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COAST TO COAST -- claim that Katrina was created and driven
COAST TO COAST AM | 8-30-05 | dfu

Posted on 08/30/2005 10:43:41 PM PDT by doug from upland

Oh, my. We have to talk about this. Some meteorolgist is claiming that Katrina was created and driven. He says that the Russians have claimed that they can do this. They also created Ivan. This storm was designed to stike our oil and natural gas facilities.


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: artbell; coasttocoast; conspiracytheories; du; hurricanekatrina; indymedia; katrina; kooktokookam; neworleans; tinfoil; tinfoilalert
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1 posted on 08/30/2005 10:43:42 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Gee maybe the DUmmies are right!

;-)

2 posted on 08/30/2005 10:44:30 PM PDT by My2Cents ("It takes a nation of candyasses to hold this military back.")
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To: doug from upland

More CoastToCoastAM lunacy.

Just damn!


3 posted on 08/30/2005 10:45:29 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: doug from upland

Scalar technology?


4 posted on 08/30/2005 10:45:36 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet.)
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To: All
Scott Stevens' website -- WEATHER WARS

"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

[Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia , Athens , Apr. 28, 1997].

6 posted on 08/30/2005 10:48:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: doug from upland

I believe it. I saw it with my own two eyes while I was remote viewing.


7 posted on 08/30/2005 10:48:25 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: doug from upland
Hmmmmmmm

So the Russians created and guided Katrina and Ivan.

I see, their plan is to wait for the National Hurricane Center to put out the list of storm names and when they see names that are Russian based, or something similar to Russian, then they do their dastardly deed.

Wow, those Ruskies are smart!

8 posted on 08/30/2005 10:48:43 PM PDT by technomage
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9 posted on 08/30/2005 10:48:58 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: doug from upland

If Bush wouldn't have been so hard on Putin, this might not have happened.

:)


10 posted on 08/30/2005 10:49:42 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: doug from upland

This crap isn't funny and the show producers should apologize.


11 posted on 08/30/2005 10:52:02 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: doug from upland

And whats more! Hoagland's on it! Its like, everywhere you turn, when there is a conspiracy, Hoagland is on it!


12 posted on 08/30/2005 10:52:19 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: doug from upland

Cool! Two idiots for the price of one! Now the weather guy is talking to Richard Hoaxland...


13 posted on 08/30/2005 10:52:43 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: doug from upland

I have heard some wild stories, like global warming caused the hurricane, but this I can believe. Those Rooskies are always up to something.


14 posted on 08/30/2005 10:52:48 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: technomage

Uh huh...

These are the same folks that can't feed their people, or keep their Navy afloat, and I'm supposed to believe that they can influence the weather?

Yeah.... RIGHT.


15 posted on 08/30/2005 10:53:13 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Siobhan

If there where such technology....the generator would be located on the west coast of Africa...

Anyone with the time to debunk...might start looking there...

Are there any facilities capable of sustaining large amounts of equipment in that area?

Are there published papers on this tech?

Etc...etc...

Far fetched for sure...but if you wanted a steath weapon against the US economy...a targeted super storm would be it...


16 posted on 08/30/2005 10:53:42 PM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

You can read all about his idea here at Hoaxland's blog!

http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm

Hyperdimensional Physics!


17 posted on 08/30/2005 10:54:48 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: doug from upland

Unless this quote is completely false - obviously there is concern. And no doubt WE are looking at the technology too. I would imagine that the idea of "cloud seeding" to make it rain would seem pretty far-fetched 100 years ago too.

That said - I think the odds that these hurricanes are caused by "somebody" is about 1 goobzillion billion trillion to 1.


18 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:22 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: doug from upland

BBC World was saying it is a direct result of Bush ignorance for Kyoto treaty


19 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:26 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, while it's true that we have free speech in this country, Coast to Coast is a genuine menace sometimes. There are times when I wish we had the system they do in the UK where libel laws are stronger and the government can place limits on the media in the interest of national security.


20 posted on 08/30/2005 10:55:57 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Re C. Sheehan: Not all women who give birth are worthy of being called mothers.)
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To: doug from upland

Oh jeez. Go to sleep!


21 posted on 08/30/2005 10:56:11 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; doug from upland

Ok. I'll give you that. It's more likely that the Russians caused these hurricanes than not signing the Kyoto treaty! LOL


22 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:30 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: doug from upland

Gimme a break! Do you have any idea how much energy would be required to influence large-scale weather phenomena?


23 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:32 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: doug from upland

Entirely plausible, really, when you think about it.

In fact, don't forget for a minute that Bush Sr. and Haliburton stand to profit. :)


24 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:50 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: doug from upland

Ah coast to coast am... with george Nore, before that Art Bell...

now there is the tinfoil hat brigade in full force on that show! :)

Seriously they let some real nut heads on there....


25 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:51 PM PDT by Americanwolf (To all in the States of MS, AL, and LA effect by Hurricane Katrina my heart and prayers to you all!)
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To: doug from upland
Secretary of Defense William Cohen

'Nuff said.

26 posted on 08/30/2005 10:58:58 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Crim
Things are only far fetched until you explore them and discover their veracity or their falsity. It is easy to dismiss an idea and roll out the tin foil in derision. It is harder to look at the idea and work to prove or disprove it.

Such a generator would not need to be in west Africa as much as it would need to be able to focus on western Africa and have the capacity to track. There are a variety of possibilities with that.

