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President Boren Cautions Against Rush to Judgment (re: OU bomber)
via e-mail | 6 Oct. 2005 | David L. Boren

Posted on 10/06/2005 3:57:55 PM PDT by Tuba-Dude

Dear OU Students, Faculty, and Staff,

I want to thank you again for your responsible and constructive reaction to the tragic event which occurred last Saturday evening. I appreciate the concern which many of you have expressed for the family and friends of the deceased.

Most of the news media, including our own OU Daily, and most citizens have responded very responsibly. Unfortunately, there are always a few who do not. Among the core beliefs which define us as Americans and which define us as members of the OU family from all backgrounds is a respect for others. We believe that we should not judge others or jump to conclusions about others on the basis of color, race, gender, economic status, or freely exercised religious beliefs. To rush to judge others or make assumptions about them on that basis is nothing short of prejudice. It has no place in America and it certainly has no place at the University of Oklahoma.

Unfortunately, we have seen examples of a rush to react in a manner not in keeping with our values in recent history. A reading of some media reports and comments from individuals made at the time of the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City is enlightening. Some quickly rushed to the conclusion that the bomber must have been a Middle Eastern terrorist. There were video shots of international students on Oklahoma campuses shown on news broadcasts as this speculation was reported. As we all now know, the person responsible was not someone from the Middle East but was Timothy McVeigh and at least one other American who assisted him. We can only hope that all of us, including some media outlets, would have learned from that recent rush to incorrect conclusions.

I have been assured that law enforcement officials including federal officers have found no evidence of a conspiracy involving others which creates an ongoing threat to our OU community. They have kept me informed of the steps being taken in their investigation. You can be assured that if I receive any information to the contrary, I will immediately inform you and take steps to protect our community.

In fact, national law enforcement statistics compiled confirm that we have a low per capita crime rate. OU has long been dedicated to the safety of our students.

Thank you again for your help and understanding. Thank you for reaching out to the members of our OU family who have come from nations all over the world to let them know that they are valued and respected on this campus.

Rushing to judgments on the basis of race, religion, gender, or ethnicity, is not the OU or American way.

Sincerely,

David L. Boren OU President


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boren; davidboren; hinrichs; normanbombing; oklahoma; ou; oubombing; sooners; suicidebomber
I received this in my e-mail today; just figured I'd pass it along to others on the board.
1 posted on 10/06/2005 3:58:01 PM PDT by Tuba-Dude
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To: Tuba-Dude

Rush to judgment? WTF? This happened five nights ago. Not earlier today or yesterday.


2 posted on 10/06/2005 4:00:34 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Tuba-Dude

For a university president he sure doesn't seem to have much respect for the intelligence of the students or the public.


3 posted on 10/06/2005 4:03:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Tuba-Dude

yup, just Tim McVeigh and one other American, Terry Nichols... and don't go bringing up all that time he spent in the Phillipeans with Abu Saayef, you wingnuts.  And that whole Jayna Davis thing, well that's now been totaly disproven... or not... it doesn't matter, we're not talking about it anymore, that's final.

And so what if the guy was a member of the same mosque as Zach Mousai, that doesn't mean anything.  Just one disturbed individual, acting alone, not in concert with his Pakistani room mate with the ticket to Algeria.  What, you're going to try to say this has something to do with islam?  If college has taught us anything, it's that dusky hued people from America hating nations are our greatest strength. 

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

4 posted on 10/06/2005 4:05:41 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle
It looks like the locals who are getting bits and pieces of information on what nearly happened in Norman, are getting PO'ed and are not looking kindly on ME types in their area.

Boren is trying to do his usual cover up, which began right after the incident.

What if the rest of the country had been privilege to the facts that the locals, to a degree, and even the facts that we FReepers have been able to dig up?

It would not be pretty. Nor should it be.
5 posted on 10/06/2005 4:23:13 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex

What if the rest of the country had been privilege to the facts that the locals, to a degree, and even the facts that we FReepers have been able to dig up?

It's just STUNNING how little attention this is getting.  I first heard some details Saturday night.  Sunday I looked around and actually decided it must be a hoax due to the lack of coverage.  Thanks to some posts here, I've seen the local news coverage and know most of the details.

However, in just talking with the folks around the office here (in Philadelphia), even the better informed of them haven't heard about this at all!  I send links to the local news, because that's about as convincing that it actually occurred as you'll find, and they're just amazed at the lack of coverage, or outright cover up.

No rational person could dismiss this as just a local story.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

6 posted on 10/06/2005 4:29:04 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Tuba-Dude
Thanks to FReeper cripplecreek for the ping.

David Boren's Politically Correct Email.....LOL. "Don't rush to judgement," says Boren. Remember, folks.....Boren was pushing the "depressed student who committed suicide with a bomb" theory till the night of 10/04/05. He has since changed this story to "lone suicide bomber." Let us see where he goes next with his story....

