Pot icon Tommy Chong makes movie of his imprisonment

reuters.com ^ | 9 10 05 | Cameron French

[Know your rights]

By what principle does your so-called "conservative ideology" decide which non-rights-violating acts (which drug use is one of) should be punished by government and which should not?

Thinking that one must have unfettered access to mind-numbing drugs to be "free" is stupid. Drugs don't make you free.

Wearing a plaid shirt doesn't make you free, either ... so is it OK for government to ban that too?

[Prime Choice]

Reducto ad absurdum.

Listen, just go back to smoking dope in your parents' basement. You must be better at that 'cause it's obvious you suck at logic and reason.

[Know your rights]

A certain level of civility is maintained by law to maintain something called a civilization.

That vaporous excuse for a principle has no clear boundary, and thus is incompatible with any respect for liberty. DUers would be glad to claim that all their income-redistribution projects are needed to "maintain something called a civilization."

[Know your rights]

in excess? That can be a problem

So you agree that not all drug use, but only excessive drug use, is unconservative.

[A CA Guy]

It has a boundry that is set by the public themselves or by the representatives they voted in to represent them in this Democratic Republic. :-)

There are some changes all the time due to current living conditions.

If you don't like laws, (like I've told you before), go buy your own island and be the King.

[Know your rights]

Why does giving the public conditional access to your property lessen your right to say what's allowed or not allowed on that property? Sounds like socialism to me.

They are operating in the public arena

That doesn't answer my question; it merely rephrases its premise ("giving the public conditional access to your property"). But then, it's clear that you have no honest answers for my questions.

[A CA Guy]

I was saying that I agree with you that excessive alcohol use is an issue for sure, especially if it is all the time and not once by accident.

Prescription drugs or over the counter stuff used as directed are OK with me. Sometimes we later learn of adverse side effects and must make adjustments or pull some of it from the market.

[escapefromboston]

Drinking Jack Daniels can put you in a coma?

[Know your rights]

Reducto ad absurdum.

A perfectly valid logical technique. If anyone told you otherwise, they lied.

[escapefromboston]

So he really isn't a hypocrite then? You said he was a hypocrite which would mean he smocked pot but told everyone else how bad it was.

[MRMEAN]

I don't know, but no conservative looks to drug themselves recreationally.

OK this has to be the FR "Idiot Post of the Day." I suppose you don't consider nicotine a drug, or tobacco users as "recreational" users? And alcohol is not a "drug?" I've known plenty of conservative smokers, and have gone out drinking with many conseratives, it was "recreational." In fact I've known pot-smoking conservatives, the vice-chairman of my college YAF chapter was for instance a pot-smoker, and he wasn't a "liberal-tarian," he was a Trad, and Lutheran to boot. (And he was no burn-out, besides being an active YAFfer, he got "A"s in pharmacy.) Oh, and I guess you don't consider Rush a conservative either? Hmmmm?

[A CA Guy]

I said, "They are operating in the public arena and this is beyond the issue of living a private life. The public has the right to a certain level of civility in their civilization."

What were you referring to in my #100?

[Know your rights]

just go back to smoking dope in your parents' basement. [...] you suck at logic and reason.

LOL! I love the irony of a blatant ad hominem followed by a boast of superior logic.

[Know your rights]

It has a boundry that is set by the public themselves

That's no boundary at all, it's what the Founders called tyranny of the majority.

[Know your rights]

excessive alcohol use is an issue for sure

So should it be against the law to be drunk in one's own home with no minor children present? And should non-excessive use of other drugs be legal? Or are you just blowing more smoke?

[Know your rights]

Drinking Jack Daniels can put you in a coma?

If you drink enough, you bet. Did you not know that?

[Prime Choice]

I love the irony of a blatant ad hominem followed by a boast of superior logic.

I'm sure you do, considering that you use that very approach often enough. I figured it was time to give you a dose of your own rank medicine.

[Prime Choice]

ROTFLOL! Check out the keywords on this thread.

Small wonder this silliness wound up in General Chat. *snicker*

[Know your rights]

What were you referring to in my #100?

Your question makes no sense.

[escapefromboston]

Well thats stretching it, isn't it? Jack Daniels could kill you if someone dropped a bottle of it out their window and it smashed on your head.