Judgenfuhrer Greer: "We are using morphine drip now and will burn her,
alive if necessary, before the subpoena. Congressal subpoenas aren't worth a bucket of warm spit."
Posted on 03/27/2005 3:23:49 PM PST by jpsb
Terry by fighting for her life, has given Jeb one last change. Congress has ordered Terry to appear before them tomorrow. Jeb can enforce that order by siezing Terry and bringing her to D.C. Clearly that his right.
Jeb, go for it, you have the right and the duty to enforce the will of Congress.
Everyone shrieked when Elian was kidnapped...
he has nothing to lose now. my respect for him dissipated days ago.
Congress has order Terry to appear. Is a country probate judge more powerful the the Congress of the USA?
This is nuts.
It's been 10 days already.
Also wasn't that subpeona squashed by the courts?
It's all so tragic but it's over, now.
This is now a Constitutional crissis.
Of course, you already knew that.
I didn;'t realize that it was the duty of state governors to enforce federal congressional supoeanas...
But maybe that's just me....
Is it? dont you think AP will come up with something in short order to sweep it out of the public mind?
this is a farce of monumental impact.
I no longer love my country.
Jeb won't do squat. His office already said they have exhausted all legal avenues. I have had it with both Bush's. GW should has locked up those judges for contempt of Congress. Jeb blew his chance on Wednesday when he failed to act on having DCF take custody of Terri. Jeb will have to live both personally and politically for having Terri die on his watch. IMHO
Realistically after ten days of dehydration isn't she terminal? We have to be at/near the point of no return, no?
Sorry, but what role does a state official have in enforcing a Congressional order? If Congress really wants her, there are US Marshals, FBI and God only knows how many other flavors of federal muscle.
You don't have to leave. You can become a Democrat.
Well there is a valid Congressional subpeona out there, so anyone that brings Terry to DC will be within the law, anyone.
why are these people acting like they have no balls or backbone? who has decreed to them that Terri is expendable?
Jeb should get her convicted of murder. Then all those pulling for her death would be stating this is cruel and unsual punishment.
Where the heck is that written?!
Obviously he is. And more powerful than the Governor of Florida and the President of the United States. All hail King George Greer!
The statement is
"We do not believe in the Judical System,
so, we are going against you and we will accept JAIL and FINES "
signed JOE STALIN
Judgenfuhrer Greer: "We are using morphine drip now and will burn her,
alive if necessary, before the subpoena. Congressal subpoenas aren't worth a bucket of warm spit."
If are so shallow that you don't love this Country because of the actions of a few people, then MOVE! Will be glad to contribute to a one-way ticket!
I've seen a lot that I don't approve of and I have tolerated as the price of plurality and I support a free and open marketplace of ideas.
what has happened to Terri has me wondering about the very soul of this nation.
I love what we could and should be. I am repulsed and my blood runs cold at the revelation of what we are.
His conceptual framework includes the notion that court orders are final.
That's a happy place for an electoral politician to be, it usually means they can denounce the courts, make the people think they are on their side, and do nothing in the end.
You know, I don't blame him all that much.
I don't blame Pius XII either, all that much-he had many things to take care of amid the chaos of Nazi Europe.
But I believe Pius XII passed on sainthood, and I think Jeb just passed on higher office.
So it goes.
see post 27 and take your meds. I suppose the impotence you have just witnessed makes you more proud of your nation?
Oh, for heaven's sake. Snap out of it! We've got pathetic laws on the books.
If you want to be a hero, stop trashing this country and the leaders who stepped up to the plate and channel your energies into something constructive.--Work to change the law!!!
Anti-Jeb/Pres Bush crowd is lose again! No way to rationalize with these folks -- they are right 100% of the time and we are always wrong!
Apparently, and much to my surprise, the answer is yes, any judge in the land is more powerful than Congress.
A little more info about the father-of-the-year that sent his
ten year old son to be a token arrest at the hosoice......
http://www3.fdle.state.fl.us/sexual_predators/OffenderFlyer.asp?keys=38964
Sex Offender
Offender Image Number: 116624
Date of Photo:08-22-2002
Howard Scott Heldreth
Status: Absconded from Registration
Department of Corrections #: D05316
Date of Birth: 03-23-1973
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 5' 09"
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Green
Weight: 180 lbs.
Last Reported Address: Kannapolis, NC
County: Cabarrus
Date Address Entered: 04-30-2004
Qualifying Offense(s):
Sex Offense-Other (Rape 2 Counts (State Of Ohio))
Victim(s): Gender: Unknown ; Minor? Yes
Heldreth is a Sex Offender under Florida law. Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.
If further information is needed, please contact the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Sexual Offender/Predator Unit at
The lack of rational thought is truly frightening. I've not seen the likes of this madness on FR before.
And this is why:
His office already said they have exhausted all legal avenues.
Do you folks not see the folly and hypocrisy of demanding that Jeb kidnap Terri Schiavo or otherwise take her into custody without any legal authority, when we all agree that what Janet Reno did to Elian Gonzales was so wrong? If you want anarchy and vigilanteism, just come right out and say so. Stop blaming the president or his brother for things that are beyond their jurisdication. This is not a dictatorship, but it sure sounds like some of you who claim to care about Terri want exactly that.
I did. I worked on the campaign to reelect the president in pinellas county florida. that's just for starters.
They are setting a very bad precedent with regards to the position of the executive in relation to the judiciary... VERY bad. Congress ain't doing any better, either, sad to say. And the rest of us are now hostage to an unelected set of oligarchs who rule for life.
This is exactly my point. The politicians are watching the polls. Don't forget, the way the polls were worded a majority of the people did not want Congress involved. As a Republican Conservitave, I feel this moral issue will divide the party more that any democrat party can. IMHO
What have you done to initiate changes in the Right to Live laws?
What? Tell me.
You think he won't be trashed by the Demos, Media other Countries???
They are silently waiting in the backgroud for Terri to die.
I think you better worry about them more than Freepers.
There will be movies about every facet of this fiasco.
Yours is not an original idea by any stretch of the imagination.
Do you think that Congress can send federal agents in order to execute a completely legal subpeona?
There will be movies about every facet of this fiasco.
Yours is not an original idea by any stretch of the imagination.
Thank you for posting that.
Several people jumped on me yesterday for saying that this parent was irresponsible and grandstanding.
Turns out, I was giving the guy entirely too much credit.
The right to life is recognized as a basic inalienable right in the Supreme Law of the Land. It needn't be changed. It need be enforced. And enforcement requires fortitude. I can't make my representatives have wisdom and fortitude. I can only vote for the ones who make me believe that they do have it.
Do you think anything you're doing here is helping Terri Schiavo one iota?
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