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Why Men Hate Church
CBN ^ | April 12th, 2005 | David Murrow

Posted on 04/12/2005 11:43:22 AM PDT by missyme

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To: missyme
Visit the church during the week, and you’ll find most of the people working there are female. Drop in on a committee meeting, and you’ll find a majority of the volunteers are women—unless it’s that small bastion of male presence, the building committee. Look over the leadership roster: the pastor is likely to be a man, but at least two-thirds of the ministry leaders will be women. Examine the sign-up sheets for volunteer work, prayer, Sunday school, and nursery duty. You’ll be lucky to see more than a couple of men’s names on these lists. One pastor recently told me, “If it weren’t for the postman, every visitor to the church during the week would be a woman.”

Sounds like churches are a great place to hunt for babes.

41 posted on 04/12/2005 1:00:11 PM PDT by AZLiberty (WikiWork -- The meme starts here.)
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To: AppyPappy
"...you sound amazingly like a Pharisee."

That has been projected at me in harsher tone over the past couple of years, and it will probably get much worse in time.

We have no master like Caiaphas, who was appointed by the Romans and dismissed along with (his buddy) Pilate a decade later by them. But Romans, in their propaganda, did enjoy representing their installed puppets to the public as Jews.

The church of my childhood has changed very much, indeed.
42 posted on 04/12/2005 1:09:54 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Roman.)
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To: missyme

I think you missy'd it here Missyme, there are plenty of men in the church's. In fact if my memory serves me correctly the 12 apostles, who were torured took it like men, because they were......men.


43 posted on 04/12/2005 1:10:23 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: ikka
The churches that are "back to the Bible" types have a lot of male participation.

Having traveled and attended church services and Catholic Mass in several different states, I can attest that "fundamentalist" churches, regardless of denomination, are thriving with men and women attending and leading services and other aspects of church life.

Those churches, or rather social clubs, with "feel-goodism" theology are attended by "Church widows" with children and older gentlemen attending out of habit or cramming for finals.

The Episcopal Church (ECUSA) is slowly withering away with its inclusion of anyone and everyone. The exception in the Episcopal church that I have seen are the ones still using the 1928 Prayer Book.

44 posted on 04/12/2005 1:34:33 PM PDT by N. Theknow (DUmmies: So low on the food chain they have plankton bites on their butts.)
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To: missyme
Forgive me if someone has alread posted this to the thread, but...A man is tallest when he's on his knees.
45 posted on 04/12/2005 1:39:39 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: sierrahome
Good memories sierrahome.

I have nothing but good memories of my Dad who passed away about 27 years ago and my Grandad who passed away about 5 years before that. Both good men and I've tried to live up to their example. We often mimic those we admire. I got home from work last friday and sat down in my favorite chair, watched my granddaughters running around the living room and began taking off my boots in the same way my Grandad did without realizing it, then stopped, took a deep breath and told my wife, "I've become my Grandad."

46 posted on 04/12/2005 1:46:13 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: missyme
" There is nothing in the Bible to suggest that women are more virtuous or less sinful than men " You can't tell Hitlery or the Feminist that.
Is it any wonder why they attack the Bible and the Church ?
That is their mantra , priding themselves into believing their own false propaganda that women are " MORALLY SUPERIOR THAN MEN ".
The " GENDER GAP " in church, can be attributed to the feminist infiltration of the Body of Christ.
Whether the Church wants to realize it or not, but, the Feminist have successfully infiltrated the Church, and their agenda is to dominate the men, and to " SUBVERT " and to bring down the Church.
Here is a link to a Speech from a well know Feminist/Socialist Barbara Ehrenreich at Barnard Collage last June.
The Speech is about 1/4 down the page.


http://hereticscorner.typepad.com/the_heretics_corner/2004/06/index.html

Here is a comment of her's that is of much interest to us here on FR.
" And we need a kind of woman who isn't trying to assimilate, but to infiltrate-and subvert the intuitions she goes into. "
" If you think equality is the goal, your standards are too low " ( Frightening ? isn't it ? )
In her comments in this speech last June, she also included her call for the feminist to infiltrate, and subvert Christian institutions , how ever, the feminist have been successful in doing that in the Church for the last 40 years.
One of the reasons why the Church is weak today is ? the Church has allowed the feminist to get a stronghold in the Church.
The Church is weak is because the Church has become like the world, worldly standards, worldly attitudes.
47 posted on 04/12/2005 1:47:31 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Betis70
Another way to interpret that word Saintly in the form in that context is, those men were not " SELF RIGHTEOUS " to be viewed by the public to build up their pride and egos.
48 posted on 04/12/2005 1:57:03 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Always Right
The model of what GOD wants is all in Ephesians chapter 5.
49 posted on 04/12/2005 1:58:50 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: missyme
Nonsense. Church is freakin' boring.
50 posted on 04/12/2005 1:59:33 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: frankiep

You think women are not overrepresented in churches today?
That is absolutely true.


51 posted on 04/12/2005 2:10:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: LightCrusader

Nah, they mainly ignore such matters. They read less than they attend church.


52 posted on 04/12/2005 2:13:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: missyme

You know, I think you might have something of truth here. I suspect if it were not for wives and girlfriends, the attendance by men in church would drop by 50% or more. Women are definitely the more likely to bring the family to church and as a man, I thank the Lord for that. In my defense though, I find that Bible study has more to offer than church. Many churches today are more concerned with entertainment than dispensing the Word. I take my religion seriously and don't feel the need to be entertained. I see and feel God's hand all around me when I take a walk in woods.


53 posted on 04/12/2005 2:20:08 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: missyme

Maybe they got turned off on it when they were little boys. I did, about the time the minister came onto my mother.


54 posted on 04/12/2005 4:37:15 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: missyme

Now it is an odd thing that in North American Orthodoxy, except for well-established parishs which have a few old yia-yias or babushkas to claim the title, the most zealous and pious group tend to be the men. (At our mission, the weekday Lenten services are often entirely male.)

Of course this is in part because of converts who fled the sing a few songs and hear a lecture about Jesus 'worship' of American protestantism, which is indeed boring, often dragging their wives reluctantly along--read Frederick Matthews-Green's books for a woman's perspective on the process: her husband was an Episcopalian priest, but is now a priest of the Antiochian Archdiocese.

One protestant attending his first Divine Liturgy objected afterward "but it was all worship!" (Duh!)


55 posted on 04/12/2005 8:13:48 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: Americanexpat

I was raised Lutheran (boring-milquetoast-Minnesota-lutefisk-in-the-church-basement-Lutheran), and I haven't gone to a Lutheran church for anything other than a wedding or funeral since I was fourteen. However, I did go to Christmas Mass with a Catholic friend several times and found it much more enjoyable, because everyone seemed to take the whole thing much more seriously. I think the half-assed approach I grew up with may be something that turns a lot of men away. I now consider myself a deist, and if I ever went back to Christianity it would definitely be Catholocism


56 posted on 04/12/2005 8:39:23 PM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: lesser_satan

Catholocism= Catholicism

My bad.


57 posted on 04/12/2005 8:40:51 PM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: missyme
This guy is full of it, and I dare him or anyone else to insinuate to my face that my attendance at mass is less than manly.
58 posted on 04/13/2005 1:56:27 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( .:: Johannes Paulus Magnus: "Well done, good and faithful servant!" ::.)
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