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Was JonBenet Murder an AIM Signature Crime?
Vanity | February 5, 2005 | Vanity

Posted on 02/05/2005 8:41:49 AM PST by Snapple

For some historical background link to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1335495/posts

Don't blow me off too fast. I am pretty up to speed on my radical (alleged) Indian groups and their activities.


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To: Snapple
carries guns, bags of knives and little thin knives that I think are burglar knives. They have a special name.

How special?

I find your theory interesting and will not dismiss it offhand. JonBenet's parents most assuredly did not kill their child. But perhaps her brother let the killer into the house.

51 posted on 02/05/2005 9:33:02 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: nuconvert
You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine....the parents had nothing to do with it.

And what color is the sky in your world....?

52 posted on 02/05/2005 9:33:36 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: Snapple
The crop circles! You didn't tie in the crop circles!

Or the Templars.

53 posted on 02/05/2005 9:34:00 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Veto!

The little filed tools that are used to pick locks have a name. Like burglar keys or something.


54 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:02 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Interesting. Boulder-ites sound like a bunch of Wackos?


55 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:06 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: SouthernFreebird

My first thought was the brother. Sibling jealousy and rage. That would have made the parents cover up for him and make them look guilty themselves. I know he was only 9 but it could happen. The one thing I am sure of is that it wasn't Patsy.


56 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:56 AM PST by Ditter
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To: SouthernFreebird
If there is one thing you should take with you whenever someone comes in here to defend John and Patsy Ramsey, it is this: They are doing so despite the evidence.

So why aren't they in jail where they belong? I like Steve Dunleavy's take on the case, specifically the police chief and DA at the time: "(They) could not catch a cold if they were naked in Alaska."

57 posted on 02/05/2005 9:41:11 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: Snapple

I must be, because your tin hat looks really crooked.


58 posted on 02/05/2005 9:41:49 AM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Snapple

I've always thought it was just a case of one parent lying and the other parent swearing to the lie.

I like the way you think.


59 posted on 02/05/2005 9:41:55 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Let's look at the ideology of the AIM leaders. They write and are in the papers a lot.

Lee Hill and Ward Churchill were AIM leaders and had both been involved with Peltier.

There is a lot on the public record and in their own words.


60 posted on 02/05/2005 9:42:06 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple; Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel

Ping to an interesting report.


61 posted on 02/05/2005 9:43:44 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: Ditter
The one thing I am sure of is that it wasn't Patsy.

Then how do you explain the ransom note?

62 posted on 02/05/2005 9:45:27 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: Verginius Rufus; Captain Jack Aubrey; theDentist
American Independent Masons
63 posted on 02/05/2005 9:51:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Snapple

Some believe Hassan Sabbah was a hero and some believe he was a thief and killer! And the word ASSASSIN came from the persian word of HASHASHIN.

Hassan Sabbah used to live in caves near the city of Qazvin (200 miles west of Tehran)


64 posted on 02/05/2005 9:55:19 AM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: Snapple

Her brother killed her, and the parents,who did not want to lose both of their kids, covered it up and obstructed justice.

How do YOU explain the parent's bizarre interference with the investigation?


65 posted on 02/05/2005 9:55:29 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: Houmatt

When a child is murdered in a home, usually it is the parent. These people usually are troubled and poor. They are drug users or alchholics. And they leave evidence all over the place so prosecuting them is a no-brainer.

I think the ransom note showed hatred to the police, FBI and John Ramsey--they even call him John in the body of the letter. They say they are a small foreign faction with knowledge about police tactics and police serveilance.

Here is some background about the Osage Murders of the 1920s. The FBI file on this is--I think--where AIM got a lot of their ideas about the lies they told at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. They alleged that the FBI was refusing to investigate "suspicious deaths" but for a long time never said who had supposedly died suspiciously. The FBI did an investigation and explained these deaths. See http://www.noparolepeltier.com

Here is some background:

In the 1920s, a man named Hale hired people to murder rich Osage Indians in Oklahoma for their oil well head rights and for their insurance money. More than 20 Indians died, but a source critical of the FBI (Dennis McAuliffe) claims it was more. I think in the FBI documents, the Indians told the FBI about 20, but it is a long and compicated file.
Hale had a nephew who was married to an Indian girl from a large wealthy family with many oil heads and he controlled this nephew.

