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Retire in Florida?
Vanity | 3/23/05 | null and void

Posted on 03/23/2005 7:56:21 AM PST by null and void

It's time for anyone considering retirement in Florida to SERIOUSLY re-think their plans.

There are many other states (and countries, for that matter) where they will be safer from murder under the color of authority when they get a little infirm and inconvienent.

If you are retired in Florida, and you are still able, you might consider getting out while you still can...

Let Florida know killing the inconvenient has economic consequences.


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1 posted on 03/23/2005 7:56:21 AM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

Forget about retirement. I just cancelled a trip to Florida for later this year, and I've decided that I'll take a vacation in Fallujah before I ever set foot in Florida again.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 7:58:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: null and void; Admin Moderator

If you want a chat thread, don't post it in News, OK. There are too many of these vanities today, IMO. Why not post your opinion in one of the existing threads?


3 posted on 03/23/2005 7:58:59 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: null and void

Living in Florida could be hazardous to your health.


4 posted on 03/23/2005 7:59:13 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: null and void

I was under the impression that the FL legislature passed a law to help Terri, but that the courts are the problem. Am I wrong? If this is what happened, the solution is not in boycotting FL but in serious demands on changing the courts. Are you going to the March for Justice?


5 posted on 03/23/2005 7:59:48 AM PST by cinnathepoet (Directly, I am going to Caesar's funeral)
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To: null and void

Florida is hot, humid, overcrowded, and subject to sinkholes and hurricanes.


6 posted on 03/23/2005 7:59:56 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: null and void

Think the Carolinas.......


7 posted on 03/23/2005 8:01:24 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: null and void

Oh, this one is tough. I love Florida but have been really disturbed by some of the news (legislation and crime) coming out of there recently. It isn't just the retired or infirmed, it's the children at home in their beds or the children in the DCFS system. However, I think it does merit some discussion because all of us can learn from the news coming out of Florida....learn of getting healthcare proxies, learn of checking our local law enforcement lists for possible predators in our area. I think one of the hallmarks of being an American is not running, but fighting. I am not totally convinced that punishing the good people of Florida by diminishing the local economy is the fair thing to do. I understand the sentiment, trust me. I do. Sometimes being on the outside feels a bit helpless and hitting the economy seems to be the most obvious way to speak out. I am not saying you shouldn't do it, I am saying it doesn't sound good to me. At the same time, I have to give it to you because I personally cannot come up with a better idea that might have a bigger impact in Florida locally. Maybe that is up to the locals in the state to take on and those of us on the outside can support them in that respect. All of this news does lead to some stirring of 'let's get off our butts and do something!' I am not quite sure what that 'something' is just yet.


9 posted on 03/23/2005 8:02:34 AM PST by austinaero
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To: null and void

My friends who live in Florida for years have told me what's taking place in that state especially with the elderly; taking the elderly out is common.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 8:02:35 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: null and void

With the exception of Gov. Bush, apparently only one
rabbi, and other Floridians of character and integrity,
the message from other Floridians is very
clear:

If you move to Florida, your state government,
George Greer, federal district judges, the
ACLU, with the apparent complicity of the Florida
Senate AND the ACLU, may well try to kill you at
their whim.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 8:03:04 AM PST by righttackle44
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To: MineralMan

Good point. I'm sure the mods will move it to chat, if they are so inclined.

I wanted to give it better visibility than it would have buried in another thread.

What's the point of calling for a decades long boycott if no one knows about it?

For that mater what's the point in responding to the thread in the first place if you didn't like it?...


12 posted on 03/23/2005 8:04:00 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: null and void

Just have a living will and you can retire or live anywhere you want - It is each individuals resposibility to to make sure everything is in writing and all interested parties read it and sign that they will abide by the will.


13 posted on 03/23/2005 8:05:06 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: null and void

And by the way, where is
AARP in all of this?

Are they so uncaring about the
potential effect of Greer's ruling upon
their constituency?


14 posted on 03/23/2005 8:06:08 AM PST by righttackle44
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To: null and void

"I wanted to give it better visibility than it would have buried in another thread.

What's the point of calling for a decades long boycott if no one knows about it?

For that mater what's the point in responding to the thread in the first place if you didn't like it?...
"



Well, it has been moved to Chat, now. Why do I respond? Because I'm a Freeper, and Jim and the moderators have asked people to let them know when a thread is misplaced.

