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In response to "Feminism, Rape and Unpretty Data"

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:27:02 PM PST by Girl_in_Red

This comment is in response to an article I recently read on this site when doing a search for rape conviction sentencing. I was horrified to see such a short sighted article, infering based upon the "information" provided that rape accusals are abused and lacking in credibility. As a rape survivor myself, I find this a hard arguement to swallow to say nothing of buy into. The reason I never went through with pressing charges is no one believed me and it was too emotionally raw to keep pursuing. It is harder than anything to get someone to belive you were raped, even if, like myself, you are a model student, you have an excellent reputation and you have the bruises to boot. So to all you short-sighted individuals, please consider both sides of the story. Until you have had your life turned upside down physically and emotionally by someone else's desires and selfishness, watch what you say about rape convictions. Check the stats about unreported cases first, talk to your female friends because guess what? One in three were probably sexually assaulted at some point in their lives all ready.


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1 posted on 03/08/2005 8:27:02 PM PST by Girl_in_Red
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To: Girl_in_Red

Hmmmmm.

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 03/08/2005 8:28:31 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Girl_in_Red
Interesting first post on Free Republic.

Welcome to the cattery.

3 posted on 03/08/2005 8:29:02 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: Girl_in_Red

I know such rape is common and I'm sorry it happened with you.

What would you tell women to help keep them from being targets? Also, what would you want men to do?


4 posted on 03/08/2005 8:32:15 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Girl_in_Red

Surprised this thread's still here!

Don't you think this is something best discussed elsewhere, or with a P-sychiatrist?


5 posted on 03/08/2005 8:34:41 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Girl_in_Red

Ever read the article about the Viking Kitties and the Troll? It ends with a Zot!


6 posted on 03/08/2005 8:37:43 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: ConservativeMind

Also, what would you want men to do?"

G_I_R seems to not be responding, so I'm guessing she wants you to talk to your female friends, because, guess what?


7 posted on 03/08/2005 8:40:21 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Girl_in_Red
I am not a female but your point is well taken. Unfortunately, as in many kinds of situations, the few make it hard for the rest. Some scream rape falsely. Some cry abuse falsely. Some steal. Some cheat. Some take steroids. Those people make it difficult for those who don't because society exist mainly within a voluntary social contract, agreeing to act responsibly.

I am sorry you are one of the ones that have suffered but, for my part, I believe you and thank you for warning us all.
8 posted on 03/08/2005 8:41:50 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Girl_in_Red
I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you.

I hope that you are now armed, and trained to shoot if it ever becomes necessary.

9 posted on 03/08/2005 8:42:09 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Girl_in_Red
This comment is in response to an article I recently read on this site when doing a search for rape conviction sentencing. I was horrified to see such a short sighted article, infering based upon the "information" provided that rape accusals are abused and lacking in credibility.

If such a thing happened to you, then I know no legitimate person on this site would be against you, and would empathize with you.

However, your lack of reference to the post that upset you, and your being a new signer upper, this initial post seems a bit suspicious.

10 posted on 03/08/2005 8:47:59 PM PST by easonc52
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To: Girl_in_Red

Your subject is not often or maybe ever covered here.
The tone and tempo is varied ,animated,contentious and infuriating...and at times astoundingly caring.
It's hard to predict how a thread like this will go.
Welcome. Now hang on!


11 posted on 03/08/2005 8:48:21 PM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

Maybe it's covered here, DU cries rape, dated 12/04...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1293024/posts


12 posted on 03/08/2005 8:53:14 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Girl_in_Red
Without a direct reference (such as a link) to the original article that caught your attention there is little to be discuss here except opinions ~ which, of course, are not Breaking News. With a such a direct reference (link) this post may have resulted in an interesting thread.

Why not spend some time on Free Republic reading the articles and comments ~ getting a feel for the place and for the folks who post here. Newbies who've not taken the time required to become aware of (or who are insensitive to) the policies and procedures of FR will find the response to their vanity posts ... en-lightning.



13 posted on 03/08/2005 8:55:24 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Theresawithanh
sheesh - I'm glad I missed that thread the first time around -



14 posted on 03/08/2005 8:58:04 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Theresawithanh
Maybe it's covered here, DU cries rape, dated 12/04...

They must have hired an Independent (or Republican) to write that piece...

15 posted on 03/08/2005 9:00:10 PM PST by easonc52
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To: Girl_in_Red

Sadly, a large number of them (up to half in some studies) do turn out to be bogus, where "bogus" means there is no physical evidence that a crime occurred, there are no third-party witnesses, and the accuser subsequently and unambiguously recants the charge. Why do women bring these false charges? The top 3 reasons given are spite, anger, and to have an alibi.