Hale hired a bootlegger and all around criminal named John Ramsey to actually do some of these murders for money. Indians were shot, blown up and poisoned. When the home of a white man with an Indian wife was blown up (he was trying to alert the authorities I think) white people really noticed that someone was murdering Indians and that it wasn't just gun accidents, suicides and alchohol poisoning.

The Osage leaders hired a lawyer who got the FBI involved and have publically enrolled their thanks to the FBI in the history of their tribe for a job well done.

All of this can be read in FBI files and in a book by Lawrence Hogan called "The Osage Indian Murders." Hogan was an FBI agent and a US Congressman.

The Indian killer John Ramsey was realeased about 20 some years after these murders from a life sentence. I would have hoped he would have been executed, but the FBI went to court in his case 3-4 times, so don't blame the FBI. There are over 3000 pages in the FBI files that show what the FBI accomplished at a time when they were not very strong. They got involved when the local officials couldn't/wouldn't deal with the killings. The FBI went underground and posed as cowboys, medicine men, and insurance salesmen to talk to Indians who would not have talked otherwise.

Some white people who tried to give Washington information were blown up or killed in other ways, too. One, travelling to Washington to talk to the FBI was thrown off the train. So I can see why the Indians were so scared and why this was called the "Time of Terror."

Now why is this important? It is important because the AIM extremists are obviously intimately familiar with this case and (and thus the name John Ramsey) since the lies they spread about the supposed uninvestigated deaths at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation--also called the "Time of Terror" like the Osage "Time of Terror"-- are based on this earlier story of the real murders at Osage.

So why is this important?

AIM propaganda was that AIM activists were being murdered at Pine Ridge. AIM blamed the FBI and Indian leaders and policemen whom AIM claimed were FBI stooges. This myth was spread to discredit the FBI which investigates serious crimes on Indian reservations.

When the two young FBI agents were gunned down by the Indian criminal Leonard Peltier and his cohorts, AIM sent some guy with a hood on his face to talk to a writer named Matthiessen. This guy "confessed" to the writer that he killed Peltier. The writer Matthiessen put it in his book. He should have called the FBI if someone was confessing murder of FBI agents to him. This person came to be known as "Mr. X."

There are allegations that this Mr. X was a person who had the last name of Hill. It may have been Harry David Hill. I also read that this professor Ward Churchill was one of the people who orchestrated this Mr. X hoax. That is, he may have orchestrated a fabricated witness who confessed to a murder.

So the main AIM goals and tactics that I see are:

1. the goal of discrediting law enforcement--both the police and the FBI, not to make LE better, but to make Indian people unwilling to tell the FBI about crimes. This would have suited Peltier and his criminal gang who were burglars and killers. It may have also suited white leftists who wanted to discredit the FBI. They don't want the FBI to be better, they want to ruin it so that there is no confidence in the law and the government to protect people.

2. The use of a fake witness to discredit the FBI and the courts.

3. Spreading a conspiracy theory that the FBI and police are protecting a criminal conspiracy.

Now, pan to Boulder Colorado. This is the home of AIM activists and political radicals such as Lee Hill and Ward Churchill who hate the FBI and make up lies about it.

These radicals aren't trying to help Indians get their rights and improve their education and standard of living, which I would applaud. Some may think that is what they are doing, of course. And I do not exclude that the goals of the leftists and the Indian activist may at times diverge. This would account for the splits in the movement.

Lee Hill has claimed in the media that the FBI hates Peltier because Peltier is a leader of the Indian people. Nonsense. The FBI hates Peltier because he killed two of their agents and wants to get out of jail.

Lee Hill also told the media that retired CIA guys are dying of suspicious suicides. The paper quoted others to make the case that the CIA is killing agents who know something dirty about the CIA. There is no proof of this except that one CIA guy who had criminal charges against him committed suicide.

