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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?
1 posted on 06/21/2005 9:37:47 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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I'll vote for bad films, high ticket prices and DVD rentals.

Although if there's a big heat wave, will people go to a movie theatre for the air conditioning?


2 posted on 06/21/2005 9:40:01 AM PDT by cvq3842
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Don't they make as much or more on DVD sales or is it the studios don't want to share with the distributors? Anyway, good!


3 posted on 06/21/2005 9:40:12 AM PDT by poobear
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My life is a Movie.

I don't have to see the Hollywood Junk !!


4 posted on 06/21/2005 9:40:27 AM PDT by Zenith
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You make bad movies and people stay away. What was the name of Ridley Scott's Crusade pic? I have already forgotten it! Of course they have always made bad movies and people came anyway, but nowadays people have better alternatives. Here's a prediction for another couple of flops: BEWITCHED and WAR OF THE WORLDS.


5 posted on 06/21/2005 9:40:52 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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put out something decent and folks will come see it. sequels, remakes and rehashings don't cut it. too much competition for people's time these days for them to go out and indulge in the garbage that fills theaters these days.


6 posted on 06/21/2005 9:41:47 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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My theory is they spend so much on a handful of films that there are fewer good films to see. In fact, I think statistics show they are making fewer movies.

Damned If I Know

8 posted on 06/21/2005 9:43:36 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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probably a combination of bad movies and the ever-improving quality of DVDs and home entertainment systems. Strangely, although fewer people have gone to the theater this year, I've been to the movies more times this year than I have in previous years for as long as I can remember. However, I've only seen one movie that I really liked Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy at the theater. So far there isn't another movie I'd like to see this year til Narnia comes out at Christmas.
11 posted on 06/21/2005 9:45:28 AM PDT by sassbox
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Herbie, Bewitched, Batman - not an original thought in the group. No thanks, I'll read a book instead.


12 posted on 06/21/2005 9:45:56 AM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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all time record. Of course prices are higher. Any discussion of box office must include actual tickets sold.


15 posted on 06/21/2005 9:47:47 AM PDT by bigsigh
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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?

Speaking just for myself, I can no longer get sucked into the Hollywood stories and fantasies. The stories make no sense, coherent plot lines are not required and actors are phony, they look plastic, are not credible, I’ve seen it all done before and much better. Maybe I’m just getting older

18 posted on 06/21/2005 9:50:39 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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I vote for 'all of the above' plus a general distaste for Hollywood.


20 posted on 06/21/2005 9:51:34 AM PDT by Leg Olam (I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years.)
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For many films the theatrical release is in effect a trailer that they (Hollywood) know will lose money. That is the trailer for where the moolah is really made, in the DVDs and foreign sales of DVDs and foreign theatrical showings.


23 posted on 06/21/2005 9:54:22 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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I think it is all of the above. I enjoy the movie going experience, but in terms of that sort of entertainment, I find that home entertainment technology makes the experience at home just as enjoyable, plus you have the added benefit of all the luxuries of being at home.

On an individual level, now that my wife and I have two children, she and I go to the movies maybe once every three months.

The last movie I saw was Batman Begins. I thought it was well done and far, far better than that crap from Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher.


24 posted on 06/21/2005 9:58:21 AM PDT by new cruelty
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If you look here:All Time Top 100 Movies

You will see the top 100 movies of all time based on box office gross. Of the 100, the following 12 are R Rated.

#9 The Passion of Christ 2004
#24 The Matrix Reloaded 2003
#41 Beverly Hills Cop 1984
#43 The Exorcist 2000 Re-release
#50 Saving Private Ryan 1998
#56 Terminator 2 Judgment Day 1991
#64 Gladiator 2000
#79 Pretty Women 1990
#82 There’s Something About Mary 1998
#89 Air Force 1 1997
#90 Rainman 1998
#93 The Matrix 1999

That’s 12%. The other 88% are G, PG, PG-13 or unrated (like Snow White). The message is that as long as Hollywood keeps making those lousy R rated movies they are going to continue to sink. They just can't seem to give up on the idea that if they can convince us to accept their Hollywood value system (life is just sex, drugs, foul language, abuse and violent confrontations) then we would love their movies. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

25 posted on 06/21/2005 10:00:12 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?

