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What is the Future of Rock Music?
myself | 5/12/2005 | Pyro7480

Posted on 05/13/2005 12:42:11 PM PDT by Pyro7480

It seems like mainstream rock has been faltering as of late. Rock stations in major markets like Philadelphia have changed formats It isn't helped by the fact that hip hop/R&B is what is mainly marketed to young people these days, and that's what they like. In the music industry in general, there hasn't been an actual brand new genre since new wave/synth pop hit in the late 1970s and 1980s.

At the same time, there are "new" bands that are playing what has been described as "post punk" or "neo New Wave." These bands include the Bravery, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, and the Killers. They're not playing anything groundbreaking, since this genre dates from the late 1970s. In my opinion, however, it's nice to hear something "fresh," unlike the neo-punk acts like Green Day, et al.

There are other acts like Audioslave that are still going strong without the music scene backing them up.

Will bands like the Killers start a revival of rock, or will it continue to founder?


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1 posted on 05/13/2005 12:42:14 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480

A scary though is an 80 year old man listening to Alice in Chains 40 years down the road. (me)


2 posted on 05/13/2005 12:44:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: Pyro7480

'It seems like mainstream rock has been faltering as of late."


If by "as of late", you mean "for the last 15 years", then yeah - I agree.

Rock is dead. Only Jesus could Lazarus it back to life.


3 posted on 05/13/2005 12:45:00 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: cripplecreek

I never really got into them. I was more of a Soundgarden/Nirvana/Stone Temple Pilots guy in my early teens.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 12:45:29 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, it will happen..

I'm already 45 years old and still listening to Alice (Cooper, that is)


5 posted on 05/13/2005 12:46:01 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (This Tagline is on hiatus as I think of a new one.)
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To: Pyro7480; cripplecreek
I will still be listening to classic rock and '80's heavy metal no matter how old I get.
6 posted on 05/13/2005 12:46:21 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Pyro7480

I like them too and Megadeth and Metallica (up to reload) I liked Tool a lot.


7 posted on 05/13/2005 12:46:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: Blzbba

Nah, there's plenty of good rock music. It just can't be found on the radio.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 12:47:18 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (This Tagline is on hiatus as I think of a new one.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Did/Do you like RATT? I don't think I've heard much by them, and unlike Van Halen/Guns and Roses/et al, they're not as well known today.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 12:48:14 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: cripplecreek

Not as scary as a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds runing out to buy tickets to the latest Rolling Stones concert.


10 posted on 05/13/2005 12:51:14 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

"I will still be listening to classic rock and '80's heavy metal no matter how old I get."


Me too.


11 posted on 05/13/2005 12:55:53 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Pyro7480
I like RATT. I am going to a show next month WASP, LA Guns and Steve Pearcy's new band.

I like AC/DC, Alice Cooper, KISS, Motorhead (Lemmy is God), Metallica (old stuff), Megedeath, Slayer, Testament, etc... I would be typing all day if I kept going.
12 posted on 05/13/2005 12:56:09 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Pyro7480

I stoppped listening to 'new' music 10 years ago. The last new band I liked was "Live". Their "Throwing Copper" album was pretty good.

I heard a Steely Dan song the other day on our local Oldies station.

I know I'm in trouble when Steely Dan is considered "old".

I'm convinced there was a point in the mid 80's that rock music was perfected. Everything that's come after it is rehashed and recycled.


13 posted on 05/13/2005 12:56:49 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art.")
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To: cripplecreek

"listening to Alice in Chains 40 years down the road. (me)"


AIC, IMO, was the absolute best of the 'grunge' bands. Too bad Layne Staley got hooked on heroin. Did you know that when they found his body, he'd been dead (OD'd) for over 2 weeks!? Not many friends did he make, apparently.


14 posted on 05/13/2005 12:58:08 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: cripplecreek

" Megadeth and Metallica (up to reload)"


Ditto. "Rust in Peace" and "Euthanasia" are excellent. Dave Mustaine rules!


15 posted on 05/13/2005 12:58:56 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
I'm convinced there was a point in the mid 80's that rock music was perfected.

Riiiiight..... :)

16 posted on 05/13/2005 12:59:06 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJD - We Want Jack Daniels!)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Slipknot, Korn, Kasabien, they're all awesome. You're all just old geezers.