So now in Boulder it is rumored that there are suicides just like Pine Ridge Indians were told.

Also, Lee Hill brings forth a witness, Nancy Krebs, who has her analogy in the fake witness Mr. X at Pine Ridge. Lee Hill is both their lawyers. Go figure.

Lee Hill lets Nancy Krebs tells the media (while supposedly in hiding for her safety in an AIM "safe" house) that there is a gang of dangerous pedophiles in Boulder.

The fact that the cops and the FBI think this woman is a fabricator and that she has a reputation in California for the same thing is touted as "proof" that the FBI and the police are covering it up. Some amazing articles are published on the Internet that claim that whole agencies of the government--FBI, CIA, Army--are really giant pedophile rings. I believe this orchestrated media campaign against the government is the real conspiracy.

Lee Hill [see "Accidental Jurist"] even claims that someone is trying to kill him. He claims now he has neurological problems as a result of a car accident and that it may not have been an accident.

Lee Hill had a brief work experience in a California detective agency called VERLOC. One of his brief partners was a CIA official who retired from the CIA after a long career. The CIA official's company now has a different name. Lee Hill could have learned a lot of tricks from the CIA guy before the relationship soured.

The head of a JonBenet Ramsey forum claims that Lee Hill did not name that detective agency VERLOC. I don't know the truth, but it does demonstrate that Lee Hill is a source for Ramsey website information. This is a very important thing to think about. AIM people are manipulating the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation.

VERLOC is the name of an anarchist in Joseph Contrad's satiric spy novel The Secret Agent. VERLOC is a member of a moribund anarchist organization and at the same time a source for the Russian/Czarist intelligence service in London. The Russians want him to blow up the Greenwich Observatory to prove that anarchist are a problem. VERLOC (rhymes with SHERLOCK) sends the retarded little brother of his wife out with the bomb, and the child blows himself up.

Why is this company name, VERLOC, really strange?Because AIM activists were involved in the bombing of the Mount Rushmore Visitor Center in the 1970s. They had all kinds of weapons and explosives.

John Ramsey was the name of an notorious Indian killer. He was even the "bad guy" in the comic books that glorified the FBI in the 1940s because the FBI prosecuted Ramsey for murdering the Osage Indians. A little FBI propaganda, it is true, but I think the FBI account is basically true and something they are proud of. They tried to help the Osage in a very difficult time when the criminals were preying on them.

AIM activists who say the FBI is against the Indians have an agenda. And the organizers of the Pine Ridge Propaganda know who John Ramsey is. He is the epitome of the white man who kills Indians. He is a symbol.




66 posted on 02/05/2005 9:57:56 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Please see post number 57. It applies to you.


67 posted on 02/05/2005 9:59:37 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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To: Snapple

Then why haven't they publicized their joy at the death of this innocent little girl.


68 posted on 02/05/2005 10:00:58 AM PST by marty60
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To: TaxRelief

They lawyered up to be sure. So would I, even if innocent.

I find it very strange that AIM lawyer Lee Hill was bringing out fake witnesses and using clients to influence the grand jury (people got in trouble for this;it is a matter of public record)and giving "information" to a Ramsey website.

Where it counts--in courtwhen the police reveal their case and not on the Internet--Lee Hill sucks. He ran away from his court date when he--a lawyer--would be tried for assault and weapons crimes.


69 posted on 02/05/2005 10:02:31 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Houmatt
Yes there was DNA found that didn't match her parents nor any one in her family.

AND about 9 months later, a mom woke in the middle of the night due to a sound. She went to check on her daughter and surprised an intruder in her daughter's room, possibly already molesting the daughter. He got away.

The connection? This girl and Jon Benet went to the same dance studio.

70 posted on 02/05/2005 10:04:50 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Kurt_D
Well, I am not very fond of conspiracy theories anyway.

I, on the other hand, enjoy a good conspiracy theory. This one needs a lot more development and a smoking gun.

71 posted on 02/05/2005 10:05:18 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Snapple

save for later


72 posted on 02/05/2005 10:06:21 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: marty60

You mean AIM? I don't think this was some organizational thing.

