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I'm a big fat quitter. (Vanity to the Nth)

Posted on 02/09/2005 10:29:25 AM PST by socalrepubminority

Yesterday I quit smoking.
I figure if I can keep a little log on how the progress is going you guys can give advice, and words of encouragement, either that or you guys flame the hell out of me, I never post a vanity again and this thread falls into obscurity.
just some background to get a handle on the situation my wife and I BOTH smoke(d), we're 28 years old, no kids, both smoked for over 10 years, I'm on the gum she's on the patch.
Yesterday was a haze, all I remember is coming home from work diving into two day old pizza and chicken wings, toped off with a bowl of peanut butter cup ice cream. the wife came home, she's a Rat I'm a Republican....I know(we try to never talk politics), it's already set up to be a rumble in the jungle, I think we said four words to each other last night "I love you goodnight".
A couple of things as I move into day two.
1. Is this freaking gum supposed to burn my mouth so much that I can't tell if I'm drooling or not?
2. How long am I going to continue to want to punch people who have done nothing but talk to me?


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1 posted on 02/09/2005 10:29:25 AM PST by socalrepubminority
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To: socalrepubminority

1. In all seriousness, I'm not sure you're supposed to chew on it long enough for it to burn. I don't know though, you might want to check on that.

2. For a long time. hehe

I'm a smoker myself, so I can empathize with your situation. Good luck, I'll keep you in my prayers!


2 posted on 02/09/2005 10:32:59 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: socalrepubminority
How long am I going to continue to want to punch people who have done nothing but talk to me?

To be honest, I don't know. I've never tried to quit smoking, but I have that urge all the time...

3 posted on 02/09/2005 10:33:46 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: socalrepubminority

Good luck. I've never had to deal with this, my parents both smoked when we were growing up, and none of the 7 children picked up the habit. (just lucky, I guess) My children finally guilted my parents into quitting, bringing up the fact that they would miss all their milestones if they kept on smoking.

You need to find something to do with your hands, along with the gum. Maybe sunflower seeds? Try not to just go to candy, that can pack on the pounds. Don't stress about the weight gain, you can lose the pounds, you don't want to lose your lungs!


4 posted on 02/09/2005 10:34:43 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: socalrepubminority

I do not have any answers for your questions but I do want to wish you the very best of luck.

Just remember not to beat yourself up too much if you relapse. Everyone has things they struggle with.

Good Luck


6 posted on 02/09/2005 10:35:42 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: socalrepubminority

The patch is easier..


7 posted on 02/09/2005 10:36:51 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: socalrepubminority

Good luck...I have been trying as well, but keep failing as I get too frustrated. Hubby quit years ago and is still a grouch. He knows better than to punch me, I hit back : )


8 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:16 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: socalrepubminority

I hope you get flamed good. When I quit I got downright hateful for about 4 days. You need a good, butt blistering flame war to take it out on.


9 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:38 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Bush_Democrat

I've tried the seeds before, I chewed so many that I got salt sores or something inside my mouth. maybe I should've gone to unslated but those taste terrible. Now I've gone to sugarfree orbit regular gum when the nicorette isn't shoved up into my mouth.


10 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:42 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: Bush_Democrat

You can do it. I quit chewing ( pack a day ) last year when my 8 year old ask me to quit so I wouldn't lose my jaw like the man in nursing home. I quit that day and have not had a problem.

I have noticed I don't get headaches as often and my teeth are whiter and better breath.

Stay with it. Everyday is one more away from it.


11 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:43 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: socalrepubminority

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

Suggestions:

1) Try the patch.

2) Buy a punching bag and get it out of your system.


12 posted on 02/09/2005 10:39:42 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: gopwinsin04

I can't do the patch, I'm to mentally addicted to the action. I end up eating pens, pencils, paper....whatever I can get my hands on.


13 posted on 02/09/2005 10:39:47 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority
Congrats! I quit almost a year ago. Start exercising it'll help you take your mind off of things and experience the rewards of quiting sooner.
14 posted on 02/09/2005 10:41:52 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: antoninartaud
I surf, but I have to get up at 5 AM to do it before work. I must get back into that or I fear for those who I love. The pent up aggression has been unbearable the last couple of days....my co-workers hate me at this point.
15 posted on 02/09/2005 10:42:13 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority
"I love you goodnight" is a lot better than "Burn in hell forever"

Hint: If you fail. Don't beat yourself up.