I'm sure you did want better visibility. Vanity posts are like that...the poster wants visibility, even though they're just posting some opinion.

You can do this in any thread on the Schiavo case.


15 posted on 03/23/2005 8:06:28 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: null and void

Getting kind of crowded here, too. But don't forget that FL went for Bush this fall.


16 posted on 03/23/2005 8:06:35 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: blownawaybylibs

Bingo. We really aren't all that different from the Germans, are we? The human race is truly 'ein volk'...


18 posted on 03/23/2005 8:07:00 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: MineralMan

I see it's in chat now.


19 posted on 03/23/2005 8:07:52 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: righttackle44
And by the way, where is
AARP in all of this?

Are they so uncaring about the
potential effect of Greer's ruling upon
their constituency?

The AARP is a lib-uh-rhul organization.

20 posted on 03/23/2005 8:09:32 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: null and void

Flori-duh isn't the problem; liberal-demokkkRAT activist judges, are. They must be recalled and replaced.


21 posted on 03/23/2005 8:09:34 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( Veni Vidi Vino Visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: null and void
I decided years ago to never again cross west of the Mississippi River unless it was an emergency. The decay of our society is just too far advanced on that side of the petri dish.

Muleteam1

22 posted on 03/23/2005 8:09:58 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Alberta's Child
"I've decided that I'll take a vacation in Fallujah before I ever set foot in Florida again. "

Super! If you could get another 5 million or so people to do the same that would be great.

23 posted on 03/23/2005 8:11:00 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm tired of my tag line and need a new one.)
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To: shield

Who in Gods name told you such a thing !! My father and his wife have lived a great life in Florida - not one single person has tried to harm them in any way -


24 posted on 03/23/2005 8:11:01 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: verity
"Florida is hot, humid, overcrowded, and subject to sinkholes and hurricanes."

And don't forget the "gators"....

25 posted on 03/23/2005 8:12:57 AM PST by ~Vor~
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To: null and void
...and yet again I defend Florida.

I've lived here 30 years....

...I know there are conscientious, conservative folks who not only live and work here, but do their civic duty to effect change and work to make a difference.

Florida has given us Mel Martinez, David Weldon, Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris.....

I've brought up 2 God fearing, Republican voting children in the Florida school system, and I've seen my county opt...(against great odds) to support an abstinence only sex education.

My children have graduated from two fine Florida colleges, and are gainfully employed...

But fine, go ahead,ignore, boycott us...

..We will enjoy the beautiful sunsets, pleasant tropical climate, balmy days with swaying palm trees without you!

And while we remain here and work on our problems and try to fix them, enjoy your utopia, wherever that is.

26 posted on 03/23/2005 8:13:19 AM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: MineralMan
Vanity posts are like that...the poster wants visibility, even though they're just posting some opinion.

Good point.

You can do this in any thread on the Schiavo case.

If it were just about Terri Schiavo, I would.

I see it as being about a larger picture, as I suppose most people supporting her do.

I made the judgment call that it was worth it's own thread, as it isn't really about one brain damaged/dead individual. We disagree on the scope of the problem.

27 posted on 03/23/2005 8:14:19 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: finallyatexan
Who in Gods name told you such a thing !! My father and his wife have lived a great life in Florida - not one single person has tried to harm them in any way -

Yet.

28 posted on 03/23/2005 8:16:20 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: null and void

I've been expressing this from day one. Boycott the products too, don't intentionally finance their state judicial and political system. Too much conflict of interest with the regulators and the members of the boards of hospices and nursing homes often being one and the same. Add the judicial activism and you have schemes that rip off all the US taxpayers.

I'm sure just the act of having feeding tubes declared life support, meant a huge increase in their reimbursements from the Feds


29 posted on 03/23/2005 8:16:23 AM PST by tertiary01 (Terri---allowed to live by the Court of Public Opinion, which is tougher than any court of law)
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To: null and void

Mineral Boy is one of the resident thread-cop/cranks and you owe him no explanation. Its best to ignore him.


30 posted on 03/23/2005 8:16:38 AM PST by subterfuge (Kill child molesters!)
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To: Guenevere
FWIW, I'm a Marine Corps brat. Of all the places I've lived, I liked loved Florida best!
31 posted on 03/23/2005 8:18:16 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: finallyatexan

"It is each individuals resposibility "


Individual responsibility?! NOOOOOOOOOO!!! I want the federal gov't to step in and solve my problems for me, as long as the gov't is led by Republicans!!!