Even most terrorists/revolutionaries/anarchists wouldn't approve of this sick murder.

Whoever did this is mainly a sick person--a psychopath--who is influenced by AIM propaganda in my opinion.

AIM propaganda provides a kind of self-justification, a rationalization for his deviance.

HE needs to see himself as a revolutionary instead of a child-rapist and killer.


73 posted on 02/05/2005 10:06:55 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

The Boulder police have distanced themselves from recent TV reports on DNA.

Officially, the public don't know exactly what they have.



74 posted on 02/05/2005 10:09:43 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

Ok now that has more credence.


75 posted on 02/05/2005 10:09:52 AM PST by marty60
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To: Snapple

I like to keep an open mind on these things. I don't know if you have a case or not, but it's interesting.

As you say, there may be more radical factions within AIM, similar to the Provo faction of the IRA. Revolutionary movements often--in fact almost always--produce such radical fringe groups.

In that case, it puts a new light on AIM's recent repudiation of Ward Churchill. It could be that they're simply telling the truth, and they want to rid themselves of an embarassment. Or it could be that he has had some sort of covert connection with AIM and now they are publicly repudiating that.


76 posted on 02/05/2005 10:12:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SouthernFreebird
That's pretty damning evidence.

However there is this:

cbs article

and this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1304185/posts

Both cite CBS as sources, but the second is a Washington Times article.

77 posted on 02/05/2005 10:12:57 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (THANK YOU LORD -- John Kerry is still just a senator.)
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To: Snapple

Her mother did it and her father covered it up.
Simple.


78 posted on 02/05/2005 10:14:05 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Sawed-Off Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: marty60

Read Ward Churchill's rants.

It is scary what he is teaching young impressionable adults. He is basically giving them the ideology for terrorism.

It is like what the Mullahs do to the boys in Pakistan.
They give them an ideology to justify killing.

Churchill is teaching Terrorism 101. Read what he says.

He is completely disgusting.

Lee Hill is a lot slicker. But not slick enough. HE assaulted his wife with a glock (hand gun)and was arrested for speeding and booked for having weapons (knives) and burglar tools (I think). He ran away and jumped bail.

Now here is a guy who is assaultive, who has burglar tools, who believes in an extreme ideology, who thinks the US government is a conspiracy, who gives out information on the Ramsey case to the media--papers, internet discussion sites, radio--and now he is missing.

I am not wearing tin foil to ask about that.


79 posted on 02/05/2005 10:16:44 AM PST by Snapple
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To: SouthernFreebird

It is my opinion that Ramsey is/was a Mason and had connections with the local Masonic lodge in Boulder. The Cheif of Police is probably also a Mason. They are both probably high up in the club.

One did not want to rat out the other and this is why neither Ramsey nor his wife were ever charged


80 posted on 02/05/2005 10:16:54 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Sawed-Off Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: Snapple

"It is scary what he is teaching young impressionable adults. He is basically giving them the ideology for terrorism."

Is there proof that he has taught this? All I've seen is that he's written these things.


81 posted on 02/05/2005 10:19:43 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: Conservatrix

You can make fun of this, but you don't show any evidence and can't.

All you have to do is search the papers to find what I am saying and put it all together. I am just telling what I read in many published sources.

Lee Hill.

Walter Leon Hill (official--probably)

W. Lee Hill


82 posted on 02/05/2005 10:20:09 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
I can get the Gunny Bob radio show on http://www.850koaradio.com

You can listen to him on the computer, 7-10pm, week nights, if there is not a ball game..

He has spent most of the week talking about the Churchill mess and so has Jon Caldera who comes on after him.

One of them interviewed an indian, who swore that Churchill was his friend and active with the indians.

I didn't pay any attention to the names, as I did not think I needed them again.

I listen on the radio, as KOA website is too large for my old computer.

You should go and get his real email contact and share your
findings with him, maybe he will be interested for the Ward
Churchill part of it.

I have stayed far away from the Peltier movement, so won't speak about that.

