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R. Gordon Says He Didn't Mean to Disrespect Patrick
aolnews ^ | 6 1 05 | JENNA FRYER

Posted on 06/01/2005 10:18:58 AM PDT by freepatriot32

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (May 31) - Robby Gordon was not being critical of Danica Patrick when he said she had an unfair weight advantage in the Indianapolis 500. Rather, he said he was simply discussing a flaw in the Indy Racing League's rules.

"The only thing I was saying was that I have a problem with the rule, not any particular driver," Gordon said Tuesday. "I've been impressed with Danica from the first time she got in an IRL car earlier this year, and I certainly did not mean to disrespect her or any other driver."

Patrick wowed the racing world by becoming the highest-finishing female driver in Indianapolis history with a fourth-place finish on Sunday.

Gordon stated the day before the race that because Patrick weighs just 100 pounds, her car is lighter than everyone else in the field. Unlike other series, the IRL does not include a driver when setting its weight limit.

In NASCAR, where Gordon currently competes, the minimum weight requirement includes the driver.

But in the IRL, a car must weigh 1,525 pounds before the fuel and driver are added. A smaller driver would have at least a slight edge over heavier ones because of the rule.

"This rule has been around for years, and it's something that Paul Tracy and I have talked about for a long time," said Gordon, who weighs nearly 200 pounds.

Gordon's comments actually echoed those of several drivers in Indianapolis who complained that Patrick had an advantage.

"It makes a big difference," race-winner Dan Wheldon said Tuesday. "If it didn't in qualifying, you wouldn't worry about the fuel. We try to make it basically run out during qualifying, and that's what a difference of six or seven pounds makes. I definitely think it's an advantage and I'm pretty sure in due time you'll have a rule change on that."

Sam Hornish Jr., who weighs roughly 60 pounds more than Patrick, said two days before the race that the size difference gave her an edge.

"That's got to be worth something," Hornish told the Toledo Blade. "Whether you calculate speed or fuel economy, that little difference is a factor."

Hornish's bosses at Penske Racing even figured out the mathematical advantage Patrick had.

"That's probably worth something like 0.8 of a mile an hour," team president Tim Cindric said.

Gordon, who didn't run in the Indy 500 this season for the first time in 10 years, said he was trying to make the same point.

Instead, his comments were interpreted by many as Gordon being critical of Patrick. He stressed Tuesday that was never his intent.

"Indy is one of the toughest races in the world to finish, let alone win, and the fact that she ran up front for most of the 200 laps proved her ability to drive," he said. "Given that she is so young, I would be amazed if she didn't win at least one Indy 500.

"Had she won, it would have done more for the IRL and the Indy 500 than could ever be imagined. As one who loves that race as much or more than any other, it would have been great to see because it would have been huge for the IRL."

IRL officials have said they are not considering changing the weight requirements.

Wheldon said the rules have forced the IRL regulars to be as light as possible.

"A lot of us have changed our training regimen for that," he said. "I'm not lifting as much weight as I used to, and I'm running like a son of a gun."


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update to a story I posted sunday

NASCAR Driver Says Female Phenom Has Unfair Edge(Danica Patrick)

1 posted on 06/01/2005 10:19:00 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

Sorry Robby, you're still a crybaby.


2 posted on 06/01/2005 10:20:03 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: freepatriot32

Go on a diet and quit yer gripin', ya bunch of lard-butts!


3 posted on 06/01/2005 10:21:12 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: freepatriot32

So that's why Jimmy Spencer and lately Tony Stewart don't win in Nascar? I thought they just sucked. Now I know that they are fat asses who suck.


4 posted on 06/01/2005 10:21:44 AM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: Petronski

But does he have a point??? NASCAR has weight adjustment.

Maybe he shouldn't have been such a baby about his comment.


5 posted on 06/01/2005 10:22:35 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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To: freepatriot32

What bugs be about the whole Danica thing is how the press has such a boner over her. I don't remember all this press for Lynn St. James or Sarah Fisher. Probably because they weren't as nice to look at.

Though, I admit she is a much better driver.


6 posted on 06/01/2005 10:22:51 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: freepatriot32

OK, the Ann Coutler rule must apply to all Danicia Patrick threads. Someone please start posting the pictures. Of Patrick, that is.