Dust yourself off, look at that caused you to fall off the wagon and try not to fall into that trap again.

Everyday is a new day to win

16 posted on 02/09/2005 10:44:58 AM PST by Popman
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To: antoninartaud; socalrepubminority
I agree. Hey, Congrats!

I'm sure you'll be successful.

No flames here.

Remember it's a change of lifestyle. No excuses, work hard at it... etc.
17 posted on 02/09/2005 10:45:49 AM PST by Idisarthur
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To: socalrepubminority

Just a note, David & Sons has come out with a low(er) salt version of seeds, if that helps. I've heard the oral fixation problem is a big one to overcome. There are some inhalers that some people use to help with this.


18 posted on 02/09/2005 10:49:03 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: socalrepubminority

Every time you want to light up, pull this picture out.

19 posted on 02/09/2005 10:49:58 AM PST by Popman
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To: socalrepubminority

Since Saturday, I've cut down to 6 cigarettes a day. The only time I successfully quit was by cutting down so much that I just got bored with it and forgot to smoke.

I tried the patch a couple of years ago. It didn't help my cravings at all and I was constantly crying.

Instead of saying, "no more for me, I quit!" I'm saying "no more smoking in the house" or "no more smoking in the car." Within 2 weeks, I'll only allow myself to smoke in the doghouse...and then, I'll just put down the cigs for good.


20 posted on 02/09/2005 10:51:10 AM PST by EllaMinnow (Every time a leftist cries, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Popman

Holy crap that's dusgusting, thanks...I'm gonna go hurl now.


21 posted on 02/09/2005 10:52:31 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority

I know where you're coming from...you are going to think you're going nuts for a while, but you will notice you smell better (of course food tastes better), your lungs clear out...I have gone back and forth. If you stick it out for about 3 weeks, you will want to strangle any smoker within your grasp...best wishes to you...


22 posted on 02/09/2005 10:52:50 AM PST by EX52D
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To: EX52D

yeah, but when I'M around smokers after I quit...for some reason it smells really good.


23 posted on 02/09/2005 10:54:18 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority

I used the gum and just chewed it for hours... I've been smoke free for about 3 months now...

But, I smoked less than 10 cigarettes a day.. so I wasn't so adversly addicted.. How long? over 25 years.. Oh, I'd always quit for a year or two hear and there...

Once you realize how easy it is to quit smoking, you can do it all the time.


24 posted on 02/09/2005 10:58:31 AM PST by tje
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To: socalrepubminority

Remember you're doing the right thing...look at that picture of the lung again...remind yourself what drove you to quit, and stick with it...


25 posted on 02/09/2005 10:58:48 AM PST by EX52D
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To: socalrepubminority

I quit 17 years ago (3 packs a day). I didn't use gum or anything, I just decided I'd had enough. Remember that the urge to smoke will pass in about 10 minutes whether you have a cigarette or not. And if you stop with the gum and stuff the nicotine will be out of your system in about 3 days.

The habit part is the hard one to change. Take up knitting to keep your hands busy. (Yes, guys do knit) Also, find out what time is your biggest urge. Mine was at the table after dinner. Change your routine... for me it was get up as soon as dinner is over and start on dishes.


26 posted on 02/09/2005 11:01:40 AM PST by Grammy (Candor is a proof of both a just frame of mind and of a good tone of breeding. (JF Cooper))
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Dear socal...

Have at it...
Both my parent's lives were considerably shortened by smoking cigarettes most of their lives.

The "usual suspects" of diseases/cancers were not present in either case. But their overall health & constitution were badly affected; And the long-term effects on heart (Dad) and lungs (Mom) became very evident when they needed strength to recover from other health problems.

Both died unexpectedly from conditions that would otherwise have been only minor to moderate health concerns.

Wishing you every success and blessing as you win this tough battle against a powerful addiction.

Regards,
Wings

27 posted on 02/09/2005 11:02:40 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: socalrepubminority

I quit smoking in 1978 after smoking for fifteen years. I had a two to three pack-a-day habit. For about six months, I dreamed about smoking every night. That first cigarette would be better than the best sex ever. I finally broke down, pulled into a 7-11 and bought a pack. I got back into my car, got out a cigarette with shaking hands and lit it. I drew that luxurious wonderful smoke into my lungs. And then I started coughing and almost threw up. I put out the cigarette and threw away the pack. I was cured.


