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ZOT! Army Bulling
http://www.amazon.com ^ | 07th Aug 05 | Harry Enfield

Posted on 08/07/2005 12:56:00 PM PDT by shazzer

I recently read a great book called Amongst The Marines by Steven Preece. I bought a few from the Amazon.com website but this is the one that stood out. Its a perfect example of bullying amongst the military ranks and what this type of behaviour turns people into.


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1 posted on 08/07/2005 12:56:00 PM PDT by shazzer
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To: shazzer

you joined to post a book review?


2 posted on 08/07/2005 12:57:06 PM PDT by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: shazzer; Darksheare; MeekOneGOP

What does that type of behaviour lead to?


3 posted on 08/07/2005 12:57:36 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: visualops
What does that type of behaviour lead to?

Winning wars?

4 posted on 08/07/2005 12:58:20 PM PDT by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: shazzer


WTF? You sign on today to post that...what exactly does the military do kiddo? Sell girl scout cookies? Get a clue junior.

The military is a volunteer service...there's no forced conscription, no draft, no one forcing you to go...but once in...the military does it's job to harden individual soldiers of combat, which is not strolling down the street into a starbucks to buy a latte kiddo.

Administrator, please look carefully at this current newbie.

Thanks!


5 posted on 08/07/2005 12:59:13 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: shazzer
SSSnifff....I smell a storm a comin'. Ozone levels are increasing.

/jasper

6 posted on 08/07/2005 12:59:15 PM PDT by Jasper ( Craigellachie, Stand Fast!)
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To: shazzer

- just joined today
- recommending book that slams a branch of our armed forces
- can't spell

I'm calling it - DUmmy troll.


7 posted on 08/07/2005 1:00:27 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: shazzer

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?


8 posted on 08/07/2005 1:01:01 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: KJacob

LOL yep.
"Bulling" is something new though.
That may have to do with kitties and Vikings.
Newbie here fails to mention this book is about the Royal Marines.


9 posted on 08/07/2005 1:01:04 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: KJacob


It's someone with an "anti-US" military agenda...he posted in the wrong forum for that tripe.


10 posted on 08/07/2005 1:01:16 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: shazzer

Maybe you should research fights and drinking problems that are happening in college frat houses. I've heard their hazing rituals are responsible for many civilian deaths.


11 posted on 08/07/2005 1:02:08 PM PDT by aaronbeth (Our freedom was won from the barrel of a gun.)
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To: Avenger

The book is about the Royal Marines. Very misleading thread title.


12 posted on 08/07/2005 1:02:39 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: shazzer

Who is Harry Enfield?


13 posted on 08/07/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: visualops

Ouch. Sorry guys. I was just interested in opinion.


14 posted on 08/07/2005 1:05:08 PM PDT by shazzer
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To: shazzer

Ok, military guys drink and fight. Woo hoo...hot news!


15 posted on 08/07/2005 1:06:09 PM PDT by aaronbeth (Our freedom was won from the barrel of a gun.)
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To: shazzer
I was just interested in opinion.

What's yours?

16 posted on 08/07/2005 1:08:24 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: shazzer

The opinion seems to be that you are a troll. Anyways, I doubt anyone here has read that book. So why not give us your thoughts? Perhaps you could describe why you think it's a great book?


17 posted on 08/07/2005 1:09:37 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: shazzer

Learn how to spell, troll.


18 posted on 08/07/2005 1:10:59 PM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (So? People in Hell want ice water.)
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To: shazzer

Book Description
Amongst the Marines is Steven Preece's first-hand account of life as an elite Royal Marine Commando. He delivers a direct and unflinching depiction of the excessive and often shocking lifestyle of the Marines and explains the impact this had on his own personality and behaviour. Preece fulfilled his childhood ambition by earning the coveted Green Beret from the Commando Training Centre at Lympstone when he was 18. He was unaware at that time of the brutal rite of passage that awaited him and all the other 'pieces of skin' (new recruits) at his first Marine commando unit. Violence in the Marines, as Steven discovered, was not limited to the battlefield but a continual part of a pervasive culture of bullying and aggression. It did not take long for Preece to be accepted into this culture and to adopt it as his own. His personality changed beyond recognition - from friendly and approachable to hard and unforgiving - as he embraced the customs and values of the 45 Commando Unit. On duty he was fit, committed and loyal, while off duty he displayed a mammoth capacity for drinking, fighting and, when the drink had run out, womanising. On home leave, Steven found it increasingly hard to adapt to civilian life. His drinking sessions in local pubs frequently ended in fights with the locals and even in violence against members of his own family. Preece earned a reputation amongst his fellow Marines for pranks and dangerous behaviour, and his eagerness to accept any challenges from other commandos eventually led him to be court-martialled. True to form, however, Preece was finally acquitted by the court. 'Amongst the Marines' is an intimate expose of the culture of the Marines, from foul practical jokes and rough justice to the off-duty orgies of drink, sex and violence. It is a no-hold-barred account of the many shocking incidents Preece witnessed and participated in, from his first day as a new recruit to his exit from the Marines with his reputation intact and his scores settled once and for all.


19 posted on 08/07/2005 1:11:54 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: andyandval

"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?"

LOL, my kid was so impressed with me, there is some new song, "Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo" I explained to her what it meant. She thought I was a genius.