7 posted on 06/01/2005 10:23:06 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: henkster

Hey, Tony doesn't suck.


8 posted on 06/01/2005 10:23:27 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: freepatriot32

9 posted on 06/01/2005 10:24:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: freepatriot32

Sounds more like he's apologizing for being caught being a dumb-ass.


10 posted on 06/01/2005 10:24:24 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Perdogg

He should try NASCAR or F1, which adjust for weight.

Playing in a league with no such rule and bitching about it is very childish behavior.


11 posted on 06/01/2005 10:25:13 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Rodney King
Here ya go.
12 posted on 06/01/2005 10:25:32 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe

Do you remember the 500 when St. James and Fisher wrecked each other? What are the odds the two women drivers find each other and take each other out? I'll bet one was putting on make up while the other was on the cell phone.


13 posted on 06/01/2005 10:25:38 AM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: conservativebabe

Thanks.


14 posted on 06/01/2005 10:26:51 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: henkster

LOL! Lynn was always too conservative for my taste. That was rookie error by Fisher.

Lynn's philosophy was always to just finish, selling herself short.

At least Danica is in it to win it.


15 posted on 06/01/2005 10:27:38 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe

OK, I admit he doesn't.

But since Joe went back to the NFL sidelines, Gibbs sure does.

Last spring we toured the shops in Charlotte. It was the Thursday before a day off (Good Friday). Ganassi, Roush, Hendrick, they were all busting their butts even though it was an open date.

Gibbs shop was dead. A few guys walking around with their wives/girlfriends/kids. I knew then they were in decline.


16 posted on 06/01/2005 10:28:22 AM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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To: henkster
Do you remember the 500 when St. James and Fisher wrecked each other? What are the odds the two women drivers find each other and take each other out? I'll bet one was putting on make up while the other was on the cell phone.

Now Now, stop it. It would be hard to do either in those cars. They were probably just both distracted from it being a bad time of the month and they were worried that they left the iron on at home and might burn the house down.

17 posted on 06/01/2005 10:28:29 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Petronski

I agree.


18 posted on 06/01/2005 10:28:29 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President - 2008)
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To: freepatriot32

Robbie:


You need lose around 75 pounds in your butt and gain a pound in your brain.


Idiot!


19 posted on 06/01/2005 10:29:08 AM PDT by jsbankston
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To: freepatriot32

Robbie:


You need lose around 75 pounds in your butt and gain a pound in your brain.


Idiot!


20 posted on 06/01/2005 10:29:10 AM PDT by jsbankston
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To: maggiefluffs

Hey, I just reported you to the mods. No pics of guys!


21 posted on 06/01/2005 10:30:15 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Just followin' the rules

22 posted on 06/01/2005 10:30:51 AM PDT by acad1228
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To: Rodney King
Here's another one.
23 posted on 06/01/2005 10:31:04 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: freepatriot32
I don't care for Robby Gordon, but he's right. A lighter drive has an advantage.

In Nascar the packages (driver, car, fuel) weight the same.

IRL does not adjust for driver weight.

A lighter car will accelerate faster, hug turns better, and get better mileage.

Even a tiny bit helps over a 500 mile race.

Still, Danica is a very impressive driver.
24 posted on 06/01/2005 10:31:35 AM PDT by ryan71 (Speak softly and carry a BIG STICK)
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To: conservativebabe

You rock.


25 posted on 06/01/2005 10:31:40 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: freepatriot32
He does sound like a crybaby, but the truth is even 50lbs makes a difference when lap times are measured to .001ths
Odds are it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things with all the yellows and pit stops and other things that happen in the race, but why add any more vagaries.
She did well, and it would be good to add a few lbs to the car so that a guy like this can't whine. It also might get more of the NASCAR guys to show up.
26 posted on 06/01/2005 10:32:21 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent intelligent posts)
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To: henkster

Ya know, Rahal/Letterman racing seems to be on to something lately. Maybe they need to get involved in NASCAR.


27 posted on 06/01/2005 10:33:12 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ryan71
I don't care for Robby Gordon, but he's right. A lighter drive has an advantage.