28 posted on 02/09/2005 11:07:56 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Donald Rumsfield - 2008)
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I did exactly what you're doing now, at the same age. I'd smoked for 10 years (started in college) and then quit.

When I did it (this was 'some years back'), there was no nicotine gum nor patches. So, I had to do it "cold turkey".

The first two weeks were the worst. It was said at that time that the nicotine addiction would be gone by then, and that the rest of it would be mental. I would suspect that with the gum and patches, that two-week period of angst will stretch out since you'll still be getting some nicotine - just not as much as you want.

I believe that it's much more a mental addiction than a physical one. Long after I quit, I'd still want a cigarette, particularly after ... a meal, or a drink. I still twirl pens in my fingers, or find other hand-action fiddling-around activities to take the place of cigarette in keeping my hands busy.

While I was quitting, I tried to have a cigarette substitute handy in the form of hard candy for a while, and then switched to a candy that I didn't like and got away from that.

Basically, if you can get through the first two weeks (or so) it's all a matter of pride carrying you for the next couple of months till the mental associations are broken. Get rid of all the ashtrays, lighters, and every cigarette in the place. Deliberately find something to do as substitute instead of having a cigarette when you hit those moments.

It really finally,comes down to a kind of pride thing. Are you a victim of the evil cigarette companies who sell something stronger than you are? Or, are you in control of your own destiny? If you've gone five days without a smoke, it's pretty sad not to make it one more day.

Having said all that, I didn't make it the first time, because I wasn't really mentally ready to do it. Wasn't my idea the first time. The second time I decided I was ready... and now it's been about 20 years.

Oh, if you decide that you have to go back to smoking, only allow yourself a cigarette that you despise. For me it was Carlton's...something about the flavor made me more or less gag. That helped break that positive association for me...

Now: Not good luck to you, but go do it.
29 posted on 02/09/2005 11:09:20 AM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: socalrepubminority
Good luck. I quit smoking over 15 years ago. It took a few times for it to take. I actually quit once for an entire year, then started again. That was stupid!

I think I know what you're saying about the gum vs. the patch. I still chew gum until my jaw aches and my finger nails are usually bloody stumps.

30 posted on 02/09/2005 11:13:58 AM PST by rockinonritalin (nilatirnonikcor)
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To: socalrepubminority
How long am I going to continue to want to punch people who have done nothing but talk to me?

I've never smoked in my life and I want to punch people all the time.

31 posted on 02/09/2005 11:18:00 AM PST by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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To: rockinonritalin
Thank you to everyone for your kind words.(sorry, I don't know how to address everone without writting it all down and re-typing and I don't have patience for that). I'm feeling strong right now and hopefully I can see it through.
ps. I got put on the ZOT list? damn.....how'd I do that?
32 posted on 02/09/2005 11:37:43 AM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority
I used the gum and managed to quit. However, it took me a lot longer than they said in the box (over a year). Also, buying the large packs of 118 lozenges at Walmart made it cost effective. At the beginning, a piece would last about a half hour and I'd reach for another.

Yes, it does feel like you're chewing "pepper" (burning sensation). Like Pavlov's dog, I now constantly chew Trident gum as a substitute for the Niccorette.

Good Luck!

33 posted on 02/09/2005 11:46:41 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: socalrepubminority

Exercise like a crazy bastard. Get your adrenaline pumping and dopamine levels up after workouts by having a few mixed drinks. You'll be too exhausted to smoke, and you'll train yourself to be able to drink and not crave a cig. Social drinking is where I always relapse.

Nearly the same age, smoking as long, quit in Nov., have had two packs since then(when out drinking). Can run a mile in under 8 minutes for first time since I started smoking.

Cardio exercise is the answer. Bike, jog, swim, martial arts, boxing, exercise with the wife, get to the point you're hacking up lung as soon as possible.

Also, a heavy bag helped with the need to punch stuff instincts.


34 posted on 02/09/2005 12:28:22 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: socalrepubminority
One more thing, with the fixation on holding a cig to thew lips after a meal, a drink, during the morning driving commute, etc, I found this stuff, Original Fruit Leather. It's like fruit rollups from when we were kids, but healthy, and each one last about as long as a cig. Try a few, then buy in bulk, they are a bit expensive. Better then using an inhaler that looks like a tampon applicator, still can't believe they thought that product designed like that would survive in the market place.
35 posted on 02/09/2005 12:40:25 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: EX52D

I get up in the morning and go all day, then I have one when I get home.....it's weird as I have smoked for the last ten years. The weekends are worse.


