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Shiavo-Judge George W. Greer and what can be done about him by the Florida Constitution
me | 3/25/05 | me

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:39:26 PM PST by pulaskibush

So far, it appears Judge Greer has been given the power to let Michael Shiavo starve Terri Shiavo to death. Here are some links about Greer:

http://www.jud6.org/Addresses/JudgesPhoneNumbers/judgeaddressandphonelist.htm

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0228051_petition_seeks_impeachme.htm

http://www.hospicepatients.org/wwwboard/messages/330.htm

http://www.earnedmedia.org/tf0311.htm

http://www.terrisfight.net/

http://www.anncoulter.org/

This is a petition to remove Greer. http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ijg520/

As for what can be done for Terri, here is the Florida Constitution:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=Constitution&Submenu=3&Tab=statutes#A04S01

Here's what Governor Jeb Bush can do under the Florida Constitution. ARTICLE IV EXECUTIVE

(a) The supreme executive power shall be vested in a governor, who shall be commander-in-chief of all military forces of the state not in active service of the United States. The governor shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, commission all officers of the state and counties, and transact all necessary business with the officers of government. The governor may require information in writing from all executive or administrative state, county or municipal officers upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices. The governor shall be the chief administrative officer of the state responsible for the planning and budgeting for the state.

(b) The governor may initiate judicial proceedings in the name of the state against any executive or administrative state, county or municipal officer to enforce compliance with any duty or restrain any unauthorized act.

(c) The governor may request in writing the opinion of the justices of the supreme court as to the interpretation of any portion of this constitution upon any question affecting the governor's executive powers and duties. The justices shall, subject to their rules of procedure, permit interested persons to be heard on the questions presented and shall render their written opinion not earlier than ten days from the filing and docketing of the request, unless in their judgment the delay would cause public injury.

(d) The governor shall have power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws of the state, suppress insurrection, or repel invasion.

(e) The governor shall by message at least once in each regular session inform the legislature concerning the condition of the state, propose such reorganization of the executive department as will promote efficiency and economy, and recommend measures in the public interest.

(f) When not otherwise provided for in this constitution, the governor shall fill by appointment any vacancy in state or county office for the remainder of the term of an appointive office, and for the remainder of the term of an elective office if less than twenty-eight months, otherwise until the first Tuesday after the first Monday following the next general election.

Here's the part about life in the Florida Constitution.:

SECTION 2. Basic rights.--All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

I do not see anything about requiring judicial permission to use "all military forces of the state not in active service of the United States" as stated in Article IV (a)

Nor do I see any judicial permission for the "power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws of the state, suppress insurrection, or repel invasion." as stated in Article IV (d)

It appears to me that Article IV of the Florida Constitution gives Jeb Bush the power to send the National Guard w/out permission of Greer or any other judge to enforece Article I section 2 of the Florida Constitution

Is there something in the Florida Constitution / any other law that says otherwise? Anything I missed?


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To: rodguy911

You're correct! That is a good source and I have bookmarked it.

While I was at the site - I found this:

"A motion to remove Michael Schiavo as guardian, citing his failure to comply with Florida Law mandated guardianship requirements. This motion dates back to November of 2002, but the court has never ruled on it."

This is more than enough to reopen the case.


41 posted on 03/24/2005 4:12:58 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: pulaskibush
Jeb and George are like lifeguards standing on the shore
watchin one they are charged with safeguarding... drowning

As Terri goes down for the third time the lifeguards sit on shore with a boat a working motor and extra trained life guard s helpers standing by..waiting orders

Also on the shore is the environmental guardian aka Greer with a piece of paper telling the life guards why it is they aren't allowed to rescue the woman they are sworn to protect..

As they debate and argue and petition and wring their hands and say things like "we are greatly saddened"..

A woman screams..her parents scream for help..a nation implores the lifeguards to do their job..

In the meantime the policy makers wrangle and argue and debate..the democrats throw rocks at everybody and the republicans issue edicts and prepare their glorious emotion chocked eulogies..meanwhile lamenting that it was the democrats who 'held them back'

Finally a woman dies a needless and brutal death...and then the blame game will begin..and the vultures will make as much political book on her death that they can..

The nation will never be the same..as the America that once was will die with Terri Schindler...

Our leaders all count on the American people having a short attention spans and even shorter memories..

