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American Idol 2005--Live Thread
3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by silent_jonny

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To: silent_jonny; texasflower

I may have to go get the CD myself. By the way, yesterday while at the grocery store,in the checkout lane I look over at the magazines. And the Enquirer had the headline about Carrie's affairs with Anthony and Bo. AI must love the publicity all these speculations about Carrie's love life bring to them.


10,681 posted on 06/11/2005 6:19:19 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (Every time a system is made fool proof-a new class of fool emerges.)
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To: silent_jonny; texasflower
I'll be interested in what you think of the whole album. Kelly does have a wonderful voice. To me, the amazing thing is that every vocal on the album is her alone. No backup singers. She sang every part. I liked "Breakaway" so much that I bought her first album "Thankful." Although the songs on it aren't as good as the ones on "Breakaway," I enjoy several of them because of her wonderful voice. In one she almost sounds like Patsy Cline -- not the country twang, but in the way her voice has a catch like her heart's breaking.

BTW, now that there's a litte distance from the end of this year's competition, I find myself eagerly looking forward to both Bo's and Carrie's CDs. Musically speaking, I truly like them both. I actually am pleased their styles are so very different from each other.

As of last night, Amazon had Bo #1 and Carrie #3 on their hit predictor list. If Amazon's prediction is correct, they will both have hits, which feels right to me.

10,682 posted on 06/11/2005 8:10:00 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: EmilyGeiger; silent_jonny; texasflower
And the Enquirer had the headline about Carrie's affairs with Anthony and Bo. AI must love the publicity all these speculations about Carrie's love life bring to them.

It's funny because Carrie's Mom denies that Bo and Carrie are together (Bo is still very much with his girlfriend), but issues a "no comment" regarding Anthony and Carrie-- which is the relationship that probably is happening (she's still wearing the "good luck" necklace he gave her even though she's now won the show and, therefore, doesn't really need good luck to win the show).

10,683 posted on 06/11/2005 10:05:36 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: EmilyGeiger; silent_jonny; texasflower
And the Enquirer had the headline about Carrie's affairs with Anthony and Bo. AI must love the publicity all these speculations about Carrie's love life bring to them.

I meant to say that the part about the no comment was a part of the "story" from the Enquirer, thus the reason I mentioned it in reply to this post of Emily's.

10,684 posted on 06/11/2005 10:09:41 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: EmilyGeiger; maggiefluffs; retrokitten; Wolfstar; silent_jonny; texasflower; doodlelady; ...
Carrie singing Cryin' at the Grand Ole Opry-- superior to the version she sang in the finals

Carrie singing Inside Your Heaven at the Grand Ole Opry-- countrified version

10,685 posted on 06/11/2005 3:32:19 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: A CA Guy

Margaret Thatcher? Would you like to explain that choice?


10,686 posted on 06/11/2005 10:55:41 PM PDT by texasflower (silent_jonny is the only one for me.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Listening to both of those songs is a real pleasure.

When she says "thank you" at the end with that catch in her voice it makes you want to just hug her.f


10,687 posted on 06/11/2005 11:11:20 PM PDT by texasflower (silent_jonny is the only one for me.)
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To: m87339

Yeah, that was an accident. I got disconnected and posted to the wrong thread. The comment was meant for a thread on Canadian health care. I found the sentence interesting because it ranked France 1st and yet it was only 2 years ago when they had all those deaths due to the heat. At any rate, it would probably be more work to remove the post than to just lt it go, so I did. But, I wondered how long before someone noticed it!? LOL :)


10,688 posted on 06/12/2005 2:42:15 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Wolfstar
Good morning, Wolfstar :)

I've listened to "Breakaway" 4 or 5 times now (and some particular songs much more than that). Not only is Kelly's voice powerful, so are her lyrics. I'm impressed by the maturity in these songs.