[/sarcasm


32 posted on 03/23/2005 8:19:39 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: subterfuge

I know. I chose to engage, rather than ignore.


33 posted on 03/23/2005 8:20:02 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: finallyatexan
I've got really good friends who live in Florida...they've had major problems with hospitals and doctors there. They've expressed some rather disturbing things that happened to them.

Have your parents ever had any major health problems?

34 posted on 03/23/2005 8:22:02 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: null and void
#31..Well I sure couldn't tell it by the thread you started :^

I love Florida.

I have, and will continue to, work for its good.

I will not leave unless I have to or God wants me to.

I love Florida.

I don't love the liberal activist judges Clinton and ilk have cultured....I don't love Janet Reno's involvement in our politics....I don't love FLorida's Supreme Court judges....I don't love constantly being on guard against judicial tyranny.

But I love FLorida, and think she's worth fighting for!

35 posted on 03/23/2005 8:24:15 AM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: Guenevere

Yeah. I understand. I'm living in California.


36 posted on 03/23/2005 8:26:05 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: null and void
Starting here, there are some related comments on this thread

Due to the turn of events, I have no objection where you put the thread as I find it interesting and pertinent.

I'm glad it started out where I could find it. I'm interested in what others have to say.

37 posted on 03/23/2005 8:26:53 AM PST by Aliska
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To: shield

Yes - my father is a severe diabetic and has had three heart operations - he is blind and deaf with most major organs starting to fail in the last 7 or 8 years - he gets excellent care from all his doctors (which at last count was about 8) and from the hospitals . I have personally been with him during hospital stays and doctor appointments as have my sisters and we find very good care from everyone involved.


38 posted on 03/23/2005 8:27:51 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: finallyatexan

I hope that continues.


39 posted on 03/23/2005 8:30:12 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: null and void

Retire there, heck! I'm not going to have a darn thing to do with the state.


40 posted on 03/23/2005 8:30:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: grannie9

ping


41 posted on 03/23/2005 8:31:07 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: Guenevere
We will enjoy the beautiful sunsets, pleasant tropical climate, balmy days with swaying palm trees without you!
I'm in western NY - we have clouds and snow. I envy you.
.
42 posted on 03/23/2005 8:31:47 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: catpuppy

ping


43 posted on 03/23/2005 8:31:53 AM PST by null and void (Do your part to save Social Security. Die.)
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To: Muleteam1
Some of the eastern states are pretty putrid, too. You must be in the south. I don't know if there are any safe, family values states left, east or west.

If I were raising young children, I don't know which state I would want to live in. I know I wouldn't stay where I am now unless I could afford to live in a smaller town and raise kids in a middle-class lifestyle.

This might sound odd, but I wouldn't want to be filthy rich and raise kids for a lot of reasons.

45 posted on 03/23/2005 8:33:30 AM PST by Aliska
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To: null and void
I'm living in California.#36...

Well there's a utopia for you:^

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I'm getting mighty tired of the piling up on Florida.

I've just about lost all sense of humor....especially when folks are calling for boycotts, while 'good Floridians are fighting this battle just as hard as you are, or harder!

No offense, but clean up your own state before you malign mine!

Please stop to consider we too had to endure....not only endure, but show up and protest....the 2000 election....we personally, up close, were there!!

We've just endured, lived through and fought 4.....count them....4!!!! ..hurricanes.

Our economy is hurting.....our roofs are off our houses....

..many of our homes and businesses are destroyed....landmarks are gone.

Sure....finish us off....

..y'all start your little boycott....

..I don't even think we'll miss you, we're too busy cleaning up!

46 posted on 03/23/2005 8:35:33 AM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: null and void
A related thread:

Florida Legislature Is Able To Help Terri - Action Requested.

47 posted on 03/23/2005 8:37:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Guenevere
many of our homes and businesses are destroyed....landmarks are gone.

But you're alive, Guen.

48 posted on 03/23/2005 8:37:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: blownawaybylibs
sorry to be thick, but what does "ping" mean? i just started posting on free republic. thanks.

It's like paging in the grocery store. Calling one or several to a thread who might miss it otherwise.

49 posted on 03/23/2005 8:37:59 AM PST by Aliska
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To: null and void

I have no reason to believe it won't.


50 posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:57 AM PST by finallyatexan
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