They still don't grasp the power of the internet..

Soon they will come to the conclusion they must hobble it.

McCain & Feingold will no doubt help them out..



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42 posted on 03/24/2005 4:13:51 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: TBP

I sent an email just a little bit ago to the US Attny Generals Office asking that they send the US Marshals to arrest judge Greer for being in contemp of congress.

Maybe they will listen if everyone starts emailing a request?

The email addy: AskDOJ@usdoj.gov

This is their contact page on the web: http://www.usdoj.gov/contact-us.html


43 posted on 03/24/2005 4:14:32 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: pulaskibush

I wonder if that reflection of his in the photo is real or photoshopped in.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 4:14:54 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: pulaskibush

I heard some lawyer on TV say that Greer is a "conservative Republican." Can anyone confirm or deny?

I absolutely cannot believe that!


45 posted on 03/24/2005 4:16:16 PM PST by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: captain_dave

Better yet, the President can pardon him.


46 posted on 03/24/2005 4:16:57 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: CyberAnt
Accuracy and facts do not matter to these Floridian Judicial vampires.

Judgenfuhrer Greer: " The money must FLOW or his 'bitch' dies."

47 posted on 03/24/2005 4:17:07 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

bump


48 posted on 03/24/2005 4:17:28 PM PST by timestax
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To: monkeywrench; All
The Greer photo is from Foxnews, It looks real.

I've got to go to an event, I'll be back in a few hours.

49 posted on 03/24/2005 4:17:31 PM PST by pulaskibush
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To: jesusfreak65
I agree, this is all God's hands and he is a just God. They all had warnings, second chances, and lost opportunities to change their course. They will reap what they sow.
50 posted on 03/24/2005 4:17:51 PM PST by tioga
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To: pulaskibush
Judge Greer is now KING GREER! He has given the fnger to the Congress and the President and the Governr...he cannot be stopped now....and their are HUNDREDS of other judges just waiting to be Kig of America also.

If Congress doesn't have a Contempt order for King Greer, they might as well all go home and let the judges run the country!

51 posted on 03/24/2005 4:18:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CyberAnt

If Terri is killed I think the government should prosecute that whole filthy bunch down there, under RICO.

That's right after they call up Greer to answer for his contempt of Congress subpoena that he ignored!


52 posted on 03/24/2005 4:18:58 PM PST by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: agrace

Well .. it was a news article I was reading - and it also said that there is another judge from the same county who's wife also sits on the board.

I had no reason to disbelieve it. If somebody can prove that is false information - fine. Since media is well-known for not getting their facts correct - I would presume someone would have corrected me by now.


53 posted on 03/24/2005 4:19:16 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Diogenesis

Even by the low standards of lawyers' ethics, it should have been incumbent upon Greer to recuse himself. I think what comes out about the players in this case will not be comfortable for supporters of Michael.


54 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:05 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: Conservative4Ever

GOD have mercy upon America - if we do not correct this horrible judicial situation - and keep them from killing Terri.


55 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: rodguy911
Re:empirejournal

There is a wealth of info there.BTW,do you know if they tracked down the hacker?

56 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:51 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: pulaskibush

bump


57 posted on 03/24/2005 4:21:42 PM PST by chainsaw (We are going to take things away from you for the common good. - H. Clinton June of 2004)
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To: CyberAnt
Thanks cyberAnt.
What really got me was how a lowlife asst. State Attorney, Bernie McCabe, for Pasco/Pinellas counties could have an FDLE investigation stopped. Stuff like that is totally unprecedented and the agents are ready and willing to be subpoenaed accd. to the Empire Journal piece.

This thing has so many links it boggles the mind.
58 posted on 03/24/2005 4:21:54 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: pulaskibush

Hearhear!


59 posted on 03/24/2005 4:22:37 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: CyberAnt

Really. I haven't read that. I have heard about the other judge's wife - his name is John Lenderman and his wife is Martha - but a google search nets nothing on Patricia Greer. I'm not saying it's not true, just that it hasn't been proven.

In fact a freeper on another thread posted that they called the hospice and asked and was told that Greer's wife is not a board member.

Of course, they're being federally investigated for medicare fraud so who knows if they're telling the truth. :)


60 posted on 03/24/2005 4:23:07 PM PST by agrace
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