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FReeper Family Table - Emergency Preparedness
Freepers | July 8, 2005 | Gabz

Posted on 07/08/2005 5:51:38 AM PDT by Gabz

I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant Independence Day weekend.

Being scattered all over the country, we all encounter different forms of the wrath of mother nature, be it hurricanes, blizzards, tornados, earthquakes, flooding or what have you and we all deal with them differently.

In honor of the fact that Dennis the Menace is now on the verge of becoming a Category 5 Hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, I thought sharing preparation plans would be a good idea, not just for 'canes, but anything else Mother Nature dumps in your neck of the woods.


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One thing I need to do better at preparing for is power outages. *SIGH* I had a real cute thread prepared for this morning complete with graphics and fun stuff..........but alas I didn't save it and so when I got up this morning, I had to start all over.

I really should know better: SAVE ALL WORK BEFORE CALLING IT A NIGHT.

1 posted on 07/08/2005 5:51:38 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: elk; wisconsinconservative; Tax-chick; LadyShallott; DUDLEY; GatorGirl; PersonalLiberties; ...

Good morning, everyone.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 5:52:31 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Old Sarge; BibChr; John O; AppyPappy; dogbyte12; winodog; FatherofFive; Newshues; TXBSAFH; ...

Good morning Everone!!!!!


3 posted on 07/08/2005 5:53:10 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: TXBSAFH

Please give us all an update on your beautiful twins and on how you and mommy are doing!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 07/08/2005 5:54:01 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Good morning Gabz!

I'm not very good at the preparedness thing. Hubby sort of scoffs at "saving" water in gallon jugs (If the house is torn apart by a tornado, what good would jugs of water in the basement do?) Ha!


5 posted on 07/08/2005 5:56:15 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarCMC

Hubby does have a point.

Tornados are not something we tend to have around these parts, but I do have to store water because no electricity means no water........


6 posted on 07/08/2005 6:01:39 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Remember the water in the hot water heater. Shut the gas off before draining it!


7 posted on 07/08/2005 6:18:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Gabz

In times of weather emergencies be prepared to care for your family for up to 3 days. The following list includes basic items you should consider.
1. Fill your gas tanks.
2. Store water. (1 gallon per person per day.)
3. Stock nonperishable foods.
4. Non-electric can opener.
5. Acquire needed medications & medical supplies.
6. Fully charge cell phone batteries.
7. Flashlight & radio with extra batteries.
8. Mobile home residents plan for safer shelter. (Winds)
9. Sufficient cash on hands. (ATMs don't work if power is out.)
10. Assist mentally or physically challenged neighbors with preparations.
11. Secure pets & livestock.


8 posted on 07/08/2005 6:25:31 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: B4Ranch

I had never thought of that before...........but we have on demand hotwater, so there is minimum amount of water in it.


9 posted on 07/08/2005 6:32:11 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Timely thread for us Gators, I guess!

Hurricane time means taking in all the loose stuff--potted plants, patio furniture, hoses, etc...

Making sure we have plenty of nonperishable food and water and packing the freezer with Zip Loc bags or Tupperware containers of water--to help keep stuff cold in the event of a power failure as well as to provide fresh water. Filling up the propane tanks and getting a couple extra, for cooking on the grill if we don't have power (our grill has side burners for pots as well). Checking to be sure we have enough batteries for flashlights and stocking up on candles.

Yes, even filling the bathtubs, not for drinking water, but to assist in flushing the toilets!

That's it! I try not to go overboard. Four hurricanes in the space of 1 1/2 months last year gave me a severe case of "hurricane fatigue". Even if we don't get a direct hit, if that thing brushes by, we could get some pretty good winds and possible tornadoes. However, if we are in line for a "direct hit", I will pack plenty of pillows and blankets into the laundry room for a "safe room". It is actually the most interior room (my ONLY interior room, actually--every other room is on an exterior wall) and it makes the kids feel safe and cozy, not to mention a good spot if we hear that dreaded "train coming". Better safe than sorry!


