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Diet: Considering nutrisystem, any recs welcome.
me SCC ^ | 8/17/05 | self

Posted on 08/17/2005 5:33:05 PM PDT by Dad was my hero

I have been contemplating once again dieting. I am 5' 9" and weigh about 220 lbs. Ideally I would like to get to 175 but would settle for 185.

I'm looking for advice on the Nutrisystem diet plan. Currently they are running a - buy 4 weeks get the 5th free. My concern is that they won't taste any better than the crap I can buy in the frozen food isle at the local grocery. They say their system keys on glycemic index so I would assume if I bought some of the South Beach frozen foods I'd be getting the same.

I'd like to know if anybody has tried it and their opinions.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: imfat; nutrisystem

1 posted on 08/17/2005 5:33:05 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Dad was my hero

If you are a man, do Atkins. Hard core - the right way - no excuses. If you are a woman, do South Beach, instead. It's slower, but seems to work better for women than Atkins, which they find too harsh. Nurtrisystem costs too much, and doesn't pay enough attention to carb control.


2 posted on 08/17/2005 5:36:32 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Feelings are not a tool of cognition, therefore they are not a criterion of morality." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Dad was my hero

go to www.thinplan.com. Developed at John Hopkins. I lost almost 100 pounds under my doctors supervision and kept it off almost 2 years now.


3 posted on 08/17/2005 5:39:53 PM PDT by bankwalker (You get what you believe.)
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To: Dad was my hero
I wouldn't go with any other 'formal' weight-loss program tahn Weight Watchers. Not that I'm big fan of theirs, either, but the ones like Jenny Craig and Nutrisystem, where you have to buy their foods are a rip-off. You can do much better, for a lot less money, on your own. Also, aerobic exercise is an absolute must of any weight-loss endeavor.

Good luck. I lost 95 pounds all on my own and it's the greatest feeling.

4 posted on 08/17/2005 5:40:50 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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My advice is to try Weight Watchers. You lose slower but it is more healthy. If you choose the "Flex Plan", you can eat anything you want as long as you stay within your "points" value. It is very easy to do and you have a variety of food and drinks to choose from. Go to the meetings and learn what others have learned and use what you want.


5 posted on 08/17/2005 5:42:12 PM PDT by SeaDragon
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To: Dad was my hero

Forget about "diet plans"
Just eat less than you use to eat, cut down sugar and feculents and walk a couple of miles per day.


6 posted on 08/17/2005 5:43:56 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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I have found a magazine that has a philosophy I love, "Fitness Rx." The Fitness Rx method is basically called the Mediteranean diet. Olive oil, fruits, vegetables, low-fat meats, whole grains, etc. I lost about 40 lbs with low-bad-carb (sugar, white bread, potatoes) and have kept it off for 1 1/2 years with Mediteranean and Martial Arts.


7 posted on 08/17/2005 5:44:19 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Dad was my hero
Go join Weightwatchers. I lost 25 pounds (which is about what you need to lose) and have kept it off. You can eat anything as long as you keep within the points system.

Atkins I lost on, but I couldn't stay on it, and after I tried to go back on Atkins, I didn't lose.

Weightwatchers is a normal diet. Example of my daily diet: Breakfast...2 slices of diet toast with light cream cheese and juice. Snack...celery and carrots with low-fat dip. Lunch...diet pizza from Smart Ones, Lean Cuisine, or Michelina Lean. Snack... a few pretzels and a Diet Coke. Supper....salad with low-fat dressing, green beans, half a baked potato with a smidge of butter and low fat sour cream and a barbecued chicken breast. Included with this is drinking 8 glasses of ice water.

I am serious; this is a good diet, and the meetings will get you inspired and give you recipes and helpful tips. Give it a try!!

8 posted on 08/17/2005 5:45:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Karl Rove is Plame-proof.)
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To: Dad was my hero
I've lost 45 lbs in the past year on Weight Watchers. They have a 40 record of being the most successful weight loss program around.

No special food to buy etc. They teach you how to eat in the real world. I can do this because I don't feel deprived at all. More compatible with life IMO. The meetings are key though, if you don't attend meetings you will not be as successful.

