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I just called Jesse Jackson's organization and thanked Jesse for speaking our for Terri
churchillbuff/rainbowpush ^ | March 29, 05 | churchillbuff

Posted on 03/29/2005 11:51:31 AM PST by churchillbuff

I have NEVER been a fan of Jesse Jackson. But when he can get the biased liberal anti-Terri media - to report the words, Terri's starvation is "immoral" and an "injustice," -- as he did today -- then I have to thank him. I just called his office in the Chicago area; told them I have not been a supporter of his, but I thank him for standing up for Terri.

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1 posted on 03/29/2005 11:51:39 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Good idea!

Making link for handy email....

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2 posted on 03/29/2005 11:52:52 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Saundra Duffy; FR_addict; Petronski

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3 posted on 03/29/2005 11:55:02 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Hehehe. Sent email before the ping. FReegards....


4 posted on 03/29/2005 11:55:54 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: churchillbuff

Seemed he was making a pitch for socialized medicine and just USING Terri for his ends.

With Jesse, always follow the money. But, don't expect the IRS to audit this faker.


5 posted on 03/29/2005 11:56:46 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: longtermmemmory; Mears; Skooz; P-Marlowe; winstonchurchill; jude24; dead

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6 posted on 03/29/2005 11:58:12 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: A CA Guy

The stupidity of people amazes me. He could care less about Terri - a white girl. Geesh! ALL he wants is alittle face time. He's getting his attention fix through Terri. OTOH, abortion is okay with with him. Go figure!


7 posted on 03/29/2005 11:58:19 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: A CA Guy
Seemed he was making a pitch for socialized medicine"""

That didn't come through in the AP article that I read. They quoted him as saying what's happening to Terri is "immoral" and an "injustice." The AP has before been forced to use those words in a story about Terri; but when Jesse says them, the AP can't ignore the words.

8 posted on 03/29/2005 11:59:51 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: nmh
ALL he wants is alittle face time."""

Maybe so, but he called her starvation "immoral" -- and the American people need to hear that truth. If the president won't go down and say it, I'll take Jesse Jackson.

9 posted on 03/29/2005 12:00:56 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: nmh

That's true also, the focus of the world is here, so Jesse elbows himself in front of the camera.

Terri's husband on the left is represented by the pro-death movement, now on the left again, Terri's parents are represented by the same side with a little statement for her and a BIG push for socialized medicine.

The left and the left by way of relatives monopolize both sides.


10 posted on 03/29/2005 12:01:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: churchillbuff

Came through the television to me.

Don't you find it odd the left represents Terri's husband for pro-death and now Jessi the massive leftists comes in to make his statement and gets into his socialized medicine spiel?

I can see through this like a window.


11 posted on 03/29/2005 12:03:51 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: churchillbuff
Well, you are more charitable than I, I suppose. Don't you think it is odd that Je$$e waited until Schiavo's death is surely imminent before inserting himself? If Je$$e is involved there's got to be something in it for him. Perhaps he has found a way to shake down the hospice.
12 posted on 03/29/2005 12:19:00 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: nmh

"ALL he wants is a little face time. He's getting his attention fix through Terri."

A leopard can't change his spots---and neither can Jesse. The day I make a local call and give PUSH a ring to praise this snake, someone take me out in the back and kick my *ss.

If anything, Jackson's prepping the Dems for '06 as a champion of life. He's the test subject who's out there with a finger to the right-to-life wind while Hillary and Kerry take note. And I guarantee (and it will come out) that all those contributions people having been making to the Terri-cause have helped to pay for Jesse's flight to Florida and his generous per diem.

People can say that they'd make a pact with the devil to save Terri's life, but if Jackson was really on board with this, he would have shown up long before her tube was pulled. He's there now because he knows that his arrival in this the life-and-death drama will get better play than it would have 2 weeks ago.

