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10 Days as a Linux User: A GNU Perspective on things
Flexbeta.net ^ | 2005-08-18 | Gsurface

Posted on 08/23/2005 6:43:41 AM PDT by N3WBI3

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To: N3WBI3
Golden Eagle sounds like one of those Union Members that work for GM and drives a Toyota.

He comes to FR and and talks bad about Linux when he knows very well FR runs on Linux. If Linux is so bad why does he come here.

Can you say Hypocrite??
61 posted on 08/23/2005 4:37:48 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: softwarecreator
That's not you specifically, that's the Tarnished Turkey.

Please show me one posting where I ever mentioned Linus's Dad, either in name or by reference. You also are eligible for bonus points if I ever said he's a commie.

62 posted on 08/23/2005 5:54:14 PM PDT by Salo (Those who believe the most in evolution are usually the first to complain about it taking its course)
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To: softwarecreator

I've always said use what works for you. I work in a Netware shop - we're converting over to FreeBSD and linux slowly but surely. I think MS is great in some situations - we have some Windows servers, and they have the best office suite.

The fact that linux is, or can be, free does add to the equation in its favor. If I had the choice between free MS or free linux, MS might win every contest, but if the choice is between free linux and expensive MS, linux wins more often than not.


63 posted on 08/23/2005 5:59:39 PM PDT by Salo (Those who believe the most in evolution are usually the first to complain about it taking its course)
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To: Salo
Oh, okay.  Silly me, I respond to posts that have my name in the "TO:" list.  I'm only kidding though, done that myself way too many times.  I usually realize it 2 seconds after I hit the "POST" button.
64 posted on 08/23/2005 6:00:32 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Salo
Of course.  Thing is, it's a personal choice and you have to pick the one that suits you better.  There are good and bad about both OS's (I eliminate Apple at this time).  I've been heavily into MS for a very long time and recently made a small move into Linux.  I like both, but to me, MS is still the better system.

Luckily for me, MS's cost is not a factor since I have an MSDN subcription.  Even so, I would still pick it over Linux, in most cases, because of ease of use.  Someday this may change, but that day is just not here yet.

65 posted on 08/23/2005 6:07:02 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: N3WBI3; Golden Eagle
Just thought I would be nice and give you a chance to throw out your usual tripe early on this thread... I am obliged to you for your gracious cooperation... thank you

Troll Alert level 5!

N3WBI3, for someone that always accuses other's of being a troll you truly are the black pot.

66 posted on 08/23/2005 6:13:42 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: softwarecreator

I am guessing by your handle that you are a programmer. I am not. I am a network manager. Were I a programmer, I would most likely be as pro-MS as anyone could be: they make great development tools. Being the network manager (and unix sys admin), I look at what does what I need it to do with the least amount of my attention, and for the most part, MS is not as good in those respects, although they have made great strides since the NT4 days.


I have had Netware servers with over 2 years of uptime - it's hard to top that.


67 posted on 08/23/2005 6:15:47 PM PDT by Salo (Those who believe the most in evolution are usually the first to complain about it taking its course)
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To: softwarecreator

Oh, just an FYI, Apple's OSX is a GREAT desktop environment. I have an XP box and an Apple box on my home network and they are both good, but that Apple box is *really* nice.


68 posted on 08/23/2005 6:18:23 PM PDT by Salo (Those who believe the most in evolution are usually the first to complain about it taking its course)
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To: Salo
Were I a programmer, I would most likely be as pro-MS as anyone could be: they make great development tools.

I've developed in pretty much every language there is and used pretty much every tool.  To me, MS studios are the best IDE's available.

MS is not as good in those respects, although they have made great strides since the NT4 days.

I agree, Win2K is probably one of the more stable environments out there, except for maybe Red Hat.

I have had Netware servers with over 2 years of uptime - it's hard to top that.

Haven't used Netware in a long time.  I did use it for about 6 months and you are right, it was stable from what I recall.  The admin we had liked it a lot.

69 posted on 08/23/2005 7:22:43 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Salo
Oh, just an FYI, Apple's OSX is a GREAT desktop environment. I have an XP box and an Apple box on my home network and they are both good, but that Apple box is *really* nice.

My whole problem with Apple is I want to be able to pick & choose my hardware, not be locked into one that may not feel fits my needs.  I have used Apples in the past and found them to be enjoyable.  I used them before they incorporated windows into them, so that tells you how long ago that was.  I think it was an Apple IIG or something like that.

70 posted on 08/23/2005 7:27:42 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: ShadowAce

bttt


71 posted on 08/23/2005 7:29:02 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Salo
I have had Netware servers with over 2 years of uptime - it's hard to top that.

There is a screen-shot on the Net-ware site showing over 6 years of uptime.

72 posted on 08/23/2005 7:57:34 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: N3WBI3
Don't take a knife to a gunfight bump.
73 posted on 08/23/2005 8:28:59 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Like a virgin - touched for the thirty-first time.)
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To: softwarecreator
I agree, but I am talking about those who brag Linux is getting a BIG chunk of the pie.

I'm sorry I thought 24%was a big chunk of the pie... Those are the Linux numbers for servers, which are growing every year. Of course if 24% is not a big chunk that means the 59% MS has is the only big chunk out there.

BTW, that BIG chunk is almost nothing and is even less to crow about when it's free.

Again 24% of the servers out there say you're wrong, and if you're talking about the desktop well Linux was not initially designed or sold for that. The first killer app on Linux was a web server, not an office suite. But its making nice headway and is competing with Apple.

The fact its free is a red herring, its in the server market its done well and in the server market licensing (according to you) is not a consideration..

74 posted on 08/24/2005 4:22:24 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: softwarecreator

No but you buying a really expensiive coat does not mean youll be warmer than somthing I find at the salation army..


75 posted on 08/24/2005 4:23:43 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
This is what I got when I tried to verify your link:

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76 posted on 08/24/2005 4:27:15 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: N3WBI3
Again 24% of the servers out there say you're wrong, and if you're talking about the desktop well Linux was not initially designed or sold for that.

The usual argument, huh?

At no point did I specifically say server, did I?

And I notice when people do the boring "windows sux, Linux is better" argument they never say ONLY windows server, now do they?  No they don't, but the minute you bring up marketshare they pull the server argument.

But its making nice headway and is competing with Apple.

oooooohhhh, competing with Apple!!  That's kind of like sayig UPN is competing with WB in the TV viewership market.

77 posted on 08/24/2005 4:36:57 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: N3WBI3
No but you buying a really expensiive coat does not mean youll be warmer than somthing I find at the salation army...

No, but it'll smell better.

78 posted on 08/24/2005 4:38:05 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: softwarecreator
At no point did I specifically say server, did I?

Of course you did'nt ignoring half the picture actually gave you a point why not just ignore servers. Hell I guess SOLARIS, AIX, et al. are crap because they have even lower desktop penetration than Linux right?

And I notice when people do the boring "windows sux, Linux is better" argument they never say ONLY windows server, now do they?

Youre talking to someone who has said 2kpro is one of the best desktops ever made.. but go ahead keep trying to paint me as an anti ms fanatic...

79 posted on 08/24/2005 4:49:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: softwarecreator

Depends who wearing it...


80 posted on 08/24/2005 4:49:56 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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