17 posted on 05/13/2005 12:59:50 PM PDT by FredWolfe
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

"I like RATT. I am going to a show next month WASP, LA Guns and Steve Pearcy's new band."


Rock on, sister!

I bought George Lynch's "rEvolution" from his website and was happy to hear him still thrashing on the guitar. I was a big Dokken fan, but mostly for Lynch's incredible talent.

I was listening to Skid Row's "Slave to the Grind" just the other day and was reminiscing on just how pure Sebastian Bach's vocals are/were...Ahh..youth.


18 posted on 05/13/2005 1:01:55 PM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: Pyro7480
Listen, everything on the air - with the exception of a few C&W songs - sucks like an airplane toilet. I haven't listened to music on the radio since 1982. Until they stop dressing up talentless sluts that hop around to repetitive techno-hoo-ha I'll stick with my Elvis CDs.
19 posted on 05/13/2005 1:02:05 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If you can't dance then you're no friend of mine. LOL


20 posted on 05/13/2005 1:03:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: Pyro7480
It seems like mainstream rock has been faltering as of late.

I can't really think of any new rock talent coming out since at least 1990. The concept of "band" has almost disappeared, except for "alternative" music (which is really becoming more like pop). For whatever the reason, the real musical talent in the past 15 years has been in country music, but most of that is really just pop too. I don't think we will ever again see the likes of the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, etc.

21 posted on 05/13/2005 1:04:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: cripplecreek

You'll dance to anything.

22 posted on 05/13/2005 1:04:42 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJD - We Want Jack Daniels!)
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To: Pyro7480

The last rock album by a "new group" I can remember enjoying was Green Day's "Dookie," which was a decade ago. I have a feeling that rock is going the way of big band music.


23 posted on 05/13/2005 1:06:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Will somebody PLEASE stop that hammering!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

*ahem*

I said "rock" - not new-wave euro-trash pop-bubblegum garbage. :-)


24 posted on 05/13/2005 1:07:38 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art.")
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To: Blzbba

The good old days are gone. I like Skid Row too.


25 posted on 05/13/2005 1:07:44 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Pyro7480

Rock is dead they said; Long Live Rock!
--The Who

No new rock genre since the '80's?! Ever heard of Grunge?

I would agree with you, however, that the rock landscape is best described as a wasteland. Think Nevada Test Site--a few outposts of civilization, but nothing but scorched earth beyond that.

Another movement will hit; it's inevitable. Some lucky schmuck(s) will be in the right place at the right time playing the right thing.


26 posted on 05/13/2005 1:09:28 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Exhibit # 2 :)

27 posted on 05/13/2005 1:09:54 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJD - We Want Jack Daniels!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL...the Dead Milkmen - hadn't heard them since my skater days.

"You know something Stuart - I like you. You're not like the other people here in this trailer park."


28 posted on 05/13/2005 1:10:00 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art.")
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To: Jaysun

There was some good music when I was in high school in the early 80s. Ronnie Dio was with Sabbath and Ozzie was doing well on his own. Richie Blackmore had just formed Rainbow. Pat Traverse was good. There was Judas Priest, Blue oyster cult, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, etc etc etc.


29 posted on 05/13/2005 1:10:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I scared the heck out of my wife yesterday by singing along to Mojo Nixon's "Elvis is Everywhere" and knowing all the words. :) (She didn't know me in the 80's)


30 posted on 05/13/2005 1:11:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJD - We Want Jack Daniels!)
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To: Clemenza

A lot of the stuff I've been listening to have been from the UK. Some of them are Muse, Snow Patrol, Keane, and Bloc Party, whose album I got yesterday. It's a "refreshing" sound. The way I describe it is "punk with funk." It has the tempo and energy of punk, but the drums and bass make it "danceable." Of course, bands like Gang of Four and Joy Division did that almost 30 years ago, but it's better than most of the things I've heard recently.


31 posted on 05/13/2005 1:11:32 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

>>has been faltering as of late<<

Yeah, as long as you define "late" as since about 1986 or so.

However, in fairness, so called mainstream stuff along many lines of music have been faltering for between 5 and perhaps 35 years.


32 posted on 05/13/2005 1:11:32 PM PDT by 1L
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To: randog

Grunge isn't completely new, in my opinion. It has its roots in punk and metal.


