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Should Linux sue SCO?
Groklaw ^ | 2005-08-08 | PJ

Posted on 08/09/2005 8:32:02 PM PDT by N3WBI3

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To: Bulwark

You do seem somewhat reasonable when compared to the present fanatics. You should do more to distinguish yourself, though, shouldn't take much if you try.


41 posted on 08/11/2005 5:19:17 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
do you care sco is violating us copyright law

IF they're violating anything, it's the GPL license written by that commie Richard Stallman. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, other than defend him and his cult.

42 posted on 08/11/2005 5:22:11 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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IF they're violating anything, it's the GPL license written by that commie Richard Stallman. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, other than defend him and his cult.

The GPL is only a license, the code itself was under copyright as was "the book of webmin". If the GPL is not a valid license what right did SCO have to take works written and copyrighted by someone else? According to them and you there is no legitimate license (GPL) for them to use so I ask again..

Do you care that SCO took copyrighted works of others without permission and put it into their product

43 posted on 08/11/2005 5:49:13 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle
As usual, you're the liar, even though you accuse me of it. OpenSuse isn't the same as Suse Pro, minus support, despite your bogus claim to the contrary.

That's mighty big talk from a known liar.

Once the support options are removed, the only differences between the two are some proprietary software packages that can't be redistributed, such as Adobe Acrobat, some proprietary fonts, the Netscape browser and such.

Functionally, there is no difference.

So take your silly, misinformed opinion and stick it.

44 posted on 08/11/2005 7:12:41 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: N3WBI3
Of course he doesn't care. Darl McBride could rape little boys on the front lawn of the courthouse and GE would be cheering him on, provided that he keeps up his attempts to damage Linux.

GE reminds me ever so much of the Clintonoids who looked the other way at criminal activity provided that they got what they wanted.

Bill Gates personally funds forced abortions and sterlizations, gun-grabbing organizations and socialist candidates.

He has continuously defended Microsoft's unethical business practices, including theft, perjury, contempt of court and extortion.

Why would a little thing like a copyright violation bother him?

45 posted on 08/11/2005 7:18:38 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Knitebane
The GPL says that it's perfectly ok to download a GPL'd product and use parts of it in your product, provided that your product is then placed under the GPL. SCO didn't place their product under the GPL so they are in violation of same.

Actually, that's not entirely true. You only have to place your product under the GPL if you use GPL'ed source in your source. If you just use a GPL'ed library, you do not have to provide source.
46 posted on 08/11/2005 7:55:00 AM PDT by Bulwark
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To: Bulwark

Careful, he'll soon be calling you a liar too, and equating you with perverted things such as raping little boys like he just did me. Probably should expect it, actually, since he does such things all the time...


47 posted on 08/11/2005 10:18:05 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bulwark
Check the article.

Was kernel source code reused in the UnixWare kernel, as one anonymous source claimed to eWeek's Peter Galli long ago?

While there is no question that SCO shipped the Linux kernel binary, there is also some question as to whether Linux binary code was used in the UnixWare kernel.

And that's not linking, that's an out and out violation of the GPL.

48 posted on 08/11/2005 9:42:30 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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Careful, he'll soon be calling you a liar too, and equating you with perverted things such as raping little boys like he just did me. Probably should expect it, actually, since he does such things all the time...

No, I'll only call him a liar after he repeats the same debunked FUD over and over again after having been corrected and pointed to factual links repeatedly.

As for your perversions, well, since you emulate left-wing nutjobs in so many other respects, it's probably safe to assume those aspects of a moonbat are yours too.

49 posted on 08/11/2005 9:45:10 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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Oh, and one more time, since your lefty selective attention span seems to be popping up again, I'll repeat N3WBI3's question to you...

Do you care that SCO took copyrighted works of others without permission and put it into their product?

50 posted on 08/11/2005 9:48:49 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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Those "copyrighted works" as you referred to them were given away to the public at large to do with as they wish. If SCO packaged them up and gave them away to others as well I really don't see what your complaint is.

As for moonbat lefties, you're the one who worships Richard Stallman and the ground he walks on, so spare me the lecture. My position is obviously that of a strong capitalist.

http://www.stallman.org


51 posted on 08/12/2005 4:52:08 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Knitebane

Oh, I know... I was just refering to using GPL'ed code in general. There's no doubt SCO is guilty on this.


52 posted on 08/12/2005 7:14:57 AM PDT by Bulwark
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Do you care sco has been caught breaking US copyright once and now has damning evidence they have done it again?
53 posted on 08/12/2005 7:22:55 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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Those "copyrighted works" as you referred to them were given away to the public at large to do with as they wish.

Under a license the of the copyright owners choosing. But I guess unless hte IP owners is SCO or MS you dont care about their property rights..

54 posted on 08/12/2005 7:24:39 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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Naaa its not like were talking about SCO's IP here. Were talking about some lefty guy who put code into *yuck* linux. I mean if this was darls IP or Bill gates IP then its all on for the lawsuits....

BTW Knight did you see the latest suit under the DCMA (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68492,00.html) Thats right thank goodness this useful and well crafted law was put into place...

Than and the latest Software Patent suits (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68492,00.html) have to start to open peoples eyes into how bad the government attempt to regulate technology have ended up..

55 posted on 08/12/2005 7:34:42 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Bulwark
Care to guess how much a 100 user site license for Windows Server 2003 is?

Server 2003 enterprise (25 users) can be purchased for under a grand if you go to Pricegrabber. Five CAL packs are about $200, so that makes the total about $4000. About $40 a seat. The cost of two years of antivirus software.

Double that if you want SQL Server and Exchange.

56 posted on 08/12/2005 7:38:35 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: Knitebane
Bill Gates personally funds forced abortions and sterlizations, gun-grabbing organizations and socialist candidates.

Source Code?


57 posted on 08/12/2005 7:43:02 PM PDT by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Knitebane; Golden Eagle

Of course, it's your lot that invoked Microsoft and Bill Gates as the source of all evil. The "other" side of this discussion hasn't mentioned it on this thread. Not once.

For the record, I use open source where it's right for my customer. I've deployed more Linux as a Windows engineer than the UNIX guys have. I'm hardly part of the devotee crowd though; spooning with each other and whispering sweet nothings about how much Microsoft sucks.

So how about doing all of us a favor and drop the appeal to spite. Dazzle us with a brilliant dissertation of how OSS is good on it's own merits not just because it's not Microsoft - a company, by the way, that employs more Americans than every pay distribution combined.


58 posted on 08/12/2005 7:53:41 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: js1138

Clinets running 2000 pro do not need exchange cals..


59 posted on 08/12/2005 7:58:36 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Doohickey
Should have kept reading you would have seen GE goes into his usual *but stallmans a lefty*... I dont care too much what bill gates does with his money, nor does it really factor into what I am going to recommend for my company. It is mentioned because time and time gain people try to pin Linux to a political ideology..
60 posted on 08/12/2005 8:00:51 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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