Skip to comments.Smoking among our soldiers
Posted on 07/20/2005 11:12:03 PM PDT by The Other Harry
I have been concerned that so many of our soldiers seem to smoke. This includes the woman at the Abu Gaibe (sp?) imprisonment camp.
Don't you think that it would be better if this were restricted, at least to when they they are not on duty?
That way, it would be be safer, both for them and for those around them.
tick, tick, tick, tick......
Leave them alone, they have enough to worry about.
They are adults and don't need a nanny to take care of them.
"That way, it would be be safer, both for them and for those around them."
USMC here. No... it would NOT be safer. ;)
Isn't it bad enough that they can't have a beer in some other countries. I know, you would be happy with that too.
Having a cig is a personal choice and you are against that. Go get a life in a library. Your a perfect fit.
Keep the smokes,
Get the women out.
Go to bed and call a shrink in the AM.
You forgot your /sarc tag.
> This is a joke, right...?
I'm sure you also buy into that garbage about "second hand smoke."
Going against the flow, I am sure I will get flamed but they do not need to be smoking on duty. Most of these young people are not going to die, thank God. They are going to come home and they don't need a full blown addiction to cigarettes. Most people are not allowed to smoke during work. It is a very unhealthy and dirty habit. They aren't allowed to drink on duty because they might face death or do other unseemly things. I agree that they are adults and if they want to smoke on their own time they are free to do that. The army should, though, be able to encourage good health habits whether it be hygiene, food preparation, hand washing, intelligent drinking habits, or not smoking or at least not heavily. That is not to say that it can run people lives when they are off duty but they certainly can teach and encourage healthy living habits. The army is about teaching discipline. Contrary to popular thought and continuous media hype nasty habits do not equal happiness. Being a slave to anything brings one's countenance down, diminishing self respect. If a soldier is heavily addicted to nicotine what happens if he is out in the field in a long, tough battle to the death? Do you think that the craving for nicotine and the mood and body changes that the need for nicotine brings will enhance his ability to concentrate on kill or be killed? I hope this is just a joke because I hope our soldiers are not being allowed to smoke continuously on duty with many or most doing so. Maybe our soldiers need more orientation toward living and not that they are going to die so live like the devil. Flame, flame away (my shield is up and my breastplate is on).
Better check the fat and sugar and carb and cholesterol of the food being served while your at it.
Exhaling a puff of wonderful cigar smoke as I read and laugh....
I think your vanity privileges need to be restricted.
I don't think you should be allowed to type without paragraph and line breaks. It's unhealthy.
Hey, I'm not on duty or at work. Are you allowed to smoke, eat continuously, drink alcohol, wear what ever you want, swear continuously or do any other bad habits or inappropriate things on your job or for that matter when you were on duty? Heavy smoking is a dirty, nasty, unhealthy habit and why should it be tolerated on a job or on duty? Since when should the army be anything goes or is it just smoking on duty that should have special clearance?
I could come up with something snappy but words just fail me right now.
I remember C-Rations with the 4 pack of Luckys or Pall Malls. I thought it was stupid for the military to be forced to take them out way back then.
The US military is not a bunch of monks on a mission to convert the world to the good life. They are average Americans far from home who are kicking in doors,fighting and stuck in FOBs 24/7. This is not the same as having a 9-5 job in Germany where you go "Home" (Barracks) every night.
No civilian understands the 24/7 concept of the military. Yeah, you can talk about it and think about it but to understand you have to live it. If smoking gives a soldier a bit of pleasure in a nasty world then I say let them go for it.
The military has regulated sex and drinking. Let the soldiers keep one or two vices.
And yes, I am a non-smoker.
Rather a broad statement. Be specific please. Explain where you are coming from.
FWIW, as much as I dislike the idea of folks smoking, a war zone is not what I'd call a good place to deprive someone of their nictotine fix :)
If you took coffee away from our military personal, our military would shutdown. Cigarettes, surely you jest. It goes along with the coffee.
Think about this. I have yet to see at least any naval bases that didn't have either a McDonalds and or a Burger King on them. Hell, Gauntanamo has several of both. Health experts have deemed fast food unhealthy. Should we decide what are soldiers should eat too.
While Dementia cannot be cured, 24 hour psychiatric supervision may deny you access to a keyboard.
I hate to break it to you flower ... that's not a breastplate, it's either a bra or a manzier ... the kind worn by a nanny
When you get the thousand yard stare off the faces of our troops that is when YOU will have any say about whether or not a GI can light up a friggin cigarette.
Until then just be damn glad that they do still have both hands to light up a smoke with.
Why don't you just have this goddam thread removed before you piss off all the Vets on FR!
Damn, Harry, just yesterday I complimented on what I thought was your newfound sobriety & lucidity. Now you've gone & blown it.
You want to strip FREEDOMS from the very people who VOLUNTEER to do the dirty work of protecting our FREEDOMS? These people in our military have a very difficult & stressful job. They are often times thousands of miles away from home with very limited contact with the outside world.
It's often weeks after the fact that they know the results of the World Series. They see people who just that morning were their best friends being hauled off screaming, bloody and having lost 30% of their weight because their legs are in a separate bag if they are recoverable at all.
Do you really think it's fair of some high and mighty righteous jerk sitting behind a computer monitor in the safety & comfort of their living room to deny a simple pleasure of a cigarette to the poor kid in a trench or bonbed out candy store or overnighting in a mountain pass snow cave?
BTW, it's 114 degrees in Baghdad, right now.
Those who would deny cigs to our troops are mean. I can't beleive a conservative would propose such crap.
Or Kim Campbell: http://www.warbirdforum.com/chick.htm
Very well said. I wanted to respond, but you said it better than I could have. Thank you.
I erased half of what I really wanted to say so I didn't lose posting priveleges.
I'm torn here. On one hand, I'd like to see the uncensored version of your post. On the other hand, I wouldn't want you to be banned.
No one else shares my fondness for Schnappi. ;-)
No kidding, I was just trying to pull that up to show a co worker.
The editing scraps from my previous post are not pretty. You do not want to see them.
Freepmail the scraps to me. :-)
Can't. They are just deleted electrons. BTW, where do the deleted letters go when you delete them?
You have obviously never served your country. When you don the BDU's your opinion about this subject will matter. Until then STFU and enjoy the freedoms that smokers like me have presented to you.
I believe they're in some sort of giant cosmic recycle bin, waiting to be permanently wiped from hard drives our lives.
(LOL Ok, that was the best I could do under pressure.)
Dude! Smoking has always been a part of the military. After getting shot the first thing a soldier wants is his Momma and a smoke.
I have an even better idea, in the interest of the health of our soldiers, let's withdraw them from all dangerous situations.
LOL You're right. You didn't.
I occasionally find myself suffering from posting performance anxiety. The pressure was self-inflicted. ;-)
They have meds for that. I know.