33 posted on 05/13/2005 1:12:28 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480
What is the Future of Rock Music?

Hanson.

34 posted on 05/13/2005 1:16:03 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Pyro7480

35 posted on 05/13/2005 1:16:20 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Bush is doing practically nothing to prevent hurricanes." Environmentalist Aimee Christensen)
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To: Clemenza

Despite its political bent, Green Day's American Idiot is still very good.

I think Rock is back on the upswing now. There was a period where Korn, Limp Bizkit and Creed tried to destroy Rock but they were defeated. With bands like Audioslave, The White Stripes, The Vines etc Rock is better then it was a few years ago.

As a side note, I advise everyone who hasn't yet to check out the Drive By Truckers. They are my new favorite band.


36 posted on 05/13/2005 1:17:20 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Pyro7480
Grunge isn't completely new, in my opinion. It has its roots in punk and metal.

And rock has its roots in blues.

Grunge, IMO, is a re-hash of '70's hard rock. The guitar playing style, the singer/songwriter-based bands, all scream '70's hard rock. And, yes, it's mixed with punk to give it all a new style.

37 posted on 05/13/2005 1:20:12 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"We asked for Mojo Nixon, they said 'He don't work here' - Said if you don't got Mojo Nixon, then your store could use some fixiiiiiin'" ~Punk Rock Girl

The Wife and I get a kick out of the VH1 digital channel that shows all the old 80's videos.

Of course - I can't break dance now like I could then...


38 posted on 05/13/2005 1:20:34 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art.")
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To: Pyro7480

These young people just don't rock anymore. Or don't know how to. But, listening to the old time rock and roll, it isn't so hot anymore either and can't compare with the original experience at the time.


39 posted on 05/13/2005 1:21:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Drive-By Truckers bump. They bring the ROCK like no one else these days.


40 posted on 05/13/2005 1:24:04 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
I had my suspicions.
41 posted on 05/13/2005 1:24:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: Pyro7480

42 posted on 05/13/2005 1:27:06 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: Pyro7480
Rock's not dead, but it was coughing up blood this morning.

Good new bands are few and far between. Best thing I've heard lately is a Japanese band called Judy and Mary, the perfect meld of pop and punk with female vocals. Seek out their song "Motto" - killer!
43 posted on 05/13/2005 1:27:35 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: Pyro7480

There hasn't been any real rock for the past 15 years. Most new "rock" bands are just noise.


44 posted on 05/13/2005 1:28:07 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Pyro7480
They're not playing anything groundbreaking, since this genre dates from the late 1970s. In my opinion, however, it's nice to hear something "fresh," unlike the neo-punk acts like Green Day, et al.

Hmmm, sounds a bit contradictory. I actually do like Greenday's sound. I could do without the idiot politics though. Shut up and sing.

45 posted on 05/13/2005 1:32:32 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: cripplecreek
There was some good music when I was in high school in the early 80s. Ronnie Dio was with Sabbath and Ozzie was doing well on his own. Richie Blackmore had just formed Rainbow. Pat Traverse was good. There was Judas Priest, Blue oyster cult, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, etc etc etc.

But that's 25 years ago champ. Hey, here's the great white hope. Not rock, but just lovely. Plays the piano and sings coherently. She's talented.....Texan .......tantalizing... what's not to love?


46 posted on 05/13/2005 1:34:24 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; wardaddy
Derek Trucks!

I'm more concerned about the future of Southern Rock. The greats are getting older, and a few have passed on recently: Danny Joe Brown and Jakson Spires. Who will fill those shoes? Trucks is the only one I'm aware of. There has to be others.

47 posted on 05/13/2005 1:38:56 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Jaysun

I like Norah Jones, though she DEFINITELY isn't rock. She's a mix of jazz and country/western. I've seen her twice in concert, and she's GREAT.


48 posted on 05/13/2005 1:41:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480
I like Norah Jones, though she DEFINITELY isn't rock. She's a mix of jazz and country/western. I've seen her twice in concert, and she's GREAT.

She's a serious threat to my marriage. I've seen her in concert too. Super.
49 posted on 05/13/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Rebelbase

DBT and Widespread Panic bump


50 posted on 05/13/2005 1:50:47 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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