MKM

9 posted on 08/17/2005 5:46:05 PM PDT by mykdsmom (A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep)
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To: Dad was my hero

Talk to your doctor. One of the side effects of Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SRI) is reduction of appetite. If you find yourself eating when you're depressed, that's a big clue, and you can kill 2 birds with one stone cheaper than these diet plans.


10 posted on 08/17/2005 5:48:07 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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My experience: Nutrisystem food tastes good and they make big efforts to make it interesting. Their behavioral plan is very good. Given that I thought about almost nothing but my next meal, I found the thing relatively easy to follow for several months, but expensive. The expense comes from not only the food you buy from them, but also from the fresh fruits & vegetables they require you to eat.


11 posted on 08/17/2005 5:49:00 PM PDT by Marylander
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I would recommend the South Beach Diet. Cheesey name, but it really is a sensible, easy to do plan. After the first two weeks, you can eat most things except those made with white flour and sugars. It's not an all protein/no carb plan which makes it more livable. You can buy the book used online and check it out for yourself... less of a commitment than joining a program.

I wouldn't recommend Nutri-System or any plan that forces you to buy their food. I've done Weight Watchers after having babies and it works really well. Good luck!


12 posted on 08/17/2005 5:50:04 PM PDT by rampage8
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To: Dad was my hero
Anything plan that makes you buy their food is not going to keep the weight off.

Losing or gaining weight requires you to change your lifestyle. Otherwise you end up back where you were before. I recommend learning to cook, reading a couple of good books on nutrition and listening to your body. As you eat things note how you felt afterwords. Did you feel sleepy? Energized? Hungry?

Eat foods that are high in flavor so you are sated with less. Avoid white foods. White bread, white pasta and sugar. And exercise. A fifteen minute walk every day will do wonders.

All diets work in that if you follow them you will lose weight. But unless you want to be always gaining and losing weight you have to change the way you live.

13 posted on 08/17/2005 5:56:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When I walk into Sanctuary the band plays "Sweet Home Alabama")
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To: Dad was my hero
Most nutritionists say the best rate to lose weight is about 1 to 2 pounds a week. Think of how long it took to put on the weight. Thats about how long it will take to get off without the "rebound" effect. (losing, gaining, losing, gaining...)
You DO NOT NEED ANY DIET COMPANY. I can't make it any simpler, MORE CALORIES BURNED THAN CONSUMED, at least 6 days a week. Losing more than 40 pounds will take not just a change of diet but a change of LIFESTYLE. Eat smaller portions of fresher foods less often and excerxise. Eat less prepared meats(lunch meat) and prepared foods, they are loaded with sodium. Get some 2 - 5 pound weights and work with them while watching tv instead of just watching tv!
Walking at a brisk pace works for most everyone. Not hard on the joints if you are older and you don't have to get ready and drive anywhere to a club. Just walk out your front door and find a 2 mile loop in your neighborhood and meet your neighbors. 2 miles should take only 30 - 50 minutes of your day. It will take time and persistence but IT WILL WORK!!!! You just have to keep at it and don't give up.
MORE CALORIES OUT THAN IN. However you can accomplish that simple formula, you WILL lose weight.
14 posted on 08/17/2005 5:56:49 PM PDT by hophead (" Shi'ite happens..")
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To: Kevin OMalley

Do you have any experience with these? My doctor just put me on Lexapro (which is an SRI) for the purpose of helping me to lose weight. I do eat when I'm depressed & I hope this helps me. I've started walking too.


15 posted on 08/17/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on FreepTV. So I would prefer that people not base their decisions on anecdotal evidence but on solid years of training & medical research, that kind of thing.


16 posted on 08/17/2005 6:11:11 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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"So I would prefer that people not base their decisions on anecdotal evidence but on solid years of training & medical research, that kind of thing."

Eating the right amounts of fresher foods (not prepared packaged foods) and balancing the calorie in/out formula is as old and well documented as it gets. And it WILL work.


17 posted on 08/17/2005 6:21:06 PM PDT by hophead (" Shi'ite happens..")
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To: Kevin OMalley

I understand. I don't really like the idea of taking pills, especially for something related to my brain. I've been prescribed anti-depressants in the past, but have ended up taking myself off of them. I think I like being just a little bit crazy!