BTW, here is an updated list-o-links (update #3) for members of this ping list. Main thread with tons of useful info and breaking news from day one, Oct. 01
Joel jihad identification thread, Oct. 02
Bomb material found thread, Oct. 02
Explosive stash found thread, Oct. 03
Joel Jihad tries to buy Ammonium Nitrate thread, Oct. 04
OK City Channel 9 story thread, Oct. 04
Malkin blog posts thread, Oct. 04
Sources ID TATP thread, Oct. 04
Roomie identified thread, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 1, Oct. 05
More on the roomie thread 2, Oct. 05
Boren bio, Oct. 05
DougFromUpland interview with Jayna Davis thread, Oct. 05
Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found, Oct. 05. Must-read thread
Officer had clue before OU blast; Oct. 06
Jayna Davis’ radio schedule…check it out; Oct. 06
Some consolidated info from older FR threads; pingees to this list may have received most of them so far. Oct. 06
7 posted on 10/06/2005 4:52:28 PM PDT by indcons (Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; PhiKapMom

Nothing to see here, nothing at all, just move on...

GRRRRRR...


8 posted on 10/06/2005 4:53:32 PM PDT by CedarDave (OU Bombing -- now knowing more about what we didn't know)
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To: Tuba-Dude

Un-freaking believable crap.

I spit on it.


9 posted on 10/06/2005 4:57:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Tuba-Dude

Boren certainly rushed to the judgement that this incident was merely an unusual method suicide but nothing more.


10 posted on 10/06/2005 5:00:10 PM PDT by Fog Nozzle
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To: Cindy; MamaDearest; LucyT; nw_arizona_granny; Rushmore Rocks; KylaStarr

ping


11 posted on 10/06/2005 5:01:29 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (That Dale Jr., he's a heckuva drafter," He's not the mailman's kid that's for sure"!!)
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To: Tuba-Dude

Stupid PC shite!!


12 posted on 10/06/2005 5:03:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: Owl_Eagle

>>If college has taught us anything, it's that dusky hued people from America hating nations are our greatest strength.  <<

LOL


13 posted on 10/06/2005 5:21:23 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Oooo! Oooo! Pick me!)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.

David Boren, OU president:

A reading of some media reports and comments from individuals made at the time of the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City is enlightening. Some quickly rushed to the conclusion that the bomber must have been a Middle Eastern terrorist. There were video shots of international students on Oklahoma campuses shown on news broadcasts as this speculation was reported. As we all now know, the person responsible was not someone from the Middle East but was Timothy McVeigh and at least one other American who assisted him. We can only hope that all of us, including some media outlets, would have learned from that recent rush to incorrect conclusions.

Just thought I'd let you know....lol

14 posted on 10/06/2005 5:22:09 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Mark Davis, a local and national talk show host at WBAP in Fort Worth, Texas, interviewed Jihad Joey's father this morning.

I was working so I didn't hear but bits and pieces of the interview.

What I did hear was a small blurb where he was praising his son and denying any involvement with Muslim terrorists.

He did mention that he sought out and seeked praise all through his life. Looking for kind comments from his teachers, etc, about what a good kid he was, what a great job he was doing.

It sounded to me that this kid was seeking for praise for anything he did, looking for a place to belong, and a great canidate for being used.

It appears to me that the Jihadists found a person that they could and did use.

When he was denied admission three times to the stadium with his back path of death he may well have sat on that bench and did himself in rather than fail on his mission and not receive the praise he so craved.

I can think of no other reason rather than an accident, a timer that he couldn't control, or a preset time for a cell phone to detonate the bomb.

The fact that he had additional explosives in his apartment would make me think that he planned on living on to do this again.

I don't know if you get Mark Davis' national show or not but you can get him at www.wbap.com, on streaming audio, his show comes on at 9 AM central.

If any other FReepers heard all of the interview, please chime in.
15 posted on 10/06/2005 5:28:33 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: Tuba-Dude

''Rushing to judgments on the basis of race, religion, gender, or ethnicity, is not the OU or American way. ''

But MEDIA BLACKOUTS are the American way


16 posted on 10/06/2005 5:28:58 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Tell 'em lies and feed 'em candy.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I do believe Boren has 'ostrich syndrome'.

Has he read ANYTHING relating to the Murrah Building bombing? Middle Eastern types were reported as involved because it was true.


17 posted on 10/06/2005 5:44:44 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks

What happened to my post? It was rather astute.

Don't have time to repost.


18 posted on 10/06/2005 5:46:19 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Owl_Eagle

Owl,

This thread needs some screen time here on FR. I don't know how to ask the Moderator to do this? Do you, can you?


19 posted on 10/06/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: Tuba-Dude

20 posted on 10/06/2005 5:46:58 PM PDT by agooga (We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

I guess he's promoting the alternate, official version of reality that your average American TV addict is comfortable with.


