Posted on 07/19/2005 11:02:47 AM PDT by faithincowboys
If as it appears Bush will nominate a moderate named Edith Clement to the Court, will the Right bolt from the GOP in next years midterms? Bush, someone I have been a big fan of, is turning out to be a heck of a disappoinment. He hasn't controlled the borders and apparently only used the promise to appoint "strict constructionists" as a cynical ploy to get re-elected. Bush, like his father before him, is proving to be a huge demoralizer for the Right.
I like cheese.
Welcome to the party, Victor!
From what I heard, she would be a solid pick. Conservative, strict constructivist (think Scalia), member of the Federalist Society, and so on. Chill, dude.
Want to outline why she is a 'moderate'?
Did he call you and reveal his pick? Then stop whining.
This is the first i've heard she is a moderate
Ridiculous statement, as nothing has happened yet. You are like the kid whining on Christmas Eve about his presents he hasn't opened. Relax.
We'll soon find out for sure whether or not we got duped by all those folks who said choose GWB for conservative justices, and put up with his socialist domestic agenda and anti-nationalist immigration policy.
I can tell how much I will like this judge by how much the left yells and screams. If the left goes ballistic then I know it is a good pick.
get a grip or buy a clue!
What's with all of this speculation of revolt? He hasn't made the nomination yet. He hasn't allowed speculation. He hasn't even hinted to reporters. The decision is his alone. If he changes his mind (whatever it currently is), it is his decision alone to make.
Why don't we wait and see what he does tonight. He has made promises, let's let him do the job we elected him to do...
Same here, she appears to be pretty conservative. No use speculating, until we here the news from the President himself.
If beings from another planet land in Washington DC and are allowed to stay, are mega-super-duper-REALLY-Conservatives going to bolt from the party because of Bush's soft stance on immigration?
She got a unanimous vote from the Senate at a time when the Senate left was hellbent to nuke any conservative put before them.
Where are her solid constructionist credentials? That's what I want outlined for me.
I am not entirely certain that Edith Clement is a "moderate" as you say.
My post says if she is the pick which seems very likely this is what it means. she's old anyway. Already 57. This is another instance where defeat was grasped from the jaws of victory.
She's an appellate judge who, as such, must follow Supreme Court precedent. But on the Supreme Court, she can change wrongly decided precedent.
Well, aren't media sources on the Left and Right saying she's the one?
How old are you 12? 57 is quite young she could be on the court for 20 years or more. You have no proof about her being a liberal or a moderate, yet you go on and on.
Absolutely - you got that right!
I don't have a good feeling at all about Pres. Bush on this..... ever since O'Conner's retirement announcement, Bush has been backpedaling on his campaign pledge, and the only group that he has chosen to publicly berate and chastise, is the conservative majority base that elected and re-elected him. I hope I'm wrong.... but conservatives have been on the short end of stick in every legislative or judicial battle ever since the Nov 2, 2004 election. Bush is not a principled conservative, he's at best a closet moderate who's more interested in appeasing the Rino's & the RATS!
If Bush betrays us tonight with his SCOTUS nominee by announcing pro-abortionist Edith Clement (ie where in the constitution is there a statement about the guarantee to privacy insuring the right to abortion ??? If that isn't judicial activism, then I don't know what would ), then conservatives ought to withhold their support en masse from the Republican Party.... I know I will!
They went ballistic over Souter too. It looks like to me that Bush is a New Englander. I think it's likely that Bush Sr. nominated Souter knowing full well that he was a center lefter. Like father like Son. Co-opting the majesty of Ronald Reagan to get elected and then blinking in every confrontation with the hard Left-- not out of expediency alone... out of political expediency and because he is a conservative in rhetoric only.
one thing that just completely irks me is the fact that no single news orginaization will use the term originalist. We need to know if she is an originalist! not just a conservative.
Were they in the room when he made the decision, no. Did he tell them anything today or yesterday, no. Don't have your chain yanked by the MSM, they want you to be upset.
Thank God for the "If Bush does xxxxx, I'm out of the republican party for good. . ." threads. They make me laugh!
I like to use tenderizer on my oatmeal.
If she leaves like O'Conner has(is O'Conner 70?) she'll have a bleeping 13 years on the court. Big whoop!!!
Defend the moderate position you whine about? Cite her opinions and case law that I know you've read and studied to come up with that conclusion so quickly.
wine with your cheese?
I'll bet she is in great physical shape for 57!
Yeah, sure you have.
"If Bush betrays us tonight with his SCOTUS nominee by announcing pro-abortionist Edith Clement (ie where in the constitution is there a statement about the guarantee to privacy insuring the right to abortion ???"
Show us the proof. If not you will be zotted.
just wondering if we really lost the election, is Chuck Schumer the Majority Leader? Is George Bush the public face for the Kerry administration? Why are we caving??
Well, I voted for him twice, went to phone banks and got in a million scrapes with Lefty friends for him. So spare me...
Well, I voted for him twice, went to phone banks and got in a million scrapes with Lefty friends for him. So spare me...
Well, I voted for him twice, went to phone banks and got in a million scrapes with Lefty friends for him. So spare me...
Well, I voted for him twice, went to phone banks and got in a million scrapes with Lefty friends for him. So spare me...
maybe bush really is trying to change the climate in D.C. Only problem is, it'll be one sided and short lived.
OK whatever. I'm sure nothing will happen in 13 years that will be of any consequence. I guess all the big court decisions are scheduled to happen beginning 14 years from now. I'm going to mark my calendar now.
The fact that he/she sees this as the 'FINAL' betrayal just shows that the person is a wingnut. Ignore them.
And where in Edith's statements has she said that in the constitution there's a statement about the guarantee to privacy insuring the right to abortion? She didn't say it and you're willfully misinterpreting what she did say.
She said she believes that the right to privacy is in the constitution.
She said the Supreme Court believes that this insures the right to an abortion. Do you see the difference?
Well, all news reports are saying that she said that Abortion is settled law. I am not someone who is a big Pro-Lifer by any means, but I believe in delivering on promises. I believe you deliver when millions have delivered for you. His party is in charge of the Congress, why in the Hell can't he deliver.
I have to admit I don't know anything about her.
At least we don't get Justice Howard Stern!
I tend to agree with you, but allow me to point out that the left always goes to Code Red (appropriately) standing for maximum outrage, no matter what Bush does. I don't think their reaction is a barometer anymore, since their main point is to block and frustrate whatever Bush does.
Why? Who did Bush appoint? You mean I've wasted all this time waiting for 9:00 ???? I could have break dancing!!
And at this point in time, abortion is settled law. She made that statement at the time of her nomination to the appeals court, and IN THE CONTEXT OF HER ROLE that was exactly right. Now you may not like the fact that she didn't follow that by giving her personal opinion of whether it should be settled law, but that's a different issue.
But she very pointedly did distinguish between her opinion and the supremes' opinions during the nomination process. To me that's a signal of a great mind at work.
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