The muslim link, now that interests me.

I am finding strong communist and muslim connections to the American Indian.

At least it shows that you have been collecting your research, makes one think to read your findings.

Strange this Ward Churchill, even heard the liberals deny that he was a liberal, on the radio.

I have also heard reports that Churchill is not an indian, more for not than think that he is.

I haven't got the time to check it out, but about 20 years
ago and until recently, you could buy a card that said you were an indian and were on some tribes rolls for as little as $5.00.

I suspect that the card Churchill has is one of those.

As a 3/4 Cherokee, I have to laugh at the folks who buy a card to be an indian, when my folks moved to California and tried to hide our indian blood. (1/4 Scots)

In the 1930's it was called passing as white.......

In joining groups for indians and having an interest in herbs and history, I have left more than I joined, due to the $5.00 indians and the occult the $5.00 indians deal in.

If you dig into the AIM group, you may find it started as a communist group. The goal is always to stir up trouble, and cause more hate for the government.
83 posted on 02/05/2005 10:21:45 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: Snapple

Have you suggested your theory to the Ramseys?


84 posted on 02/05/2005 10:22:33 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: nuconvert

Ward Churchill is published in a lot of radical anthologies with all the usual suspects. I check them out.

I don't know what they read, but Ward Churchill writes a lot of books and contributes to radical anthologies.

Maybe you can check the Boulder Bookstore to see what his students have to buy.

If you have read what he writes, it's impossible to think that he teaches anything that gives a balanced perspective.


85 posted on 02/05/2005 10:23:16 AM PST by Snapple
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You write: "I am finding strong communist and muslim connections to the American Indian."

That's right. I have a degree in Soviet Studies and read radical literature. That's what I see, too.

These people are trying to cause problems between white people and Indians.


86 posted on 02/05/2005 10:26:03 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

I'm sure he doesn't give a balanced perspective.
But what he writes and what he teaches, well, I don't know.
They'll have to interview students about what he teaches.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's scum.
I also think they ought to drop the free speech aspect of this whole mess, and get him on fraud and school violence policy violations and fire him.


87 posted on 02/05/2005 10:34:10 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: angkor
"Well Watson, the game is afoot! I see signs of Professor Moriarty's handiwork..."
88 posted on 02/05/2005 10:36:11 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: nw_arizona_granny

According to media accounts, Ward Churchill orchestrated the Mr X hoax.

This was when a guy in a ski mask claimed that he---not Peltier--- shot the two FBI agents at Pine Ridge. He told this to some stupid witer named Mathiesen who was brought to a secret location for the interview--like interviewing Bin Laden.

The guy wrote this "confession" in his book as evidence that Peltier didn't kill the FBI guys.

This is so stupid. You want to confess--go to the cops; testify in court. Anyone can confess to killing someone if he can't be identified and interviewed by the police.

Of course, at times, Peltier has confessed to shooting at these guys.

So it is all BS.

Ward Churchill is a total dirt-bag mouthpiece for terrorism. And where is Lee Hill?


89 posted on 02/05/2005 10:36:27 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
I heard one of the AIM nutcases give a talk once. I was at a meeting with a friend, and after 20 or 30 minutes of unstoppable hatred directed at the FBI, America, and all white people, I told her I would have to leave. It was either that, or standing there yelling at the jerk. She taught at the same college as the "filthy Indian" jerk (and yeah, that term is only for him and the Indian terrorists who feel like he does -- not for the vast majority of Native Americans).

I'd never heard such sick trash in my life. I believe if I saw the man I would start screaming at him to this day. One of the things he mentioned was how funny it was when a wounded FBI man cried and begged for his life, and told them he had young children -- before they shot him in the face. The "professor" relished the thought. He was brimming with a mixture of hatred and glee as he was talking. It was sick. Subhuman beyond understanding. Primitive in the worst sense. Like the brain-dead foaming of a rabid animal. And last I heard he was still teaching at the local college. Showing our children the way...

So, I don't know if you're right about JonBenet, but I do believe these folks are the kind who would pull toe nails off of screaming children. Or worse. Would their type of low life hatred reach out and kill someone? It's the rabid animals they are...