But seriously, losing weight is like quitting smoking - you just have to make up your mind you really want to do it & stick to it. Having said that it's easier said than done - I was able to quit smoking, but keeping weight off is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do.


18 posted on 08/17/2005 6:27:25 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Dad was my hero
ATKINS works!
And you can find it easily on the internet - How to do ATKINS

Its easy once you understand it. And you can eat really weel without having to buy "special" products. I'm down 85+ lbs in a year and a half. And I still drink beer.

Also it is very important to start a moderate excercise program. DO SOMETHING - CONSISTENTLY!

Good Luck There are a lot of people on FR with very positive ATKINS results and support. (and the usual bozos who bitch about everything)

19 posted on 08/17/2005 6:55:43 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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I'm on Nutrisystem now. I would go to weight watchers, but I have ZERO time for meetings and weigh ins, and our group here in town is not convieniently timed for me.

I've lost about 6-7 lbs in a month. Which is pretty good, I guess, since I seem to have zero time for exercise as well.

A friend of mine is a nurse and she said that their patients who go to WW keep the weight off longer after they lose it than the other diet programs.

I got downright skinny on Atkins, probably down to 109 or so (I'm 5'1 1/2"), but I can't lose weight that way anymore either, don't know why.

20 posted on 08/17/2005 7:05:03 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: Dad was my hero
Much to my amazement, I think the government did a great job with their website on nutrition and exercise, www.mypyramid.gov. Totally free (except to the taxpayers) it has great customizable charts and interactive features that allow you make your own program for diet and exercise.

I found the advice to be based on current science and presented in a practical way. For example, 30 minutes most days of exercise to maintain health, sixty to prevent getting fat as you age, sixty to ninety for weight loss. For food, basically make sure you get all needed nutrients from different food groups while taking in 500 calories a day less than you burn.

Not really what you asked about, but I thought you might find it helpful.

21 posted on 08/17/2005 7:06:13 PM PDT by SupplySider
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Forgot to mention that the Nutrisystem food is actually pretty good, but I am hungry a lot. They have a pancake mix that makes two large pancakes and they are really delicious -- I use sugarfree syrup. Just be warned that "dessert" is a loosely used term -- some of their desserts are chips -- sort of like flavored rice cakes -- better than rice cakes, but, if you're expecting chocolate everday like the television ad suggests, you have to specify that's what you want.


22 posted on 08/17/2005 7:09:17 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: Khurkris
I'm with you. Atkins works. Just don't eat bread, potatos, rice and pasta....you'll be amazed how much fat you begin to burn just sitting around doing nothing. I lost 50lbs and my doctor could not believe the improvement in my blood work.

It was also mentioned that packaged foods were another culprit...so true. Full of sugar, fillers, and nothing nutritious. Eat fresh foods! If you like sweat....exercise. If not, on Atkins you'll still lose anyway....in spite of yourself.
23 posted on 08/17/2005 8:26:40 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Dad was my hero

I've lost 47 lbs by eating between 1200-1500 calories a day, with restricted carbs (seldom more than 100 cals of a carby food at a time, except at dinner time, and then about 200), with lean meats, lots of veggies, salmon at least twice a week, non-fat yogurt, at least 1 cup's worth every day, small amounts of walnuts, a good bit of soy. Journal everything down, see what foods might trigger the munchies, and avoid them. Be honest. It's a lot like the South Beach diet. I tweak it from time to time, suplement with calcium and a multivitamin and several herbal supplements. I walk a lot.


24 posted on 08/17/2005 8:35:13 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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I appreciate all your advice. I posted this last night and then went to bed, didn't expect so many replies. Things I didn't include were: I am already active, run 3 to 5 miles a day but since turning 50 and have had a couple illnesses I have gained the weight. I find it comes on quickly for me when I'm not active. I'm an RN and watch what others eat and I don't find my intake or portions out of line with what I see others of all weights eating. I never up size meals and often even leave unfinished portions on my plate. Due to work I do tend to eat out daily with my wife but I don't find her (petite 5' 0" 110 lbs) eating that much less than me.