The women who do this make it very difficult for women who are actually raped. The ones who don't recant are even worse. How many of these stories do we want to read?

This is a tough thing for the authorities to sort out.

16 posted on 03/08/2005 9:02:46 PM PST by Nick Danger (The only way out is through)
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To: Girl_in_Red

I can't find an article post on the system that would match up with your concern. I've used your title elements and the "rape sentencing" you mentioned for your research.

Are you posting on the right website?


17 posted on 03/08/2005 9:06:29 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Girl_in_Red; MeekOneGOP

Ping-Ping-Ping


18 posted on 03/08/2005 9:10:29 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: ConservativeMind
Are you posting on the right website?

I doubt that the alleged post ever existed. I think we have a T-R-O-L-L attack in progress.

19 posted on 03/08/2005 9:13:27 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989
I doubt that the alleged post ever existed. I think we have a T-R-O-L-L attack in progress.

There's also the hit and run thingie... lol

20 posted on 03/08/2005 9:18:35 PM PST by easonc52
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To: easonc52; Girl_in_Red

No! You think Girl_In_Red is a Hit_&_Run?

Me, too. Can't imagine what kind of jollies a poster can get from such a post, I'd at least reply and make it worth my while.


21 posted on 03/08/2005 9:26:22 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Girl_in_Red
no one believed me

You might be believed if you would have just posted this "rant" to the phantom article you refer to.

22 posted on 03/08/2005 9:30:07 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Today's victim is tomorrow's suspect.)
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To: shotokan
You might be believed if you would have just posted this "rant" to the phantom article you refer to.

Oh, but that would be too easy and would make way too much sense!

23 posted on 03/08/2005 9:52:54 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Zacs Mom

I wouldn't want to be standing outside in that storm! Might that be Tucson AZ?


24 posted on 03/08/2005 9:58:11 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989
I wouldn't want to be standing outside in that storm!


lol - when I saw this image I thought I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that city........I can just image how that must hove sounded!!


We get some really awesome thunder storms here in Texas (especially in the spring) and sometimes my windows and the dishes in my cupboards actually rattle around from the concussion of the thunder clap! The close by strikes are deafening!


Still, I enjoy the storms ~ as long as tornadoes aren't funneling down out of em!! After seeing the vast and total devastation in the Oklahoma City area first hand a few years back I have to admit my fear of tornadoes runs pretty deep.


I don't know where this particular photo was taken - a friend emailed it to me quite awhile back. I wish I knew though - I'd like to know if the photo is actual (with all of those simultaneous strikes) or if it is a composite of some sort.

25 posted on 03/08/2005 10:15:36 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Girl_in_Red

Were you referring to one of these threads ?

Rape Treatment Guidelines Assailed (Dilemma Alert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315543/posts

Also there is also a little something called "Date Rape." A woman drinks way too much and it doesn't matter if the man is also intoxicated. If they end up sleeping together, it is rape.
Crap.

If she doesn't say no and is not forced or surreptitiously drugged it's not rape.

You cheapen the horror of real rape by allowing irresponsible people to claim ex post facto rape after they change their minds later.


13 posted on 01/06/2005 6:04:21 PM EST by jimt



KOBE SURPRISE
Posted on 02/03/2005 7:05:54 AM EST by Hawk44
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1334915/posts#1

February 3, 2005 -- Kobe Bryant's accuser unexpectedly showed up at yesterday's pretrial hearing in her sex-assault civil suit, wearing a wedding ring, with a nervous husband at her side — and a baby on the way.
>>>


The bimbo, her druggie husband and their soon to be born crack baby continue their quest for the gold. This makes me want to puke.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 7:05:54 AM EST by Hawk44





http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089340/posts

To: TankerKC; FITZ; sinkspur; Smogger; aruanan
Wow! This is how callous it can actually get I guess. I am vicious when I attack the Democrats on FR. But this is a different situation. This is a human being who at the very least MAY have been raped (I believe personally that she was). You guys are joking about her, posting things like "pearl necklace, calling me ignorant, etc. The only point of contention you have is statements made by the defense attorney. Before you callously attack the girl, why don't we see if what they are saying is true?

103 posted on 03/02/2004 9:18:31 PM EST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland and Larry Flynt are the same person)


26 posted on 03/08/2005 10:41:24 PM PST by Selkie (Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.)
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To: Girl_in_Red; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; glock rocks; ...
Welcome to FreeRepublic.com.

27 posted on 03/09/2005 6:32:32 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Girl_in_Red

Since when does being a victim make you a knowitall?


28 posted on 03/09/2005 6:33:41 AM PST by RushCrush (I like America to some extent. -Michael Moore)
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To: Girl_in_Red
Link to story in question?