10 posted on 07/08/2005 6:32:15 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: B4Ranch

In case of high winds:

Secure all outdoor patio furniture, etc........they can become missiles in high winds.


11 posted on 07/08/2005 6:34:58 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: GatorGirl
Timely thread for us Gators, I guess!

That's' exactly why I thought of it!

The laundry room sounds like a very good move for you.

12 posted on 07/08/2005 6:39:05 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

When these storms get into the interior, they can spawn lots of flooding and tornadoes so I guess it's timely for most of the South and even up into New England, unfortunately.

I try to make hurricanes as "fun" and not scary for the kids as I can. We try to instill that the storms are serious and we have to prepare but I don't want them to be terrified of them. Last year, when the winds died down a bit, the kids came out into the street (everyone was cooped up in the house so long) and they got their rollerblades and umbrellas and windsurfed down the street. I made a great scrapbook page of it!

My husband often has to work, storm or not, or is on call in case of mass casualty, so we often have to ride out the storm by ourselves. We try to play board games and read, and we keep the TV on as long as possible to keep an eye on the track of the storm.

Oh, I forgot making sure the cars are full of gas and grabbing some cash from the ATM.


13 posted on 07/08/2005 6:50:26 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: StarCMC; Gabz
Emergency supplies of water are absolutely a necessity, especially with kids. If your water supply is cut off for any reason, within an hour or two you'll be glad you've got those gallons on hand, believe me!

If you live in an area prone to tornados or any other storm which is accompanied by high winds, don't just secure patio furniture-- secure anything you can think of which can become a projectile missile--bird feeders, hanging flower baskets, etc. Go into your yard on a breezy day and make a list of anything you see swaying. A tornado can create winds of up to 300 miles an hour--a bird feeder, even a cheap little plastic one, travelling at that speed becomes a funny shaped bullet.

Do not waste time opening windows during a tornado warning. Your house will not explode, as was once widely believed.

Most importantly, have a plan for any emergency you may face: Blizzard, fire, hurricane, tornado, flood. If you don't actually practice a bit, at least write down what you know has to get done. Keep the list in a ziplock bag taped to an emergency-use only flashlight. Keep calm! If you begin freaking out, your kids will follow suit, increasing the danger of the situation.

I have been through two tornados in my 35 years, one major flood, and countless blizzards in which power was lost for more than 24 hours. Remaining calm, being prepared and having a plan, that's what gets you through.

14 posted on 07/08/2005 6:55:16 AM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: grellis

Hubby's response to me is always: we have a 16' x 32' swimming pool full of water in the back yard and 4 toilets from who's tanks we could drink water. :o)


15 posted on 07/08/2005 7:00:15 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: GatorGirl

With the hurricane season so active, so early you're right.

I live on the northeastern coast of VA and can be susceptible to 'canes - but was pretty lucky last year, they seemed to skirt west of us and then head to the Atlantic north of us.......but I have no intentions of playing with fate.

How you deal with the storms with the kids is very good advice for anyone, and any type of storms.

I really and truly pray this is not a repeat of last year for you Folks in Florida.


16 posted on 07/08/2005 7:02:54 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: grellis

And laughing a lot!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 07/08/2005 7:04:54 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: StarCMC

Well then, if you're not going to buy extra water, you're going to need alot of bleach if you're going to drink THAT! ;-)

My pool usually contains the large patio table. We throw it in there instead of bringing it in if space is at a premium in the house. The garage is too far to lug that thing into there.


18 posted on 07/08/2005 7:09:09 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: StarCMC
You might want to ask him what he'll do when diahhrea sets in three hours later. Having a supply of clean drinking water is an absolute must, especially with kids. An adult can stomach sub-par drinking water when necessary--kids cannot. Just a few mouthfuls of sub-par water can give some kids "the runs"--increasing the need for clean fluids.