36 posted on 02/09/2005 12:50:52 PM PST by freebird5850 ("Tell the truth, there's less to remember!")
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To: socalrepubminority

Try the 12 steps...


37 posted on 02/09/2005 1:27:42 PM PST by alisasny (We get 4 more years, you get OBAMA...: ))
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To: socalrepubminority

You made it through a day!!

One day at a time!!

38 posted on 02/09/2005 1:48:22 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: socalrepubminority

I quit over 3 years ago, when my children disappeared! I promised God that if he would bring my children home, I would quit!

2 hours before I picked them up...I smoked my last cigarette (I still had 8 packs out of a carton that I gave away). I quit cold-turkey. I was really motivated...but I found this easier than the other times I had tried using gums and patches.

I will keep you and your wife in my prayers! Good luck and keep us updated.


39 posted on 02/09/2005 1:53:45 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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how did your children disappear?
40 posted on 02/09/2005 2:26:49 PM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority

Good for you!

Good luck!

Stay out of the bars and lay off the booze for a week, after the third round after softball was when I always gave in.

Hope you make it


41 posted on 02/09/2005 2:30:31 PM PST by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH)
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To: socalrepubminority

My ex husband took off with them. He hid out for 3 weeks...finally going to the court house in the town he ran to, and filed for custody...saying I didn't want them, had given him permission to take them, and was abusive to them.

Here is the link to the FR thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/575227/posts


42 posted on 02/09/2005 3:00:40 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: trussell

I'm really sorry to hear about that, but glad it all worked out and you quit smoking to boot.


43 posted on 02/09/2005 3:44:08 PM PST by socalrepubminority (Disenfranchised republican youth of the socialist republic of California)
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To: socalrepubminority
You might give a try to Commit lozenges (made by Nicorette); they've worked better than the gum for me - but I think the patch is a tiny bit better.

Not that I'm the expert; still smoking...but there's a box in my underwear drawer where I have to look at it every morning.

44 posted on 02/09/2005 5:29:01 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: socalrepubminority

Hey good luck. I've never smoked, though I've spent years and years making a living in bars breathing everyone else's smoke.

Take care of your marriage, though. I'm more concerned about your not speaking to your wife. Don't let the detox wreck your home. Maybe when you get the urge to smoke, kiss your wife till you get a different urge. Heh! Seriously, don't fight when you're both chemically challenged. Talk it out.

Hope it goes okay!


45 posted on 02/09/2005 7:30:02 PM PST by Big Giant Head (Barring all differences, they're identical.)
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To: socalrepubminority
Can't answer your question about the gum or any other crutches that are being sold to help folks stop smoking. Most of them contain nicotine. Why would you want to continue putting nicotine into your body when you're addicted to it? All you're doing is changing the delivery system: Instead of lighting up and inhaling your nicotine supply, you're chewing it or you're sticking a patch of it onto your body; and you're spending good money to purchase things that aren't really necessary if you want to quit.

It's okay to use a crutch, if you think you must; but it's possible to quit cold turkey. IMO, you just have to be really ready to quit. I mean: I did so--after more than 50 years. I learned (among other things) that kicking the smoking "addiction" is 99% mental and 1% physical; and that the "urge" for that next cigarette passes within 3 minutes. Go to the following URL for some real help:

http://www.quitsmokingonline.com
Hang in there!
46 posted on 02/09/2005 7:33:19 PM PST by Longwalled Newbie
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To: socalrepubminority

good luck. no booze+walking off the cravings worked for me. walk no matter what the weather. this helped keep the weight down, too.


47 posted on 02/09/2005 8:31:08 PM PST by dynachrome ("hmmmm, I'll have to think about it")
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To: socalrepubminority
It's good to quit. I did it cold turkey and I'm glad. However, for at least 2 weeks, I stayed away from people who smoked and stayed away from places where people smoked. It was too tempting so I gave it up for two weeks, till I was over the hump. That was the key. You can do it.
48 posted on 02/10/2005 4:43:57 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons)
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To: trussell

Very glad you got your kids back. Those antagonists on your thread deserve the Hell they will receive when their lives end.


49 posted on 02/10/2005 7:16:59 AM PST by TheRatHunter
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To: reformedliberal

ping


50 posted on 02/10/2005 8:32:56 AM PST by Hiskid (Jesus Christ is Lord over the United States of America)
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