I can't believe the FReepers who are falling all over themselves to praise this phoney. BTW, looks like he was hitting the free Mojitos pretty hard last night, didn't he?


13 posted on 03/29/2005 12:19:37 PM PST by toddlintown (This Bud's a Dud.)
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To: A CA Guy

Wow.. we are happy and rejoicing that Jesse not only spoke those words.. he is also working the phones with the Florida legislatures ! I wonder if he ran into the folks in Washington yesterday, and his heart was truly moved. So he throws in a couple of extraneous nothings to his regular base. How many of the big evangelical Christian pastors made a trip to Pinellas ? Jesse is there, he is supporting Terri, he is working for her, and .. he even has some clout.

Did you see how wonderful Mary Schindler looked ? And how clear the ideas were for immediate action. -- Terri's life first.


14 posted on 03/29/2005 12:24:02 PM PST by praxi (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/)
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To: praxi

Many religious people, ministers and such made the trip and even camped out there praying praxi.
Where has Jesse been the last few months on this issue?
I took Jesse all this time to notice Terri?
More like he wanted in on the cameras so when he makes his speeches he can do an hour on this topic for 50k a speech.
With Jesse, always follow the money.

He hasn't seen Terri at all, and unlike the thousands of unknown pastors praying and working for Terri, the press live the leftist Jesse as a great socialist and race baiter.


15 posted on 03/29/2005 12:31:58 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: churchillbuff

I called and did as you suggested. Give credit where credit is due. Maybe people who would otherwise not have paid any attention will sit up and take notice.


16 posted on 03/29/2005 12:33:14 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: churchillbuff
You waited seven years before revealing that you are a troll.

; )

17 posted on 03/29/2005 12:33:55 PM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: A CA Guy

Fox only showed snippets of JJ press conference. President Bush was speaking at the same time. He hasn't seen Terri because her owner has a list of who is allowed in. JJ didn't make the cut. I suppose Jeb and Greer didn't make the list either.


18 posted on 03/29/2005 12:40:28 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: churchillbuff

It is odd that he is coming out for Terri now but at this point I'd take all the help we can get for her.


19 posted on 03/29/2005 12:43:00 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: churchillbuff

Sorry, but I can't imagine a possible world where I would call Jackson's people to thank him for another self-aggrandizing effort designed to keep him in the spotlight. What's going on with you, churchillbuff? What are you thinking?


20 posted on 03/29/2005 12:44:46 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: toddlintown
A leopard can't change his spots---and neither can Jesse.

I agree. But as I posed to Rush today via email (who knows if he'll read it), how do you decide whether to lose on principle or play strategically for the outcome? When do the ends justify the means? I have heard Rush endorse both approaches and I would sure like to know on what criteria is that choice of approach judged?

21 posted on 03/29/2005 12:46:12 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: A CA Guy

Jesse needs to go talk to the Florida lawmakers who voted to kill Terri and others like her.


22 posted on 03/29/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: All

Maybe Jesse saw something wrong in that they were giving a so called vegetable morphine. Whatever his motives I applaud him for coming forward. I only wish he and other democrats would have done that when there was a chance to save Terri.


23 posted on 03/29/2005 1:02:01 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: churchillbuff
May I be one of many who consider your gesture to be...IDIOTIC.
24 posted on 03/29/2005 1:03:40 PM PST by Liberator
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To: praxi
I have always been at political odds with Jesse Jackson. He is a political opportunist and wrong on most issues. But I have to say he is at least speaking out and petitioning the halls of Congress and Tallahassee to try to stop the killing.

I remebember that for years when Clinton was president, all of the freepers would say "Look at what he does, not what he says." We all knew him for what he was. He didn't fool us. Now I stand at a point where people who I stood in the cold to get elected, made calls, sent money to their election or reelection campaigns who spoke eloquently on issues of life, now they stand silent after a tepid attempt to beg the Federal Court to allow a reexamination of the facts. They said subpoena Terri Shiavo and Michael Shiavo or contempt of congress citations would be issued. A district court judge backed them all down. He did not blink. President Bush, Gov. Bush, the republican congress all blinked and now I finally see what I should have seen all of these years. I need to "Look at what they do, not what they say"....just the same as Clinton. Nothing they have done in this case differentiates them from Clinton.