Like "Because Of You"--

Because of you
I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt
Because of you
I find it hard to trust no only me, but everyone around me
Because of you I am afraid

And "Gone"--

You don't care
You know you did it
I'm gone
To find someone to live for in this world
There's no light at the end of the tunnel tonight
Just a bridge that I gotta burn

These aren't the kind of songs we usually hear from someone Kelly's age--thank goodness! These are songs that anybody can relate to, not just angst-filled teenagers.

I like all the songs, except for one--"I Hate Myself For Losing You". The lyrics bother me.

I have myself to blame
For the state I'm in today
And now dying doesn't seem so cruel
...
Hope you're happy now
'Cause every time I think of both of you
It's killing me inside
And now I dread each day
Knowing that I can't be saved
From the loneliness of living

Geez, lighten up, Kelly!

"Breakaway" is a great album, but at times it's a little too dark, IMO. I would have liked to hear Kelly sing some slightly happier songs--I don't mean fluff, we have enough of that. Just something that's not so serious. Something that shows she can be mature and smile at the same time :)

10,689 posted on 06/12/2005 7:39:56 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Thanks for the links!


10,690 posted on 06/12/2005 7:41:17 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny
Good morning, Jonny. What a treat to wake up and see your post about "Breakaway." I'm glad you're enjoying the album. Your comments about many of the lyrics are interesting. "I Hate Myself for Losing You" is the only song on the album that I don't like at all. It sends a lousy message to kids -- both boys and girls.

"Because of You" is one of my favorites. It was written by Kelly when she was about 16 or 17. David Hodges and Ben Moody helped her polish it up for inclusion in the album. The three of them also collaborated to write my favorite song from the album, "Addicted." According to info on the Kelly fan boards I frequent, "Because of You" might be the next single released from the album.

With the exception of "Breakaway" and "You Found Me," the lyrics on the album are dark. And I agree that it would be great to see her do something brighter. But I think the idea was for her to literally break totally away from the bubble gum pop junk of the Britney Spears type (and the glorified karaoke of AI), and establish Kelly as a serious musical artist. So they went light rock with very edgy lyrics -- and wound up with a smash hit album.

"Breakaway," the song, is the big surprise to me. It was an Avril Lavigne throwaway -- too sweet for what she was about musically.

Disney was looking for various young female singers to do the music for their "Princess Diaries 2." Someone recommended Kelly to them, and somehow Kelly and the song were put together. It's only one of several songs used for the film, only the chorus is used, and only once in the film. But that, and Kelly's voice, was all it took. It's the only song on the PD2 soundtrack to become a hit. And what a hit. Wow! I think it was released last July. Last summer, anyway. Here we are nearly a year later, and the song is still high on the charts, is still being played a lot on radio, and seems on its way to becoming a standard.

The interesting thing about "Breakaway," the song, is that it goes totally against what's happening in contemporary music.

So does Kelly, herself, for that matter. Although she's a pretty girl, she's certainly not a classic beauty. She's a down-to-earth young woman who is sort of the antithesis of the modern pop tarts and princesses. She certainly isn't a superstar, yet. But if she can get a Grammy nod or two, and follow this album up with another good album, she might make it to that level.

Bringing this conversation full circle back to AI, the strange thing is that the producers and judges never wanted Kelly to win. Their favorite that year was Tamyra Gray, and it was a big to-do when Tamyra only made it to the #4 spot. There were charges of racism and similar nonsense. Simon has said many times that he didn't really notice Kelly until about mid way through the final weeks. The ones they did want in the first three seasons -- Tamyra, Ruben and Fantasia -- haven't achieved anywhere near the success of that young woman from Burleson, TX.

I think Carrie and Bo have the potential to become successful, each in their own genre. Even with the boost from AI, it's still a tough, cold business. Kelly has shown the way, which is to make music that really suits what they are about musically. I'm hoping for the best for both of them.

10,691 posted on 06/12/2005 9:23:52 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar
The ones they did want in the first three seasons -- Tamyra, Ruben and Fantasia --

Why do you think this is?

10,692 posted on 06/12/2005 11:07:27 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Wolfstar

Not much of a Kelly fan are ya?