I think some AIM people killed JonBenet Ramsey. I have had that theory for years. They did it to bring down the government in Boulder and to discredit the FBI and police.

90 posted on 02/05/2005 10:37:47 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Calvin Locke

If you are talking about me, it is just me and what I have figured out.

There is nobody else. It is just me.

Honest Injun!


91 posted on 02/05/2005 10:37:57 AM PST by Snapple
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To: GOPJ

Yes. So you have a sense of how violent their words are.

We are often telling the Pakistanis/Saudis etc to get control of their religious ideologues--we need to take a look in our own schools.

They are terrorists and capable of anything. Why doesn't anyone get this?????


92 posted on 02/05/2005 10:41:46 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
Yes, but just because they distance themselves from the report of DNA doesn't mean it isn't there or that they don't have it.

This case and evidence is extremely messed up and corrupted.

Knowing the quality of some of the police and forensic people around my area and as evidenced by Boulder and LA (OJ Simpson) cops, I'd lawyer up to if I were in circumstances like the Ramseys. Another name comes to mind, Joyce Gilchrist of the OK Forensic Lab.

That's probably the only thing that's kept the Ramseys from being railroaded into jail.

93 posted on 02/05/2005 10:42:16 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Snapple
We have a local Indian group purportedly advocating killing white people and starting a race war.

I've seen the police report of the interview of one of them.

94 posted on 02/05/2005 10:45:51 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

I personally believe that this is being done by enemies of our country. They don't care about Indians and will end up hurting the Indians.

If you read a lot of the writings of the late William Burroughs, these same things are advocated.

Lee Hill was his lawyer and he writes about meeting Burroughs.

Burroughs wrote a terrorist tract. I have it here somewhere.


95 posted on 02/05/2005 10:50:22 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
Yeah, they present themselves as anarchists yet they are really communists or controlled by communists. Eg. The anarchists that were trying to assassinate the Czar of Russia in the early 1900's.

Some have trouble grasping the concept that one can be anarchist and communist.

An article I read on FR yesterday stated it as, "anarchist Leninism", IIRC.

96 posted on 02/05/2005 10:55:17 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Hmmm, maybe it was, "anarchist Marxism".


97 posted on 02/05/2005 10:56:12 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Khashayar

Supposedly Hassan Sabbah's killers were high on Hashish (means grass in Arabic--I studied Arabic and knew at least that) Assassin is some corruption of Hashish.

Anyway, William Burroughs made a record where he takes the persona of Hassan Sabbah and rails against Coka Cola and all the rest of it.

I have this record. It is exactly like a Bin Laden Fatwah except that this is before Bin Laden. I mean Burroughs is from the BEAT Generation.

Burroughs lived in Boulder sometimes. He mostly lived with his guns in a shack in Lawrence Kansas.

He used to carry a walking stick with a sword in it.
And he had a tasor before any of us ever heard of it.


98 posted on 02/05/2005 10:58:00 AM PST by Snapple
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To: hflynn
I've been looking since 1996 for someone capable of explaining the Mission Impossible script. I think your the one.

ROTFL... Ping me when he does. I want to get my head around that whole 'Gideon Bible from the Drake hotel' thing.

99 posted on 02/05/2005 10:59:35 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Yes there was DNA found that didn't match her parents nor any one in her family.

That does not explain:
The ransom note written in Patsy's hand.
The lack of footprints proving someone had broken into the Ramsey home.
The appalling lack of cooperation from John and Patsy during the murder investigation.

AND about 9 months later, a mom woke in the middle of the night due to a sound. She went to check on her daughter and surprised an intruder in her daughter's room, possibly already molesting the daughter. He got away.

The connection? This girl and Jon Benet went to the same dance studio.

co·in·ci·dence ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-ns-dns, -dns) n.
1. The state or fact of occupying the same relative position or area in space.
2. A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.

100 posted on 02/05/2005 10:59:45 AM PST by Houmatt (America's own Holocaust: Abortion.)
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