I don't know about anyone else, but I can recall several times from my childhood (and it has happened a few times with my own kids) when I came down with really, truly nasty diahhrea after spending a day at the beach. One doesn't need to drink an 8-ounce glass of impure water to become sick--a few mouthfuls does the trick quite well. Kids just don't handle microbes as well as adults do.

19 posted on 07/08/2005 7:16:46 AM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: GatorGirl
We throw it in there instead of bringing it in if space is at a premium in the house.

DANG! That's clever!

20 posted on 07/08/2005 7:18:53 AM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: grellis

Gee, thanks!

However, it's not an original idea. Lots of folks around here do it. You feel kind of lazy dumping your patio furniture into the pool instead of carrying it into the house or garage, but it's a chore to get it out.

The winds can't pick it up when it's under water, so it works!


21 posted on 07/08/2005 7:21:58 AM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: grellis

His point is that if the house has collapsed on top of the saved water, what's the point. Sheesh!! Sorry I brought it up.


22 posted on 07/08/2005 7:31:17 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Gabz

On one occasion, we went a week without power... it was depressing! I ended up going out of town with our little one. My neighborhood was among the very last to get power restored, so frustrating to pass all these lit up areas, then home into the darkness (and cold water!). Since then we've acquired a generator, so Murphy's Law suggests we will never lose power again. True to form, power went out for a few hours recently, and my husband got concerned about the refrigerator (after about five hours) so started hooking up the generator. Sure enough, soon as he started to get it out, the power came back on!


23 posted on 07/08/2005 8:04:51 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: GraceCoolidge

Isn't that always the way?

When Isabel was headed in this direction we had prepared for all eventuallities, including FReeping with no power.........well we thought we had prepared for everything. The phone lines went out........so no FReeping, even though we never lost power :(


24 posted on 07/08/2005 8:15:33 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: StarCMC

I get it now--I wasn't trying to take you to task.


25 posted on 07/08/2005 9:54:38 AM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: B4Ranch

Great suggestions!


26 posted on 07/08/2005 9:57:32 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (9-11 & London: Don't forget your sneer quotes when you refer to the "religion of peace")
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To: grellis

Hubby was blessed with extreme worry wart parent who I refuse to tell about anything slightly negative going on because they jump to the worst possible conslusion about everything. (Got a cold? You're dying of pneumonia!! Either that or mono!) SO hubby and I generally are rebellious about that kind of stuff and I'm sure that's his motivation for saying drink out of the pool, etc.

No offense taken.


27 posted on 07/08/2005 10:04:28 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarCMC
Hubby was blessed with extreme worry wart parent...

My mother was famous for her "freak accident" stories... did anyone else get those? You know, the people who got grievously injured putting their head out the car window, choking on food, or doing anything you happened to be contemplating or doing at that very moment. It was suspicious because it never happened to anyone she knew personally; it was always her sister's driving instructor's daughter or the neighbor's in-law or something. I think either she hung around emergency rooms or she invented the urban legend.

28 posted on 07/08/2005 10:13:29 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: GraceCoolidge

ROFL!!! Are you related to hubby?? He he he!!!

Really though, there are tall tales on my side as well. One of the most famous: My mom's great uncle was a wart looker. He could make your wart disappear just by looking at is.

And then there's the story about my Great Aunt who had a baby born with Downs. While she was pregnant, there was apparently a horrendous small plane crash in their field and she and Great Unc went to check on the pilot/inhabitants of the plane. She had nightmares because of what she saw, and then my cousin was born with sort of gnarled hands, and Downs. My family believes it's because of the nightmares. I'm not so sure I totally blow that one off though. The mind is a terribly powerful thing.


29 posted on 07/08/2005 10:18:22 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Gabz; All
...and don't forget to store plenty of toilet paper! Not kidding- think of substitutes...

While seemingly off-topic, there is a lot of information here if you use all the links within links:

-Terror Tips--

Everything from NBC warfare to storms & quakes can be accounted for there.