How big of an advantage can it be? In horse racing, it is a big advantage, therefore the jockeys are all elves. If it was such a big deal in IRL, wouldn't the racers over time all become little elves too? Clearly the individual teams think that it is not a very important factor.

28 posted on 06/01/2005 10:33:18 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

29 posted on 06/01/2005 10:33:21 AM PDT by maggief
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To: freepatriot32

Far be it from me to miss a chance to bash Robby Gordon, but it seems to me that he went out of his way to clarify his remarks and compliment Patrick's performance. Robby gets a free pass from me the next time he acts like a jerk -- but it's just one, Robby.


30 posted on 06/01/2005 10:33:56 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Rodney King

Thanks :)


31 posted on 06/01/2005 10:34:45 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Rodney King

Ha!

See post #29.


32 posted on 06/01/2005 10:34:51 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Rodney King

if you are really deperate, go to images.google.com and search danica patrick, I'm sure you'll find an afternoon full of looking


33 posted on 06/01/2005 10:35:54 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: maggiefluffs

Oh man. Who's that guy with her?


34 posted on 06/01/2005 10:36:43 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Asphalt

They have lots, that's where I got mine, but I can't get the images to enlarge. It's probably me, I'm not as computer savvy as most here.


35 posted on 06/01/2005 10:37:00 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: maggiefluffs

Is that Dale Jr.? I hope they don't have kids, I'd hate to have to chase those little critters around the yard.


36 posted on 06/01/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: conservativebabe
Lynn's philosophy was always to just finish, selling herself short.

Roger Penske espouses the idea that to finish first, first you have to finish. That goes back to the days when Mark Donahue was his #1 driver.
37 posted on 06/01/2005 10:38:33 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent intelligent posts)
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To: Petronski

From the article "In NASCAR, where Gordon currently competes, the minimum weight requirement includes the driver"

He does try NASCAR, it is where he got the idea!


38 posted on 06/01/2005 10:38:45 AM PDT by jimbergin
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To: henkster

If you had ever seen jimmy spencer in a modified and Stewart in a sprint car you would not say that. Both are awesome.


39 posted on 06/01/2005 10:39:15 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: conservativebabe

The press was CERTAINLY there for Lyn. She had a lot less talent that Patrick, too.


40 posted on 06/01/2005 10:40:09 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: jimbergin

Then he should stick to NASCAR and F1 if he wants that rule.


41 posted on 06/01/2005 10:43:15 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Petronski

He has nowhere near the talent required for F1. He does very well off road, though.


42 posted on 06/01/2005 10:44:39 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: freepatriot32

Good grief... I can't imagine weight difference makes that much difference in a race car.... what a whiner!


43 posted on 06/01/2005 10:45:20 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: conservativebabe

with the "<" signals after typing img src="picture location" type: image hight="750" image width="800"> just example numbers, after expirementing around for a while, you'll get to know what dimensions work best for what type of picture. Just always remember to preview before you post lest is be huge.


44 posted on 06/01/2005 10:46:13 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ... All thing football ... FReepmail Asphalt to get on or off)
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To: ctlpdad

That's true.

I guess I don't remember the press. I am getting old I guess.
I was at Indy for all of her races, it was fun to root for the girl.


45 posted on 06/01/2005 10:46:40 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Asphalt

Thanks for the tip.


46 posted on 06/01/2005 10:47:24 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ctlpdad
He has nowhere near the talent required for F1.

Undoubtedly that's why he's bitching about the rules of IRL: he can't compete in F1, but wants to race open-wheel.

47 posted on 06/01/2005 10:47:36 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: conservativebabe

She was getting into Indy when I got sick of it. All they talked about was Lyn St James. The same deal when Janet Guthrie ran. They had no special talent, but sucked way far more than their 1/33 (obviously skewed for talent & name recognition) of the hype.


48 posted on 06/01/2005 10:51:20 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: Rodney King

Danica Patrick and fiance Paul Hospenthal


49 posted on 06/01/2005 10:52:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: henkster
So that's why Jimmy Spencer and lately Tony Stewart don't win in Nascar?

How did Stewart become the 2002 champion without winning?

50 posted on 06/01/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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