21 posted on 10/06/2005 5:48:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Tuba-Dude
Boren, referring to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City --"Some quickly rushed to the conclusion that the bomber must have been a Middle Eastern terrorist"

If my memory serves me correctly -- the very first 'blaming' occured by the now impeached clinton blaming Rush Limbaugh for the bombing.

The old days of news gathering and reporting are over - they have rathergated themselves!!!!

22 posted on 10/06/2005 5:49:24 PM PDT by malia
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To: agooga

LOL!! My ten year old son gets it!!

hehe


23 posted on 10/06/2005 5:49:43 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: CedarDave

Bunch of Bravo Sierra but I have come to expect it in recent days.


24 posted on 10/06/2005 5:53:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Owl_Eagle

Owl,

This thread needs some screen time here on FR. I don't know how to ask the Moderator to do this? Do you, can you?


25 posted on 10/06/2005 5:58:46 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the *ping*. This is important. More people need to be informed about this.


26 posted on 10/06/2005 6:28:32 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: tall_tex

I heard most of the Mark Davis interview with the father. I remember the father also trying to make sure we understood that his son didn't really know the Paki roomate..It was just a rooming for financial convenience. There was more..but can't recall now.


27 posted on 10/06/2005 7:29:47 PM PDT by Chani (If it isn't in Texas, you probably don't need it.)
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To: Tuba-Dude

Yeah, but someone should tell President Boren that this kid tried to bring a bomb into his football game. And that, by all appearances, the kid was a jihadi wannabe.


28 posted on 10/06/2005 8:31:02 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 10/06/2005 8:51:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: little jeremiah
Un-freaking believable crap.

I spit on it.

I s*it on it. What a joke. Does he even realize how pathetic this letter is? Who's kidding whom?

30 posted on 10/07/2005 12:40:08 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: laz

Maybe someone is blackmailing him. The letter reeks with pathetic weakness.


31 posted on 10/07/2005 12:53:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: ovrtaxt; malia
Boren, referring to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City --"Some quickly rushed to the conclusion that the bomber must have been a Middle Eastern terrorist" If my memory serves me correctly -- the very first 'blaming' occured by the now impeached clinton blaming Rush Limbaugh for the bombing. The old days of news gathering and reporting are over - they have rathergated themselves...

"Rush" to judgement?

That's rich... ironic, bitterly so... didn't "Rush" and "hate radio" get smeared for the original OKC bombing?

Maybe this overeducated fool should read these:

 The University of Oklahoma Bomber- Link Roundup

32 posted on 10/07/2005 1:46:48 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: little jeremiah
Maybe someone is blackmailing him. The letter reeks with pathetic weakness.

I think somebody is calling the shots, and it's probably Homeland Security or the FBI. Boren is just playing the tune that's called.

33 posted on 10/07/2005 2:38:22 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Boren is just playing the tune that's called.

Maybe so, but he seems to be going out of his way to look pathetic and foolish.

34 posted on 10/07/2005 4:25:56 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: laz

Oh, absolutely- I'm not defending the putz! lol


35 posted on 10/07/2005 5:26:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: little jeremiah; PhiKapMom

That's an interesting notion.


36 posted on 10/07/2005 5:28:06 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Tuba-Dude

"REMAIN CALM...ALL IS WELL!"

37 posted on 10/07/2005 5:36:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: ovrtaxt
My "PC B.S. Meter PEGGED on this sentence alone...

Among the core beliefs which define us as Americans and which define us as members of the OU family from all backgrounds is a respect for others.

My auto-translator responded with this translation...

"It is probable that there is some connection to Middle-Easterners and terorism, as well as the OKC Bombing before, as well as the Mosque in Norman, but it would be impolite to even LOOK into the possibilities! Just go about your business sheeple, and ignore the Terrorists in our midst, even though New York City is on alert for the EXACT SAME thing happening there!"

38 posted on 10/07/2005 6:39:27 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Tuba-Dude
In fact, national law enforcement statistics compiled confirm that we have a low per capita crime rate.

Well ain't that just dandy. Not too many purse snatchings in Norman OK, so if anyone needed further proof, there you have it. So one nutjob tried to blow hisself up - what's the big deal?

39 posted on 10/07/2005 6:46:27 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: little jeremiah

WTC 1 bombing, Sudan, Kobar Tower, USS Cole, 9/11, Shoe bomber, DC sniper, Madrid, London, Israel,etc etc etc all those events down the memory hole.


40 posted on 10/07/2005 7:20:56 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: jdm
As we all now know, the person responsible was not someone from the Middle East but was Timothy McVeigh and at least one other American who assisted him.

Remember the rush to judgment in the DC sniper case, where they profiled "angry white males"? Missed the actual assassins at police roadblocks because they didn't fit the media template?
41 posted on 10/07/2005 7:23:03 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak

Keep people occupied with microbrews, street drugs/Prozac/Wellbutrin etc, and satellite TV, internet porn - they won't notice a thing.

AKA "bread and circuses".


42 posted on 10/07/2005 9:51:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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