29 posted on 03/09/2005 6:36:27 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: Girl_in_Red

I am sorry that you were raped and I CAN sympathize....but what article are you referring to? Be more specific, please. Oh, and welcome to Free Republic.......I think.


30 posted on 03/09/2005 6:36:59 AM PST by PilloryHillary (I lead a simple, heteronormative exsistence.)
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To: Girl_in_Red

I forgot what I was gonna say.

 

31 posted on 03/09/2005 6:37:14 AM PST by Fintan (Am I indecisive? Well, yes and no...)
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To: Girl_in_Red

I don't see any record of the article on FR. (search is your friend). It may have been pulled, or you may have the wrong site.

I'll have my kitty check it out, too.


32 posted on 03/09/2005 6:39:02 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Bekaa to the future!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

ROTFLMAO!

I need you to doctor up one of my kitty's photos. Perhaps with a pancake!


33 posted on 03/09/2005 6:39:17 AM PST by RushCrush (I like America to some extent. -Michael Moore)
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To: Girl_in_Red

What....no responses to anyone? Cat got your tongue?

34 posted on 03/09/2005 6:41:17 AM PST by PilloryHillary (I lead a simple, heteronormative exsistence.)
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To: Girl_in_Red

Hi, troll.

Bye, troll.


35 posted on 03/09/2005 6:42:31 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I live in Michigan, but even if I lived in Kuala Lumpur I'd still think you were an idiot.")
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To: RushCrush; MeekOneGOP

MeekOneGOP is the resident Pancake King. Meek!


36 posted on 03/09/2005 6:47:38 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: bikepacker67; MeekOneGOP
The misspellings always give them away.

Are there no spell check buttons in Trollsville?
37 posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:18 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If you cut your sex organ and then eat it, then something is wrong with you!!!)
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To: ConservativeMind; Girl_in_Red
I know such rape is common and I'm sorry it happened with you.

What would you tell women to help keep them from being targets? Also, what would you want men to do?

I was sexually abused by my daughter's dad...three guesses as to how I got pregnant. I was very terrified of him.

Before moving back to the same city where he lives (and where the rest of my family is) I plan on buying a rifle. I am not scared of larger weapons, but it may look strange if I try buying the weapon of choice (M-16) so a rifle will have to do. Maybe that will give him the hint as to what might happen if he tries to come near me again.

38 posted on 03/09/2005 7:22:36 AM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Do you know how to use a weapon? If not, the NRA has classes. Better if you know how to use it. Less chance of not using it properly and having it used on YOU.


39 posted on 03/09/2005 7:30:49 AM PST by Hi Heels (Trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. Twain)
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To: SlowBoat407
I'm pretty sure the article she is refering to is here.

However, Girl in Red, if you wanted people to take you seriously and understand what you were talking about, you should have posted this as a reply to the original article.

40 posted on 03/09/2005 7:31:17 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (I consided getting highlights; but my smugness is easier to maintain.)
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To: Hi Heels

I learned how to use the M-16 in the army. It just isn't something to slip in my purse these days...


41 posted on 03/09/2005 7:37:03 AM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Girl_in_Red
Check the stats about unreported cases first, talk to your female friends because guess what? One in three were probably sexually assaulted at some point in their lives all ready.

**************

How do we know what the stats are if the cases are unreported?

42 posted on 03/09/2005 7:39:27 AM PST by trisham
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To: MeekOneGOP
Welcome to Free Republic


43 posted on 03/09/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by Lady Jag (Honor and dignity)
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Girlfriend, you need a bigger purse!! < /jkg >


44 posted on 03/09/2005 8:28:45 AM PST by Hi Heels (Trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. Twain)
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To: Girl_in_Red; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...
This passes the *sniff* test...


45 posted on 03/09/2005 8:58:41 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Girl_in_Red

As a man who was falsely accused of rape, I can tell you that false accusations do happen.
Usually as a bit of vengeance or 'pay back' for 'wrongs' real or imagined.
Thankfully I wasn't arrested.
It came out that my accuser was lying, and they kept changing their story.

As a result, I have zero patience for people who HAVE commited rape, or those who claim it.
Unfortunate result of experience, but it happened and my level of trust in what people claim is nil.


46 posted on 03/09/2005 9:03:20 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Check out my response in post 46.
If it's a troll, it'll likely feel insulted.


47 posted on 03/09/2005 9:05:37 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Girl_in_Red; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; Constitution Day; VRWCmember; Poohbah; dighton; ...

Got ozone?


48 posted on 03/09/2005 9:06:28 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: Darksheare

Wow, You shot sabot at her..., You know I always got your "six".


49 posted on 03/09/2005 9:08:40 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Tankers were kind enough to lend me a sabot round.
Being artillery, all I had was the APERS-T.
Kinda overkill actually.


50 posted on 03/09/2005 9:10:45 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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