May 12, 2004)

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld "ought to be tortured." President Bush should be taken out and shot.

Those are a few nutso nuggets from the hosts of Air America Radio, which calls itself the new liberal voice.

"Air America Host 'Jokingly' Calls for Bush Hit"

( 5/12/2004 ) One of the leading hosts on the unofficial radio network of the Democratic Party recommended in an apparent "joke" earlier this week that President Bush should be assassinated, reports the New York Daily News. Comparing Bush and his family to the Corleones of "Godfather" fame, Air America host Randi Rhodes reportedly unleashed this zinger during her Monday night broadcast: "Like Fredo, somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw. " Rhodes then imitated the sound of a gunshot.

44 posted on 01/02/2005 10:25:36 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: E-squirrel
OK. Your own opinions, questions, etc., are considered "vanity" posts and are usually frowned upon unless a particular brilliant insight is offered. Posts should be news items or editorials. When you sign up and post a vanity thread ON THE SAME DAY, that is considered particularly bad form.

Sit back, relax, watch and listen for a while. Again, welcome--you seem sincere. We do get a lot of trolls here.

45 posted on 01/03/2005 2:55:36 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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ok I apologize for any harm done.


46 posted on 01/03/2005 11:04:05 AM PST by E-squirrel
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To: E-squirrel

FNC is highly successful, which makes the other networks jealous, imo. Considering they are the most fair and balanced news network out there, and they have very impressive ratings too-the others will continue to be left in the dust in comparison.


47 posted on 01/03/2005 12:49:33 PM PST by sunshyne
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