;)

IMHO she's OK. But nowadays, OK translates into Great because the landscape is so bleak.


10,693 posted on 06/12/2005 11:22:13 AM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: m87339
But nowadays, OK translates into Great because the landscape is so bleak.

I agree completely that the landscape is so bleak. I don't think Kelly is great -- keep saying she's not a superstar (although some say she is). I say we need to see how her career continues to develop. A Grammy nod and another good album after "Breakaway" will tell the tale about her long-term career.

10,694 posted on 06/12/2005 1:19:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar

Yes, you have been even-handed.

Certainly rooting for her is a good thing -- she seems like a good kid. No worse than Fabian or other manufactured stars. At least she is honest as opposed to being manufactured in the back alley.

I wish her the best -- along with Carrie and Bo. Screamtasia OTOH I wish to go away ;)


10,695 posted on 06/12/2005 6:21:49 PM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: Wolfstar
"Because of You" is one of my favorites.

Mine too. I also really like "Since U Been Gone", "Behind These Hazel Eyes" and "Gone". "Addicted" is starting to grow on me, too.

But I think the idea was for her to literally break totally away from the bubble gum pop junk of the Britney Spears type (and the glorified karaoke of AI), and establish Kelly as a serious musical artist.

Well I certainly can't fault her for that. Anything she can do to put distance between herself and the Spears/Aguilerra crowd is okay with me. (She's infinitely more talented than those two, anyway.) I just wish she would smile more--Kelly has a beautiful smile.

I think Carrie and Bo have the potential to become successful, each in their own genre. Even with the boost from AI, it's still a tough, cold business. Kelly has shown the way, which is to make music that really suits what they are about musically. I'm hoping for the best for both of them.

Sounds like you're warming up to Carrie :)

Like you, I've been watching AI from the beginning, but this is the first year that I'm actually looking forward to the obligatory CDs. I have high hopes for both Carrie and Bo. It's great that they each already have found their own musical niche--that, plus their AI exposure will go a long way in establishing a fan base.

(PS: I hope that Bo is able to include the live AI performance of "In A Dream" on his CD. It would be a crime not to, IMO.)

10,696 posted on 06/13/2005 6:32:10 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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Sounds like you're warming up to Carrie.

I genuinely did like Carrie the best until about mid-way through the elimination of the final 12. Still can't say exactly what began to turn me off to her. All I can reduce it down to is that I see her as cold. But it doesn't matter, because now that the competition is over I no longer feel as strongly about it. What matters now is the music she puts out. If it's good, I'll support her completely.

10,697 posted on 06/13/2005 8:28:19 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: texasflower
Yep. The little ding-a-ling said Margaret Thatcher. I don't think he fires on all cylinders. :-)

Or he doesn't get turned on by women... < /ducking >

Just dropped by the old AI thread for some nostalgia, because the summer is so dreary without all of you. Glad to see everyone is still here!

10,698 posted on 06/13/2005 1:27:26 PM PDT by StrictTime (I'll have a vodka tonic with a splash of cranberry and a squeeze of lime, please!)
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To: silent_jonny; texasflower; GraniteStateConservative; EmilyGeiger; doodlelady; A CA Guy; Netizen; ...
FROM THE USO'S WEBSITE, Kelly visiting our troops in the Persian Gulf:

USO's photo caption: Multi-platinum vocalist Kelly Clarkson visits with troops in the Persian Gulf region on a USO tour before performing the national anthem via satellite prior to Game 2 of the NBA Finals. The singer and NBA Legends Artis Gilmore, Gail Goodrich, Spencer Haywood and Dan Roundfield are participating on a USO tour to bring a boost of morale to troops stationed far from home. (Photo by U.S. Army Spc. Aimee Felix.)


10,699 posted on 06/13/2005 7:49:49 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar

I heard she was doing that.

Good for her, very considerate and special.


10,700 posted on 06/13/2005 7:51:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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