This was, at long last, an opportunity to do the right thing, and if necessary, suffer the slings and arrows of an out-of-control judiciary. If the culture of death brings further reprisal, so be it. It will have been the right thing to do. This is the clash of these cultures in a great battle. The advocates of death seem to have the numbers, but the culture of life has the truth and is right. To settle for the opinion of one man is beyond tyrany. It is monstrous in its precident setting ruling. It will only become that much more difficult to stand up the next time this happens. I hate to say this but President Bush gave lipservice and Jesse Jackson, though he had nothing to loose, at lets stood up and tried to use what influence he had to save a life. Bush should be asked to do no less.

25 posted on 03/29/2005 1:05:05 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (.)
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To: churchillbuff

I will not be calling Jesse Jackson to thank him (and thereby encouraging him to continue to "mug" for publicity) for interjecting himself into the Schiavo case. Below is an excerpt from a National Review Online column dated 3/28/05 by Jay Nordlinger:

In his New York Sun column, John P. Avlon quoted the Rev. Jesse Jackson, preaching/speechifying in the Riverside Church. "Whose god is God?" said Jackson. "There is a profound theological debate in our nation tonight about the nature and character of God. . . . Today the Congress reconvenes to save a woman — Terri Schiavo — from starving to death, but then votes to starve millions every day. Whose god is God? They fight to save the fetus, and then starve the babies. Whose god is God?"

Reported Avlon, "Enthusiastic applause rolled through the pews . . ." No doubt, no doubt.

Jackson further said, "There is a fascist attack on civil rights and civil liberties. We cannot be silent."

Jesse Jackson is too late to the table to be believed. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing and will get no thanks from me. As for the Schindlers, who can blame them for accepting help from whomever they think might help save their daughter? Certainly not me. It is, however, shameful on "Reverend" Jackson's part.

But, since when does he care about shamelessness?

http://www.nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus200503280731.asp


26 posted on 03/29/2005 1:15:35 PM PST by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
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To: churchillbuff

If he felt all he said with sincerity, he would have been there several days ago before she reached this desperate level of starvation & dehydration. This is an empty gesture, and one for himself...as ALL his actions have been over the years.


27 posted on 03/29/2005 1:16:29 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: churchillbuff

yep, and I agree w/Sean's take on this: whoever it takes, take at face value, assume competence and let 'er rip. (Well, he didn't really say ALL that, but that's the idea.) That also goes for Lanny Davis, Ralph Nader, and anyone else who comes to understand the depth and the depravity of this issue.


28 posted on 03/29/2005 1:23:25 PM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: eccentric

as i understand it, that's part of what he's done.


29 posted on 03/29/2005 1:24:29 PM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: eccentric
Jesse needs to go talk to the Florida lawmakers who voted to kill Terri and others like her

He did exactly that. He is trying to get some members of the florida senate black caucus to change their vote in the bill that failed last week, but a new vote could lead to saving terri's life

there should be prayer for this

30 posted on 03/29/2005 1:24:41 PM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: churchillbuff

Jesse Jackson doesn't have a moral bone in his body. That anyone would fall for his act is astounding.


31 posted on 03/29/2005 1:31:07 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: churchillbuff

I've reviled Jesse Jackson as much as anybody, and probably more than most. But when someone does the right thing, no matter what the motives, I'm ready to applaud their doing the right thing. I'm also calling Jackson's organization to say thanks.