Funny you should mention power-- I'm in the middle of building a 10,000 watt standby generator for hurricane season here. My wife- the lovely Emily- simply refuses to evacuate ( for a variety of fairly sensible reasons ) and this old house is almost unfit for habitation without some electric power, so I'm rebuilding and old, defunct welder chassis with a new generator head. One criteria for a plant is that has to be easy starting ( electric start ) and simple to use, which the welder's engine end was when it was in service.

And naturally, like any home manufacturing project, everything is running behind schedule- wrong parts shipped, parts missing, the lathe I use for turning down the old armature shaft died two days ago, and I just got it swung out enough from the shop's back wall to gain access to the electric panel, where I think ( hope! ) the fault lies. I do have a much smaller metal lathe that- in a pinch- can turn the shaft, one tiny pass at a time.

Once that is done, a keyway is cut in the shaft, a subchassis of angle iron welded to hold engine & generator, the rotating assemblies mated via a flexible coupling, another subchassis for the generator welded up and joined to the engine subchassis- then we test her and see if we have a practical powerplant.

30 posted on 07/08/2005 11:20:57 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe
Holy cow! Between my hubby and myself, we can change batteries. You know--AAs, AAAs, even 9 volts!
31 posted on 07/08/2005 12:07:21 PM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: alwaysconservative

I pulled that list off the web. I would add
candles or kerosene lamps
Rubber boots and raincoat
If you have a big tree in the yard that looks like it might topple, tie it to another tree to make it fall sideways instead of on the house.
Invite any older single people in the neighborhood to stay with you while the storm passes over. Be sure to get their meds!
Protect livestock from direct wind even if it means herding them into an adjoining forest. They'll be glad to come back to their pastures when the storm is over.
Gather together all the real important papers and put them in a plastic bag, then inside a suitcase or backpack.
Keep a firearm handy for the looters and other sick scum.


32 posted on 07/08/2005 12:19:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Gabz; All
http://www.april31974.com/

Wish I could remember how to set up an actual link. This website is dedicated to the tornado outbreak of April 3-4, 1974. The storm system responsible stretched from Ontario, Canada, all the way south to Alabama and Mississippi. I can't remember its westernmost edge, but the system remained intact right through to the Atlantic coast. Over 300 people died in the outbreak; more than 50% of the town of Xenia, Ohio, was destroyed. If you have never seen footage or photos of what happened to Xenia, take a look. Absolutely devastating. I was with my family in Windsor, Ontario, when the storm struck. We lived in suburban Detroit back then and had taken a day trip to an outdoor fair in Windsor. I was five years old--this was 30 years ago--and I will remember every moment of that storm for the rest of my life. As bad as you may think a tornado is, it is worse. I shudder to think what an F5 would be like.

I do not get hysterical when the alarms go off here, as they frequently do during tornado season. Freaking out accomplishes nothing, it would just terrify my kids. They are growing up with a very healthy sense of how destructive and deadly nature can be, and how important it is to react to warnings calmly and quickly.

BTW--8 died in the Windsor tornado. At least two of the fatalities were at the park where we were.

33 posted on 07/08/2005 12:33:04 PM PDT by grellis (Hard issues curd little might in ironwood.)
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To: Gabz; All

Just wanted to let everyone know that I started up a Freeper Kitchen at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1439671/posts. I would have put it in chat myself, but I don't know how. Spread the word. I could also use some tips on the ping list thing Gabz. Thanks


34 posted on 07/09/2005 7:30:14 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

Morning friend - I'm sorry, but, your link isn't working...........


35 posted on 07/09/2005 7:40:53 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: grellis
Holy cow! Between my hubby and myself, we can change batteries. You know--AAs, AAAs, even 9 volts!

Change from what? ;o>

36 posted on 07/09/2005 7:47:32 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. Frederick Douglass)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Hi..I would love to be on your ping list for the recipe thread if you start one. Thanks!


37 posted on 07/09/2005 10:45:33 AM PDT by DUDLEY
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