I have tried Atkins, wasn't able to stick with it. When I went on it hardcore, I found I couldn't run two blocks without feeling like I would fall over from lack of energy. I have tried weight watchers but didn't give it a serious attempt. Was wondering how good the food was on nutrisystem because part of my logic was that if I pay a lot (not too much but enough) I'll have more incentive to follow through with it. But frankly my wife and I eat out quite often and that will make it harder to use the nutrisystem because they will ship me 5 weeks of meals. Interestingly I didn't think it was too much money, they said I'd get 5 full weeks of meals, three a day, for $326.51 which makes the per meal cost $3.11. I know with all the eating out we do it costs me more than this to eat out.

Maybe I'll try Atkins again, just not as hard core, but I'm going to look at a couple of the sites recommended and maybe make some modifications to Atkins to make it more palatable. My biggest problem is my sweet tooth but I'll try to over come that.

Again, Thanks to all for your advice and I'll keep checking back to see if some new advice appears.

25 posted on 08/18/2005 6:33:57 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Dad was my hero

Wondering how things are working for you.


26 posted on 09/14/2005 4:15:06 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu
Well, considering all the advice, I chose to just lower my carb intake and try to keep it healthy (fewer processed foods, lower heavy fats, more chicken and fish and cut out potatoes and sugar). So far I've dropped about 10 to 12 lbs slowly and I've got my running up to where I'm able to cover 5 miles without much difficulty. I'm trying not to let the diet be the focus of everything and if I have a bad day I don't let it ruin my plans to continue in the long run. Does that sound sensible?

Thanks for asking. :)

27 posted on 09/14/2005 10:01:41 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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I'm also looking into it and from a cost point of view it looks to be about what I would spend on groceries anyway. Giver or take $50. Yea they might be cardboard tasting so it would be great to get a sample entree. Being diabetic the low gycimic foods would be helpful. I have been trying to do that myself. Atkins is a little harsh on blood sugar..falls to fast. South Beach seem good.

The Nutisystems advantage seems to be it all there for you..they ship a big supply so you don't run out....Their food does not require refrigeration so it easier to store.

Also with every thing premeasured you get a fixed calorie count. (this is the secret to Jerrod and subways, he ate the same thing nearly everyday and had a mile walk to and from the shop.)

You can go to the store stock up on pre packaged South beach, Lean Cuisine, or Weight Watchers and try that. I find I have to make sure I get to the store on time to keep stocked up. If you can commit to doing that it will work. My trouble is having cravings for carbs in the late afternoon.

Tell your decision...I am on the fence too.
28 posted on 09/14/2005 10:33:39 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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After asking others their opinions, I decided to try it on my own. I've been able to do okay without buying the Nutrisystem foods. I did ckeck it for price and agree that it isn't too much different than what I'd pay for food over that same period. Found it to average around $3 per meal. But, two problems for me. One is that I work near my wife and as a break from the daily work grind I like to lunch with her and that makes lunch a problem unless I want to take the meals with me. Second was that from my discussions with the operator at Nutrisystems I was going to be put on a 1500 calorie a day diet and I felt that might be too harsh and I might be prompted to suplement or just be so tired from lack of calories that I'd lose interest and drop it. One thing I checked was e-bay, they had a bunch of people selling the Nutrisystem foods there some of them with only a couple meals missing. So I decided that they may have lost interest too possibly because it was too severe.

I picked up some of the packaged frozen fish and packaged frozen chicken white meat chicken strips (both without breading) from BJs and lettuce, grape tomatoes, dressing, head lettuce and cottage cheese or crumbled blue cheese and many of my dinners are a mix of these in a salad. I skip any deserts and no snaks, just a small glass of skim milk before bed and I've been doing okay on that.

Tell your decision...I am on the fence too. If you notice the start of the post is older and so what I wrote above is what I decided to do. I'm still on the cheap side so I couldn't part with the couple hundred that the 5 weeks of Nutrisystem cost and I wasn't sure a 1500 cal a day diet would be enough to satisfy me. Good luck on what you decide.

29 posted on 09/14/2005 11:20:21 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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