32 posted on 03/29/2005 1:31:36 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: kingattax; cyn

thanks. I only saw newsreports of him at howschwitz


33 posted on 03/29/2005 1:34:20 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: kingattax

Blacks may have a lot of interest in this outcome. In general, blacks enter the end of life earlier. Blacks are generally poorer and can't fight for life, as well as the general population, when in last stages.. So maybe it will sink in.....


35 posted on 03/29/2005 2:00:30 PM PST by glowworm ( Rats and rat behavior, a rat is a rat is a rat..)
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To: churchillbuff

Good idea,whatever his motives for getting involved,atleast he is. Better than sitting on the side lines,wringing your hands and saying I have done everything I can.


36 posted on 03/29/2005 2:04:19 PM PST by olliecollie
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To: glowworm

You just made an excellent point. Its always nice to read a cogent thought in here instead of some jackass simply trying to post a witty comment.


37 posted on 03/29/2005 2:05:58 PM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: A CA Guy

What you say is true, but at this point if Jesse Jackson can influence votes to save Terri, I'm all for it.


38 posted on 03/29/2005 2:46:08 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Dog Gone
Jesse Jackson doesn't have a moral bone in his body. That anyone would fall for his act is astounding.

Attention All: We now have a rival for the Judge of Souls of Men. God Almighty has been challenged by Dog Gone.

39 posted on 03/29/2005 2:46:18 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: kingattax
He is trying to get some members of the florida senate black caucus to change their vote in the bill that failed last

Hannity reporting that Jessee has flipped two of the three needed.

40 posted on 03/29/2005 2:48:09 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
I never thought I'd see the day that something as retarded as this appeared on FR.

FReepers praising Gypsy Jackson's self-serving clap-trap? My God what is the world coming to!?

 

Double-barrelled Mega-PING! to both lists! If you want on, FReepmail me!

41 posted on 03/29/2005 2:48:13 PM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: mhking
So that everyone is clear, Michael has already come down with Boortz with the "let her go to God" nonsense.

It ain't about Jesse, my brother.

42 posted on 03/29/2005 2:50:50 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: churchillbuff

He also firmly supports Michael Jackson. How do you reconcile those two issues?


43 posted on 03/29/2005 2:51:01 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: mhking

I agree wholeheartedly. If JJ had wanted to "help Terri", he'd have done so 12 days ago. (At LEAST)


44 posted on 03/29/2005 2:53:14 PM PST by Sunshine55 (Clemency for Darrell Birt NOW: http://www.petitiononline.com/su5nshin/petition.html)
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To: don-o
So that everyone is clear, Michael has already come down with Boortz with the "let her go to God" nonsense.

It ain't about Jesse, my brother.

I don't hide my position. But I am not about to fall into this "enemy of my enemy is suddenly my friend" BS either.

I don't trust Jackson; I won't trust Jackson. And I have to truly wonder about FR and if it is a place for me if trusting Jesse Jackson to be more than a race-baiting idiot is de rigueur.

45 posted on 03/29/2005 2:53:40 PM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: Liberator

There is at least two of us -- to call Rainbow Push and thank them for Jackson coming in at the last minute -- yeah right. Next thing you know we will be asked to donate to Rainbow Push! :)


46 posted on 03/29/2005 2:54:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: mhking

I just heard Hannity supporting Jackson on his radio program.

When someone's right, the deserve to be supported.

As the old saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.


47 posted on 03/29/2005 2:54:58 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: churchillbuff
I couldn't do it....IMO, it's about keeping himself in the spotlight.
48 posted on 03/29/2005 2:55:24 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: churchillbuff
I just called his organization and asked him to mind his own darn business.

Slob is nothing but an ambulance chaser.

49 posted on 03/29/2005 2:56:29 PM PST by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will get me the rest of the way, too!)
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To: xzins
When someone's right, the deserve to be supported.

So if Hillary Clinton all of a sudden came down on your side of the fence on the Schiavo matter, you'd suddenly fall prostrate at her feet?

Try it again.

50 posted on 03/29/2005 2:56:49 PM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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