20 posted on 08/07/2005 1:12:42 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: shazzer

You're right, people in the military engage in a lot of bulling. Kind of like fishermen do!

Instead of "I once had a trout that was bigger than my arm!", it's more along the lines of "you think your drill instructor was bad????"


21 posted on 08/07/2005 1:15:04 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: shazzer
Not zotted yet?

 

22 posted on 08/07/2005 1:15:31 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: shazzer
" earned a reputation amongst his fellow Marines for pranks and dangerous behaviour, and his eagerness to accept any challenges from other commandos eventually led him to be court-martialled. "

If the problem were indigenous to the Marines rather than the author, most would have been court-martialed

23 posted on 08/07/2005 1:16:07 PM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: shazzer; MeekOneGOP; MikeinIraq; Darksheare

Anybody....?


24 posted on 08/07/2005 1:17:52 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: shazzer
Oh, I agree. The military shouldn't be made up of people capable of bullying.

I'd MUCH prefer a military made up of sensitive males (and females of course) who are just nice people. In fact, they shouldn't even have guns, and certainly not the best guns--that's SO unfair, isn't it?

Please, hit the autopilot so your spaceship can return to Earth. You're going to find the same mix of people in the military as in real life, except these "bullies" are the ones defending your right to bitch about them.

25 posted on 08/07/2005 1:18:54 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them."-Wm. Clayton)
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To: jocon307

:-)


26 posted on 08/07/2005 1:19:11 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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To: shazzer

IBTZ?


27 posted on 08/07/2005 1:42:04 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: shazzer
1) Why would you say Army if the book is about the Marines?

2) What is Bulling? I've ridden bulls, roped bulls, cut bulls and know BS but I'm not sure about bulling.

3) If anything basic training today is for wimps. Our DI's would knock the hell out of you, chew on your butt, and have you run and do push ups until you dropped. They saved a lot of lives.

28 posted on 08/07/2005 1:49:53 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (I'm a Conservative but will not support evil just because it's "the law.")
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To: shazzer

Just blame the spelling errors on your limp wrists. They can make typing incredibly difficult.


29 posted on 08/07/2005 1:51:46 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: shazzer

and NOW they ZOT him! First 30 in before the ZOT ..... well done!


30 posted on 08/07/2005 1:53:55 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (I'm a Conservative but will not support evil just because it's "the law.")
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To: elfman2
Good Lord this book is about Royal Marine's. They are cream of the crop when the military comes to mind.

Their boot camp is something like 6 months long.

31 posted on 08/07/2005 1:55:37 PM PDT by mware (Now we know why the NYT didn't have time to cover AIR AMERIKA)
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To: shazzer
from foul practical jokes and rough justice to the off-duty orgies of drink, sex and violence.

Sounds like the life of an average DNC staffer.
32 posted on 08/07/2005 2:39:14 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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33 posted on 08/07/2005 5:55:22 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I want a Justice on the SCOTUS that INTTERPUTS law, not make laws.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Heehee, thought I was the only one who knew that website...lots of other appropriate ones there, too.


34 posted on 08/07/2005 6:03:19 PM PDT by decal ("The French should stick to kisses, toast and fries.")
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To: decal

Just stole that from another DU troll ZOT thread.....


35 posted on 08/07/2005 6:05:59 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I want a Justice on the SCOTUS that INTTERPUTS law, not make laws.)
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To: visualops; shazzer; MeekOneGOP

It leads to psychosis, pranks, beating trolls into pulp, and EATING THEIR SOULS!!!
*sounds of horrific devourment of troll souls*


36 posted on 08/07/2005 7:50:44 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Just because I have a paper heart, doesn't mean tearing it is okay." -The man with the candy face)
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To: shazzer

Shazzer’s out for a Sunday stroll
Should’ve stayed in a dark dank hole
Please hit “spell check”
Before posting your dreck
This won’t hurt, it’s only a ZOT, you troll


37 posted on 08/08/2005 10:51:37 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: shazzer
I CURSE YOUR MUSTACHE !!!


38 posted on 08/08/2005 11:50:41 AM PDT by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: Darksheare; MikeinIraq

Fire up the pavers.


39 posted on 08/08/2005 12:13:20 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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40 posted on 08/08/2005 12:14:33 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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41 posted on 08/08/2005 12:23:00 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: shazzer

Click video to see trolls getting their zots (1.7MB)

42 posted on 08/08/2005 12:27:07 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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You want a piece of this sucker!


43 posted on 08/08/2005 5:28:53 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: shazzer
May I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560238747/qid=1123608601/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6520760-2512053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

45 posted on 08/09/2005 10:30:22 AM PDT by Clemenza (Intelligent Design Isn't Very Intelligent)
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To: boshman; timpad; TBarnett34; MeekOneGOP; Old Sarge; PetroniDE; Lady Jag; mhking; glock rocks; ...
Joined today to tell us that? Explain to this retiree what you mean.
btw...Do you like kitties?


47 posted on 08/09/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: boshman
Do you like Gorrillas?

As in the 58 FS?


49 posted on 08/09/2005 10:51:53 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: boshman

"Shazzer was shot down in flames in what appears to be an unfair debate."

Shazzer was a repeat troll.
Shazzer was shot down because he has been here before.


50 posted on 08/09/2005 11:16:29 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Just because I have a paper heart, doesn't mean tearing it is okay." -The man with the candy face)
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