27 posted on 08/30/2005 11:01:10 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet.)
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To: tomahawk
This crap isn't funny and the show producers should apologize.

You know, you're right. Lots of people are dead. Many thousands of others have lost everything. There's a time and a place for the kooky conspiracy theories, and this ain't it.

28 posted on 08/30/2005 11:01:48 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: doug from upland
LOL! However, if this was true, then its act of war period. Nevertheless, I do not think that is the case.
29 posted on 08/30/2005 11:03:25 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Crim
...a targeted super storm would be it...

Try that in the plural and then you would be on to something. The purpose of any weapon used against the United States would be to bring our country to its knees.

30 posted on 08/30/2005 11:03:44 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet.)
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To: Simmy2.5

So Hoaxland is seeing faces in the eyes of hurricanes just like he sees faces on Mars? Can't he get a real job?

Actually, I enjoy listening to old Hoax invite himself on the show by phoning in when there's another guest, and George trying to give him the brushoff. The show is like an on-air asylum!


31 posted on 08/30/2005 11:03:54 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: F14 Pilot
BBC World was saying it is a direct result of Bush ignorance for Kyoto treaty

Imagine in such a technologically developed world, we still have dim masses that actually have no capability of simply a gut "smell test" for such a claim, much less any ability to walk to the library or do any kind of critical thinking on the subject.

I don't think we're all that different than the education difference of the rabble and the nobles in Dark Age stories of druids and wizards.

shudder

32 posted on 08/30/2005 11:04:37 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: doug from upland

Coast to Coast is good radio listening to put you to sleep.


33 posted on 08/30/2005 11:05:27 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Siobhan
Things are only far fetched until you explore them and discover their veracity or their falsity.

And then you explore them, and discover that they're still ridiculous.

It is easy to dismiss an idea and roll out the tin foil in derision.

You know, there are many geniuses who were taken for idiots. But there are many, many more idiots who were taken for idiots.

It is harder to look at the idea and work to prove or disprove it.

In this case, it really isn't very hard to disprove. Do you have the remotest idea of how much energy is in a hurricane? Do you think it's possible to control and direct such energy without making any sign of it? Do you believe that technology to do that could be developed and tested, without anybody noticing, without any papers appearing in science journals?

Such a generator would not need to be in west Africa as much as it would need to be able to focus on western Africa and have the capacity to track. There are a variety of possibilities with that.

Really? Go ahead, let's hear them. I'm all ears.

34 posted on 08/30/2005 11:05:50 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
I am Sam Paine, and I once bought one of Hoagland's books.

The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem.

35 posted on 08/30/2005 11:07:07 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
AND Sam Nunn. Sheesh.

On the other hand, I remember skimming a document called "Weather as a Force Multiplier" a while back. Can't
remember much of it though.

36 posted on 08/30/2005 11:07:17 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: doug from upland

What if it wasn't President Bush and his hurricane machine that created Katrina. What if it was (Echo Reverb/on)"The Grays" assisted by the MIB.


37 posted on 08/30/2005 11:08:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: doug from upland

The Gulf is 90 degrees F ! Thats the problem.


38 posted on 08/30/2005 11:08:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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this guy (I think the same one) was on not too long ago and said the same thing then.


39 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:25 PM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: sam_paine

OK, confess, which one? :^)


40 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:58 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Actually, he sees pentagons in the hurricane's eyes (scary part is...NO JOKE!). Remember, its all about his Hyperdimensional Physics!

Have to admit, I know he's a kook. But he is a VERY entertaining kook!


41 posted on 08/30/2005 11:09:59 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: doug from upland

According to the guy who was on last night, who got his psychic powers from a UFO, the whole thing is going to happen again Sept. 26th.


42 posted on 08/30/2005 11:13:32 PM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: doug from upland
Last year, the same meteorologist was on Coast peddling the theory that Florida was hit by hurricanes due to weather manipulation intended to ease Bush's reelection. This year, his theory is weather warfare by the Russians, and Hoagland weighs in that his cherished hyper-dimensional physics is involved. Their evidence, if one can call it that, is supposedly odd cloud formations as shown in satellite photos of the storms. These claims are manifestly ludicrous, but I would feel a lot better if I did not have the dire suspicion that the proponents were not mere con men but believed what they were saying.
43 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:30 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: doug from upland
Either we're doomed or Art Bell is friggin' nuts.

To paraphrase Pogo: "Either way, it's a mighty serious thing."

44 posted on 08/30/2005 11:14:43 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: doug from upland

I "heard" that the Russians also created Hillary Clinton!!! I'm so terrified, I can't sleep or eat! God save us all....and pass me a moose burrito, please. :)


45 posted on 08/30/2005 11:15:30 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: doug from upland
I'm embarrassed to think I am on a website with people who would actually listen to Coast to Coast.
46 posted on 08/30/2005 11:16:48 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Chena

No, Hillary was created in the bowels of hell.


47 posted on 08/30/2005 11:17:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: kublia khan

It's a good show.


48 posted on 08/30/2005 11:18:26 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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To: doug from upland

Not a logical move for Russia if they knew we would/could do the same to them. M.A.D. weather war protocols.


49 posted on 08/30/2005 11:18:43 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: doug from upland
No, Hillary was created in the bowels of hell.

That's what I said. Russia, otherwise known as the "bowels of hell". ;)

50 posted on 08/30/2005 11:19:53 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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