How about the public's sick of Hollywood swine actors.

26 posted on 06/21/2005 10:01:09 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?

All of the above plus a couple. The entire movie-going experience is worth enduring only for the best flicks. High ticket prices, outrageous prices at the concession stand (we go without or sneak stuff in), and above all - herds of misbehaved, *unattended* urchins who believe the facility is their own personal playground.

We're looking forward to the Firefly spin-off movie "Serenity" later this summer. It is a fine example of the impact of DVDs. From what I understand the backing wasn't available for the film until word of mouth caused huge sales on the TV series DVD box set. There is a poll on the website trying to gauge the interest in continuing the TV series on a direct-to-DVD basis. Hugh potential there. Hugh! Not just for obscure sci-fi stories, but family-friendly programming, too.

29 posted on 06/21/2005 10:03:32 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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All of the above plus the political factor; very very few Hollywierdo's I want getting MY dollars!

That said, I HAVE enjoyed every trip to the IMAX. "Fighter Pilot" was just awesome!!

33 posted on 06/21/2005 10:29:50 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck (Life is so short. Play naked.)
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The last movie I went to a theater to see was Fight Club. I think that was released in 1999.

For me, I'm just sick of the Hollywood mindset. I'm loathe to give them even a penny of my money for any reason. I have DirecTv. Any movie I might be interested in will be on a movie channel in 6 mos.


34 posted on 06/21/2005 10:59:00 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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I'll see 'Land of the Dead' and 'Fantastic Four.'

I am a huge 'Dead' fan going back as far as I can remember! It's good seeing the zombies come back again under the hand of George Romero.


36 posted on 06/21/2005 11:02:48 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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Land of the Dead isn't a remake (is it?). Dawn of the Dead was a remake of Romero's Dawn of the Dead.

I'm not even sure if this is a sequel. He's already allowed two of the films to be remade.

There are more avenues for entertainment dollars and time than every before.

Television put a dent in theaters as well.


37 posted on 06/21/2005 11:05:57 AM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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Many movies are clearly BAD (although well produced crap).

The question remains, will people watch them?

How are cable tv ratings and dvd sales/rentals of these titles?

How many truly independent films that never get released nationally do far better on home video than they ever got in box office take?

Same is true of music, sales for a single artist/company may be slumping but there are more players in the game than ever (especially when you factor in back catalog titles).


38 posted on 06/21/2005 11:08:40 AM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?

CULPRIT? Big screen TV's, busy lifestyles, and the fact that you can get a hit movie on DVD or pay per view not too long after it is released to theaters. Plus, you can enjoy a fine cigar and a beer while watching at home.

39 posted on 06/21/2005 11:08:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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"And with the remakes 'Herbie: Fully Loaded', 'Bewitched' and George Romero's 'Land of the Dead' --none of which is expected to rack up blockbuster totals--set to land in theatres this week, it's possible that the current slump may very well become the new benchmark for poor box office performance."


It's because of films like HERBIE, BEWITCHED, etc. that no one's coming. When are these people going to wake up?


41 posted on 06/21/2005 2:09:20 PM PDT by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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Ticket prices are so high Hollywood stars and executives attend free premiers only. LOL

Hollywood and the theater owners need this. They've taken every opportunity to make movie going less entertaining by gouging their customers. Let them all fill their registers with empty receipt boxes for awhile.


44 posted on 06/21/2005 2:26:40 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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People flocked to see "The Passion of the Christ." Stood in long lines to get in. Some even went back to see it two or three more times.

Hollywood still refuses to get the message.


45 posted on 06/21/2005 7:45:29 PM PDT by Cedar
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So what is the culprit: bad films, gas prices, DVD's or all of the above?

The trend is only going to get WORSE. This is due to the fact that Hi-Def wide screen TVs are kicking in. Play you DVDs on the Hi-Def wide screen TV and, if you have a good sound system, you're replicated the effect of seeing it in the movie theater. A family of 4 saves a BUNDLE by watching movies this way.

46 posted on 06/23/2005 10:37:14 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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